Where can you go if existing on public property is illegal?

If you're homeless in America long enough that you'd die without sleeping then you aren't really trying and if you aren't really trying then you don't deserve what everyone else works for. See because without the contributions of everyone else if you fell asleep out in the open a bear or a wolf or a lion would eat you. Otherwise you'd have to build your own shelter and protect it yourself. You are only safe because you are taking from others and that is really what is illegal here, being a leech. When you don't contribute it is not fair to expect others to hold you up. You want to exist, you can, but you have to leave society and do everything for yourself because that is the same rule everyone else abides by just without the agreed upon teamwork.

I used to think like you until I realized that. Freedom from society is simple, you just wander off into the wild. What's the worst that happens? A ranger comes and tells you to move it along or the cops pick you up and let you sleep inside for a night. These are excuses because it's hard out there alone and few people really want to be that much of a master to their fate. All the things you think are restrictions placed by other people are really the restrictions of the universe itself. Water isn't guaranteed in the wild, food isn't either. If the homeless truly want to exist then they will without help, nobody is actually stopping them.

These people don't think like that. They just don't want the homeless in their own backyard. They justify it in that the homeless can just leave their city. They don't care that it's a problem for another city if they do or even that the homeless would be driven out of all cities if everyone took the same stance they do.

This isn't a problem of not thinking it through. This is a problem of not caring.

I fail to understand how one can fine a homeless person who barely has any money. Not that I'd be able to do this but I want to fine those judges who probably has the most money anyways. I think it's a great idea, all the rich people have the most money and it's about time they paid their dues.

In AZ, they are allowed to sleep in the park during park hours. It's a public space, they can't be forced to leave.

Not an endorsement of the SCOTUS decision, but cities need to be able to regulate where the homeless should go, so they former can have options that improve the latter safety/health/improvement, while alleviating public concerns.

I suppose they could start taking care of themselves and get their own housing. A wise man once asked "Are you stuck or do you want to be there". The many street people are like the fellow turning all red faced and grunting as he leaned against the lamp post. A passing do-gooder noticed and asked if anything was wrong. The red faced man said "I just crapped my pants" The do-gooder immediately said well lets get you all cleaned up then. The red faced man replied "Wait a minute I'm not done yet".

When i was homeless, i know some spots. There's a railroad in my city, we aint allowed to go there but theres many entrances and i once lived there inside a tent and everything was fine.

Ah, my 20s, when everything was black or white. I miss those days.

Of course, homelessness is a big problem everywhere, and I doubt that anyone would choose for people to suffer. But the rich say "Not in my backyard" and...so does everyone else. No one wants their prop values to go down.

Plus, it's not as if all homeless are just victims of bad luck. Some need serious, bigtime mental help. That will not be made available to them, sadly. It's barely available to anyone. Some are a danger to themselves and others.

Best we can do at this point is to give to charities(as I have and do), give to food banks, too. Volunteer if you can.

No easy solution to this.

They can go to a shelter

Who is then?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/06/28/supreme-court-decision-bans-homeless-encampments/73677194007/

agree, levying fines and jail on homeless is a waste of law enforcement time and resources

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-175_19m2.pdf

also agree, enforcing a ban on camping on public property doesn't violate our eighth amendment rights

tbh, the National Alliance to End Homelessness has a very good point, but they are getting very bad council. they need to find better more capable lawyers who can make solid arguments that the courts will agree with