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UK to Fine £200 for not wearing a mask

In shops and public transport, from Tuesday. Following in the steps of tyrannical Australia.
tallpowerhouseblonde · 31-35, F
Good.Anyone stupid enough not to wear a mask deserves a fine as a minimum.They should get banned from the premises where they broke the law too.
tallpowerhouseblonde · 31-35, F
@RadiantRuby There are lots of youtube uploads showing what happened when maskless morons try to flout the law.Instant karma.Some clowns think it is fine to risk other people's lives.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
First, comrade, it’s not a law. It’s a decree from the Prime Minister, which I suspect is unlawful, but we’ll see. I see you respect tyranny and hate liberty. @tallpowerhouseblonde
tallpowerhouseblonde · 31-35, F
@Carissimi From a democratically elected Prime Minister.It will be exactly the same as previously.Wear a mask or face consequences.You can remember all the way back to the previous lockdown right?Or is that too much for you?
Tyranny has nothing to do with this.I want my loved ones and myself to keep our lives not die through stupidity.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
That a fixed penalty or maximum?

Makes no odds to me because I've continued wearing masks in buses and shops anyway - as have many people; and no I do not regard it as "tyrannical", any more than I regard the laws on food-safety imposed on shops and cafes as "tyrannical".
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@ArishMell You must as well say fining people for not wearing seat-belts is tyranny.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Wol62 :-) Some people did say things like that, when it was first introduced!
Wol62 · 51-55, M
Great. I support that move.
SW-User
@Carissimi Hitler didn't do it all by himself. no one can do all of that alone.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
Of course. Biden didn’t do this all by himself either. @SW-User
romper69 · 51-55, M
@SW-User Unlike most countries there is no "codified" constitution in the UK. It consists of various laws and act of Parliament voted on democratically. It cannot be compared to constitutions in other countries - it constantly develops over time and is not bound by the decisions of past generations
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
One thing I will say is I can't agree with the term "tyranny". In a society one's rights end where anothers begin and people have the right to be safe in that regard, financially also as covid financially crippled me for a month.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Carissimi

[quote]This virus is not Ebola or Smallpox.[/quote]

No, it's not, neither of those has killed 5.2 Million people worldwide in the last 18 months and yet you state that Governments are "overreacting" what will it take for you to realize the seriousness of this virus? 10 Million dead, 25 Million, 100 Million?
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@Ryannnnnn
If fauci/fake news told you that wearing a dildo on your head would keep you safe, would you do it for "other peoples safety"? 🤣
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
@wildbill83 It's to stop the spread of particles, not make you immune to catching it. I dunno I don't listen to American news really my guy.
I think people should wear the mask for their own safety as well as others.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
gol979 · 41-45, M
All covid fines, when taken to court, have been thrown out because they aren't enforceable. It's not law. Also, masks do not stop a bug. Decades of research has shown this and every randomised controlled trial (rct) shows this. Wear a mask if you want but all the pro-piece of cloth over your breathing hole to stop the alleged plague should stop the scorn. It's leading to an overtly divided society
Carissimi · 70-79, F
They do. If the N95 didn’t work, all those medical personal would have been knocked out of commission. It’s not 100%, but if you wear it correctly, only touch it with clean hands, and follow other procedures. It’s 95% effective. That’s better than the vaccine, which allows transmission as much as an unvaccinated. @gol979
gol979 · 41-45, M
@Carissimi the rcts don't show this but crack on with masks...just pointing out they don't stop a bug
romper69 · 51-55, M
@gol979 Not in the UK. During the last enforcement, in London, between July and December 2020, 124,601 were stopped from using public transport until they put on their mask, around 9000 prevented from using public transport for refusing to wear a mask, around 2000 removed for refusing to comply, around 1300 fined and 170 went to court.
SW-User
@Carissimi I seen this thing that the provax cult is super mad about every thing. And hate everyone who dares to be left alone
tallpowerhouseblonde · 31-35, F
@Carissimi You are wrong.It's even on YouTube documentaries about George Washington and the Smallpox vaccination he ordered.Watch and learn.Not hostile I find people that encourage others to break the law aggravating and trouble causing.Far too many have died already without laying down their life through dumb choices like not wearing a mask.
Here is your history lesson.
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O5xE5hMNkU]
Carissimi · 70-79, F
I am not anti-vax. I wear a K 95 mask when I go out. That’s not the point of my post. It’s the penalty/fine for not wearing a mask in a shop or public transport even if you are vaccinated. The point is the dystopian rules coming from those who are not acting in accordance with common sense, logic and reason. Wear a mask in a shop or get fined, but it’s okay not to wear one in a pub or restaurant. How come the virus is discriminating on location? It’s not. These rulers are ridiculous. @SW-User
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
Strange how people care more about their money then they do their own lives.
xp47rb · M
@Thevy29 masks don't work. None of the crap governments want to force on people really works. Places that haven't done it are as well off or better than those who did all the knee jerk crap
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
@xp47rb Places who haven't done it, eh? Name them?
xp47rb · M
@Thevy29 look up the stats yourself.
walabby · 61-69, M
Tyrannical Australia has 77 Covid deaths per million vs 2117/million in the UK....
LadyJ · F
Its all about controlling the masses...we are just one big experiment for those higher up
Tyrannical/Sensible.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@Carissimi You actually don’t know what communism is, do you?
Carissimi · 70-79, F
Stop it, you’re giving me a headache. 🤦‍♀️@BoredDarkLord
Barny52 · 56-60, M
not hard wearing a mask ,its only like using a tissue or hanky when you cough of sneeze, the old way of catching bugs ,dont know if it works but doesn't hurt trying ,,just saying !!
Barny52 · 56-60, M
@Carissimi its the Law from 4 pm tomorrow ,,but whats the problem with being governed by a elected government ?
SW-User
@Carissimi we thus see people wanting to "be governed". A government is elected to serve the people according to their constitution.

Democracy was once a kind of self-government, which people envisioned as freedom from kings. In the vision, there was no concept of a governer- governed relationship. This was the whole point of freedom movements all over the world. People wanted to govern themselves. And they adopted constitutions .

A government begins when it gets majority vote. It ends when it loses majority votes. A nation begins with the adoption of a constitution and ends with its dismissal.

How can we blame politicians when people are demanding tyranny in the name of " being government by an elected government"?
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
All this over a fake flu
Carissimi · 70-79, F
I’m behind the curve on vaccines cause autism issue, but I’m reading Robert Kennedy Jr’ book about Fauci, so I keep an open mind. @Stargazer89
SW-User
@Carissimi never give a politician a pass.

No politician can save you either
Carissimi · 70-79, F
I know that, but many may save the country. I’ll give anyone a pass if I believe it’s justified. No one is perfect. @SW-User
TexChik · F
Masks were never going to prevent covid . Fauci alluded to that day one . They were meant to try and slow the spread …so hospitals would not get over run . Unless the mask is N-95 or better, the virus is getting in… or out . Covid is still 99.7 % survivable
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
Eh good, stops other people from getting sick.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
If they wanted to be authoritarian surely they would have just picked one thing and stuck to it.
When the policy wasn't to have a fine for not wearing a mask were they authoritarian then?
@wildbill83 it's all apart of the plandemic
comfi1 · 61-69, M
As far as I can tell this only applies to England though it can’t be ruled out coming in to the rest of the UK at some point
Carissimi · 70-79, F
It may, but Scotland and Wales already have severe restrictions that may, or may not include this. @comfi1
Carissimi · 70-79, F
@gol979 I’m not arguing with you. If they didn’t stop bugs, doctors and nurses wouldn’t be wearing them all these decades. Have a nice day.
Not sure what sway Fauci has outside the US but here is what he espoused;[image deleted]
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@soar2newhighs Dr. Fauci has no sway in any political sense outside of the USA, of course; but he is part of the international, non-political, technical co-operation working on the pandemic and its mitigation.

Noting his suggestion about the Omicron variant being already in the USA, that is by no means unlikely but sometimes I wonder if a virus can find its own mutations in one country, similar to those found in others, without direct link.

After all, disturbing though it is to us, the SARS_CoVid_19 virus is not doing anything original. All virii adapt to survive.
kodiac · 22-25, M
Very few people here wear masks ,because they were lead believe the danger is over since they got the shot.
nedkelly · 61-69, M
Just another easy tax to impose


What is the death rate in the UK compared to Aust
walabby · 61-69, M
@nedkelly
UK death rate is 2129 people per million.
Australia death rate is 79 people per million.
....as of yesterday.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Carissimi So we'll assume that when you leave your house, you go out naked then?
ServantOfTheGoddess · 61-69, M
First tyrannical traffic laws and now this 🙄
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
I'm ok with that.

 
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