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Rishi Sunak’s government reportedly ‘considering Swiss-style relationship with EU’

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According to the Independent, senior figures in Rishi Sunak’s government are reportedly planning to move Britain into a Swiss-style relationship with the European Union.
Chancellor Jeremy Hunt signalled last week that Mr Sunak’s administration intends to break ranks with Boris Johnson’s approach by removing the majority of trade barriers with the bloc.

What do my British friends think: is that a step forward in the right direction? Or is it the end of Britishness as we know it? Looking forward to your votes. 🌷
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
I thought that Brexit was the most ridiculous thing we've decided upon as a nation and that most of it was based on people believing what turns out were politicians' slogans not facts. Now that we're seeing the economy respond in the way it was predicted to, we're seeing an end to the "we're better out than in, even with no deal" bullshit that the government was peddling at the time. The current government is still the same party that was voted in years ago BTW, no matter how many musical chairs they play over who's PM, Chancellor, Home Secretary etc etc. Bunch of nutters.
@wonkywinky They're a bunch of power-hungry dictators in Brussels.
Carissimi · F
@PhilDeep Unfortunately, it’s the likes of you that will make sure Britain dies as a sovereign nation, to become dominated and ruled by unelected tyrants in Brussels. You must really hate your country, if you are actually British.
wonkywinky · 51-55, M
@Carissimi please explain how any of that might happen?brussels will never have any say in my life.better to die on your feet than on your knees anyway.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
The barriers are those imposed by the EU, not Britain, and we cannot simply remove them.

The EU works as a single bloc with ease of movement across borders within itself, but not externally. It also has a policy called au communitaire, or similar, by which once a country becomes a "members" it is regarded as that permanently, with its own economic and legal systems subordinate to the EU.

This is one of the two main reasons it played so rough over the UK leaving, which it chose to do albeit by a very narrow majority.

Its other reason, and one reason Britons who voted to leave did so, is the loss of income. For the UK was one of four nett contributors to the EU - God knows where its money goes because it will not allow proper financial scrutiny and acts very harshly against auditors who try to investigate - along with Germany, France and Italy.

Now, it's all very well saying a nation can leave (if allowed by Brussels) but if it wishes to continue trading with the bloc it still has to follow many of the literally tens of thousands of regulations the Commission invents and the European "Parliament" nods through. A parliament in name only, although of elected politicians.

How many tens? No-one really knows but some estimates put it as high as ten, i.e,. 10 000 rules. The majority apply to specific trades and services which is why most of us know little or nothing of them. To be fair some are EU interpretations of genuinely world-wide agreements and laws by bodies like MARPOL, the UN and ISO. Others may though be at the behest of large commercial interests.


At the height of the debate some pro-EU politicians cried they wanted Britain to be at the "epicentre" of the EU. Oh the irony: they really meant "centre" but I fear their wish has unwittingly come about by the real definition of a geological term they just did not understand!
Rishi has the potential to be a truly great PM !!!!! The British are so lucky to have him!!!

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@wonkywinky Americans didn't vote for George Washington, our first president. But he was one of the greats. 🇬🇧
wonkywinky · 51-55, M
@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays I dont get that.
What IM saying,is that if Sunak had run for PM in 2019,instead of Boris,i doubt many would have voted for him.Certainly the tories might not have done so well in the "red wall" seats of the north.Where next election,they now already face wipeout.
@wonkywinky That's the system. You can't buck the system. What happened with Rishi is what would happen in the circumstances. It's the system. In any event, he seems like a good chappy.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
My oh my do you have a troll! 😅

I don't believe bottle of excellent Amarone will be enough and quite possibly make it worse. 😞
helenS · 36-40, F
@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays I don't make assumptions, especially not when it's about men. Should we ever meet I'm going to offer you a glass of my favorite wine. 🌷
@helenS As long as it's white. No red.

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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays Since he going for the sweet white, especially the Washington Riesling which is quite reasonably affordable, you should shock him with another German favorite which is more affordable in Iowa called Piestengel.

It's actually not a grape at all. Iowa Piestengel is a real affordable treat though. Plus you don't have to pay the import taxes for the more tart Riesling or Piestengel from Germany.

Few in the USA have ever heard of Piestengel much less tried it. I'm one of the few! To the best of my knowledge it's only made in one community on the eastern side of Iowa. Of course it's a German community.

At all cost stay away from the California Riesling. Yes it's not as sweet and far cheaper, yet it's atrocious. 😖
Carissimi · F
It’s outrageous that he’s reversing Brexit. He’s violating the will of the people, and their vote, making a unilateral decision, like a dictator. It has to be illegal, especially for an unelected politician to reverse a vote of the majority. He is committing treason against the people in my opinion.
tallpowerhouseblonde · 36-40, F
@Carissimi He is not doing this the report in the independent was wrong.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
Rejoining the single market would fix a lot of the issues we currently have, difficulty for smes to export, lack of workforce etc

However free movement won't be accepted by the majority racist UK populous.

Maybe in a decade or two but not for a while. And the Tory party will fracture again if that is in the manifesto the right wing won't accept it.
tallpowerhouseblonde · 36-40, F
The independent had it wrong.Rishi Sunak has said it is not true.The video of this is on YouTube and here it is.
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tallpowerhouseblonde · 36-40, F
@helenS I hadn't when you asked,kind of missed that so I just voted now.
helenS · 36-40, F
@tallpowerhouseblonde
Swiss-style surrender 12
Rule Britannia 8
Shut up b*tch 0
tallpowerhouseblonde · 36-40, F
@helenS I looked at the totals when I voted.
gol979 · 41-45, M
Doesnt matter peoples opinions on the EU. Britain voted to leave and in a democracy surely that should be facilitated as the "will of the people"?

Im all for getting out of the EU. Any devolution of power is a good thing imo.

Also, i think "democracy" is an illusion and brexit is just another example.
Convivial · 26-30, F
Let's face it, brexit is a disaster
helenS · 36-40, F
@Convivial He most likely said that in July 1945 😏
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Convivial So is the EU. A basically sensible idea gone hopelessly wrong.

It is not really surprising it is now in a corruption pickle, given its decades of encouraging massive lobbying, and banning its own accountants from investigating why its books rarely if ever balance.

All that was ever needed was a set of clear, straightforward treaties covering trade, diplomatic, financial, legal & security, and travel, co-operation; between a set of friendly but independent nations.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@ArishMell i can't argue with that... It's a clear and concise precis
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
It would certainly be a positive step forward. However I am not confident that the EU woukd automatically support such an application, especially while the Northern Ireland protocol remains unsolved.
helenS · 36-40, F
@SunshineGirl Yes and we are not happy about our relations to Switzerland, with thousands of individual contracts.
wonkywinky · 51-55, M
No way.We voted leave,NOT keep one foot in the door,kow towing to the damn EU,a.k.a the 4th Reich.
Its w should have gone for total break,no deal,no "swiss style relationship".
This will do even MORE damage to the stupid tories.
Well,if we had another vote we'd rejoin the EU...
Sounds like a good idea.
Sharon · F
@TheSirfurryanimalWales Do you think they'd let us? We definitely wouldn't get the type of advantageous deal we had before.
@Sharon that would be the question.
helenS · 36-40, F
@TheSirfurryanimalWales You'd be more than welcome on our common mothership! 🇪🇺
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
Why is this posted in Naturism and if Nudism? I was very confused when all the Suggested posts were about that!
wonkywinky · 51-55, M
As a British person,it actually sickens me,that we have a large number of people living here who would hand over our way of life to foreign rule.
Over the last 1000 years,Britain has remained unconquered since 1066.
Many have tried to subsume us,Napoleon,Hitler,the Kaiser,many others,yet we have resisted all attempts.Now we have British people who want to be "European".Im all for good relations and trade,but NO interference.
wonkywinky · 51-55, M
In UK Brexit was very divisive,and on both sides there are very strong opposing feelings.
I voted to leave,and leave won the vote.
If however there was a desire to rejoin within the country,and another vote was held,i would respect the vote,if rejoin was the result.
But what we will not sit still for,is the UK Govt leading us by the nose,through the back door back into the EU,without a vote..Nice try Hunt the *unt.
Its basically like being in the union
helenS · 36-40, F
@PepsiColaP ... but without any influence on European legislation.
Convivial · 26-30, F
The brexit your having when you're not having a brexit ....
Sharon · F
Not much chance the EU would accept that type of deal with the UK. Even if it did, the UK Government wouldn't accept the conditions Switzerland has such as joining the Schengen zone. Even if the EU were to accept the UK rejoining, which is unlikely, the UK would never get the type of advantageous deal it had before.
helenS · 36-40, F
@Sharon Yes that's certainly true, as a member the UK would be a country just like any other.
wonkywinky · 51-55, M
I see it this way.
Respect democracy,regardless of your views.The vote was to leave.
No stay in,or keep a foot in the door.
You cannot hold a plebiscite,like Brexit,then a few years on,decide ,oh well ,maybe it was a mistake,without a similar vote.
wonkywinky · 51-55, M
Jeremy Hunt-Rishi Sunak.
At least Hunt came out as a remainer,Sunak sat on the fence until he sensed which way the wind was blowing.
Sharon · F
It's a good idea to try but I doubt the EU will agree to it.
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SW-User
The health minister denied it this morning so I guess we'll have to see if it transpires.
helenS · 36-40, F
@SW-User If they have to deny those reports they are most likely true. They wouldn't deny any nonsense.
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