Where can you go if existing on public property is illegal?

If you're homeless in America long enough that you'd die without sleeping then you aren't really trying and if you aren't really trying then you don't deserve what everyone else works for. See because without the contributions of everyone else if you fell asleep out in the open a bear or a wolf or a lion would eat you. Otherwise you'd have to build your own shelter and protect it yourself. You are only safe because you are taking from others and that is really what is illegal here, being a leech. When you don't contribute it is not fair to expect others to hold you up. You want to exist, you can, but you have to leave society and do everything for yourself because that is the same rule everyone else abides by just without the agreed upon teamwork.

I used to think like you until I realized that. Freedom from society is simple, you just wander off into the wild. What's the worst that happens? A ranger comes and tells you to move it along or the cops pick you up and let you sleep inside for a night. These are excuses because it's hard out there alone and few people really want to be that much of a master to their fate. All the things you think are restrictions placed by other people are really the restrictions of the universe itself. Water isn't guaranteed in the wild, food isn't either. If the homeless truly want to exist then they will without help, nobody is actually stopping them.

In the olden days, "homeless", or, as they used to be known..."bums" or "indigents" hid while they were sleeping. Their aim, in staying hidden, was to stay out of jail. In the distant past, no "homeless" were allowed to sleep in public places because they might urinate, defecate, beg, or lie there on the street or in the gutter with their liquor bottles in a drunken stupor, offending the eyesight of all who passed.

All that being said, I do believe one would have to be blind not to understand that there are thousands and thousands more homeless people today than there EVER were in the distant past.
If homeless people were fleas on a dog, you could very well say that the dog is now so completely infested that his life and health are in danger from them.

As far as the SUPREME court is concerned, these people were selected by Congress through an exhaustive examination of their qualifications. In other words, these judges are the BEST in the United States. They are SUPREMELY qualified to examine the law and the Constitution and SUPREMELY qualified to judge.

And in fact, if you are familiar with their ruling, they only said that CITIES may now, themselves, decide whether or not to allow the homeless to sleep on their streets. They may, in fact, decide to allow it. The ruling simply gives some cities the right NOT to allow it. Once again, giving the choice back to the people.

These people don't think like that. They just don't want the homeless in their own backyard. They justify it in that the homeless can just leave their city. They don't care that it's a problem for another city if they do or even that the homeless would be driven out of all cities if everyone took the same stance they do.

This isn't a problem of not thinking it through. This is a problem of not caring.

I fail to understand how one can fine a homeless person who barely has any money. Not that I'd be able to do this but I want to fine those judges who probably has the most money anyways. I think it's a great idea, all the rich people have the most money and it's about time they paid their dues.

Then it's up to the homed population to go out there and hold a "Sleep in" in support of these people.

You're only a bad month away from being homeless yourself and protests like this are the only way to make them see that criminalising these acts does nothing to solve the underlying problems.

When i was homeless, i know some spots. There's a railroad in my city, we aint allowed to go there but theres many entrances and i once lived there inside a tent and everything was fine.

If u can't afford the rent u sure can't afford a house. So I would put my money into buying a van then getting out of town

Ah, my 20s, when everything was black or white. I miss those days.

Of course, homelessness is a big problem everywhere, and I doubt that anyone would choose for people to suffer. But the rich say "Not in my backyard" and...so does everyone else. No one wants their prop values to go down.

Plus, it's not as if all homeless are just victims of bad luck. Some need serious, bigtime mental help. That will not be made available to them, sadly. It's barely available to anyone. Some are a danger to themselves and others.

Best we can do at this point is to give to charities(as I have and do), give to food banks, too. Volunteer if you can.

No easy solution to this.

Not an endorsement of the SCOTUS decision, but cities need to be able to regulate where the homeless should go, so they former can have options that improve the latter safety/health/improvement, while alleviating public concerns.

I suppose they could start taking care of themselves and get their own housing. A wise man once asked "Are you stuck or do you want to be there". The many street people are like the fellow turning all red faced and grunting as he leaned against the lamp post. A passing do-gooder noticed and asked if anything was wrong. The red faced man said "I just crapped my pants" The do-gooder immediately said well lets get you all cleaned up then. The red faced man replied "Wait a minute I'm not done yet".

In AZ, they are allowed to sleep in the park during park hours. It's a public space, they can't be forced to leave.

They can go to a shelter

Who is then?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/06/28/supreme-court-decision-bans-homeless-encampments/73677194007/

agree, levying fines and jail on homeless is a waste of law enforcement time and resources

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-175_19m2.pdf

also agree, enforcing a ban on camping on public property doesn't violate our eighth amendment rights

tbh, the National Alliance to End Homelessness has a very good point, but they are getting very bad council. they need to find better more capable lawyers who can make solid arguments that the courts will agree with