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Mamapolo2016 · F
This requires several questions. How do you define love/in love? Did they at any point promise fidelity?
Too often people assume that a sexual relationship automatically represents monogamy, which is why those nasty STDs flourish.
And, finally, can you either love or be in love with someone and then consciously make a decision that may hurt them deeply?
Too often people assume that a sexual relationship automatically represents monogamy, which is why those nasty STDs flourish.
And, finally, can you either love or be in love with someone and then consciously make a decision that may hurt them deeply?
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Mamapolo2016 · F
@NattybyNeter To me, "in love" is that stretch of time when the rest of the world grays out and the object of love is the sole other inhabitant of my world. That's clearly an exaggeration - I couldn't even drive! - but not by much.
"To love someone" means to me that the relationship has endured long enough for me not to be entirely daft, so I can function, but when it comes to a contest between the loved one and any would-be distractions, the loved one wins. Every time.
Can one of those silly temporary infatuations occur? Yes. But I never act on it. I love that person and to me that means I do not cause them harm.
"To love someone" means to me that the relationship has endured long enough for me not to be entirely daft, so I can function, but when it comes to a contest between the loved one and any would-be distractions, the loved one wins. Every time.
Can one of those silly temporary infatuations occur? Yes. But I never act on it. I love that person and to me that means I do not cause them harm.
NattybyNeter · F
It means the same for me. @Mamapolo2016
PoetryNEmotion · F
@NattybyNeter Monogamy infers fidelity. That is what love means to me. I would never cheat on someone that I love. And I would expect the same in return.
SW-User
No. To me love requires honesty. No way around it, just through.
BeefySenpie · M
No, that’s called I want to have my cake and eat it too
bijouxbroussard · F
No. If you cheat, when you’ve agreed to a monogamous relationship with the person, you couldn’t possibly really love or respect them. And you certainly couldn’t be "in love” with them. Those who believe monogamy isn’t "natural" should give that disclaimer to potential partners.
Fewer misunderstandings that way.
Fewer misunderstandings that way.
NattybyNeter · F
Right. I didn’t even respond because I thought the person was trolling. I could never and I believe in karma. @bijouxbroussard
bijouxbroussard · F
@NattybyNeter I don’t know why the person felt the need to even comment on my reply, because I specified
Some people have "open" relationships where monogamy isn’t part of the deal, and both parties accept that.
So she could screw everyone in town, and she wouldn’t be cheating. But I still don’t think folks who choose to sneak around have any self respect.
when you’ve agreed to a monogamous relationship with the person
. That’s what makes it cheating.Some people have "open" relationships where monogamy isn’t part of the deal, and both parties accept that.
So she could screw everyone in town, and she wouldn’t be cheating. But I still don’t think folks who choose to sneak around have any self respect.
NattybyNeter · F
The moment I started studying psychology and realized that people actions are a reflection of their own internal battles. I stop making a fuss. I hope I always have open eyes to never walk into anything like that. There’s no love in betrayal for me but others are allowed their own opinions. @bijouxbroussard
WhateverWorks · 36-40
They can care about them ‘to an extent’, but love? No. Cheating is an intentional betrayal where you have to disregard the harm it going to do to that other person. When you love someone you don’t intentionally hurt them. If someone believes you can love someone and still intentionally hurt them that’s because their concept of what's an acceptable way to treat people is dysfunctional.
PoetryNEmotion · F
A person who truly loves another will never put himself or herself in the position to lose them. How weak is a person who says one thing and does something so reprehensible? I know the difference between the two. Where is this question coming from? That is what I want to know.
NattybyNeter · F
I have received the opposite answer so I was starting to either think u was an alien or I am surrounded def by damage people that’s completely unaware they are even damaged. They make it seem I am living a fairytale to even think otherwise. But then again with my countries culture majority don’t even believe there are men that don’t cheat. @PoetryNEmotion
PoetryNEmotion · F
@NattybyNeter You set your standards, no one else does. Do not be afraid to believe in what you think. Ever. Some men always cheat. I do not. I believe in fidelity.
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
Yes one can but that isn't the norm. When I'm in love I have eyes for no one else.
NattybyNeter · F
Same. I honestly want to know how. What goes through their mind and emotions?@Starcrossed
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
@NattybyNeter well every relationship and every 'love' is unique, and we all evolve in how we define our experience of love. The love hormone oxytocin is produced with multiple partners for some people, and they may not view infidelity from a monogamous relationship as 'bad' or something to be shamed, especially if their 'main' partner is on board with polyamory.
NattybyNeter · F
Those are different things than what we are talking about. We are talking about two ppl in a monogamous relationship and one is going behind the others back and cheating, lying, risking their health. Then saying they are inlove with that person but they cheat. @Starcrossed
In-love - as in totally infatuated, almost every waking moment consumed by thoughts of the belovéd - for most people no; it's just one object of attention.
But for sex, love and romance addicts, it's a different story. That can have multiple partners simultaneously and even multiple in-love style romances. They pay a high cost in the practical areas of life - work, family, friendships and everything else suffer from the dysfunctionality. They are using the highs of their habit to avoid feeling emotional pain. It doesn't work and can be immensely destructive - but they don't get into therapy until they've reached their rock bottom.
But for sex, love and romance addicts, it's a different story. That can have multiple partners simultaneously and even multiple in-love style romances. They pay a high cost in the practical areas of life - work, family, friendships and everything else suffer from the dysfunctionality. They are using the highs of their habit to avoid feeling emotional pain. It doesn't work and can be immensely destructive - but they don't get into therapy until they've reached their rock bottom.
NattybyNeter · F
That’s not my version of inlove. That would be codependency mixed with obsession but each person is allowed to feel different. Also, I never mentioned polygamy. I am speaking on cheating @hartfire
@NattybyNeter I've only been in love once, was betrayed, and it hurt so much that I've never been in love since.
Having had so little experience at it, perhaps I'm not the best person to answer your question.
I've been with the same man since 1983. We were never in love, but we became best friends within the first 6 months of dating and have proved reasonably compatible.
So please tell me how you experience being in love.
Having had so little experience at it, perhaps I'm not the best person to answer your question.
I've been with the same man since 1983. We were never in love, but we became best friends within the first 6 months of dating and have proved reasonably compatible.
So please tell me how you experience being in love.
NattybyNeter · F
@hartfire My version of in love has to do with me being physically and emotionally connected to someone. It’s an intense feeling of happiness when we are together, a feeling of safety. Me wanting the person to be happy even if I’m not included in that happiness. I want the best for them because they make me so happy by just being in my life. Of course I’m not a airhead so they would have obviously contributed positive attributes why I got to the inlove part. When I’m inlove yes I have eyes but I’m not attracted to anyone one else. At least not to the level of wanting to engage. It’s been a while but from what I can remember that’s how I feel when I’m inlove.
No... I love my man and I love my inner circle of friends - however, I'm talking about two different kinds of love here.
I can't go jumping into bed with the boys because I'm just not attracted to them in a sexual way. My eyes are firmly set on my man.
I can't go jumping into bed with the boys because I'm just not attracted to them in a sexual way. My eyes are firmly set on my man.
4meAndyou · F
If you KNOW that the other person in your life will be very badly hurt...even devastated...possibly destroyed, by your betrayal and by your cheating, then NO. You can't claim to be in love...or to love at all after having done this.
akindheart · 61-69, F
I can't
ElRengo · 70-79, M
"...loving someone and being inlove with someone is different"
It is.
And no, I don´t believe it´s possible, at least not me, not the way I conceive it.
It is.
And no, I don´t believe it´s possible, at least not me, not the way I conceive it.
SW-User
No, idk how some people do that and say they love the other person and that they were "weak" or in lust
NattybyNeter · F
I don’t either @SW-User
Spoiledbrat · F
Yes because humans are complex. And love is not perfect. Neither are people.
exexec · 61-69, C
Yes. My girlfriend did it in college and still remained devoted to me.
NattybyNeter · F
Thanks for your honesty @exexec
Ducky · 31-35, F
Sure! I’m still in love with my wife but we’re in an open marriage, so I’ll occasionally sleep with someone else. Open marriages aren’t the same as cheating, but the scenario is similar enough.
Ducky · 31-35, F
@NattybyNeter Having romantic feelings, basically.
NattybyNeter · F
Just inlove has just to go with emotions not necessarily anything physical for you? @Ducky
Ducky · 31-35, F
@NattybyNeter yes, it can be like that.
Tres13 · 51-55, M
In love with pussee
Mamapolo2016 · F
@Tres13 Then the goal should be to find one that is not connected to a heart.
Tres13 · 51-55, M
Easy buy one @Mamapolo2016
Mamapolo2016 · F
@Tres13 I'm not in the market, but yes.
11knaves11 · 41-45, M
I'm too old for lying so just keep it real how I view it
SW-User
Sometimes sex is really just sex especially for men because we don't form emotional attachment via sex. But yes it can be done but obviously one should exercise sexual discipline so as not to hurt your S.O.
NattybyNeter · F
I’ve heard this before. Still blows my mind. @SW-User
SW-User
@NattybyNeter Think of it this way, could you as a woman have sex with someone you hate? I imagine the answer would be a no, because women need to like a guy in order to want to lay with him otherwise it feels wrong or disgusting even verging on non consensual.
Well men can do it no problem. We don't need to like or love you to F you. We just need you to be naked. Sex is different for men and women.
Well men can do it no problem. We don't need to like or love you to F you. We just need you to be naked. Sex is different for men and women.
NattybyNeter · F
It’s very interesting that you’re also a Jamaican stating this. Given Jamaican male history with infidelity @SW-User
WolfGirlwh0r3 · 36-40, T
cheating is not a real thing, its lying and being dishonest with your partner, its not telling them you love them, but need more, its saying you want them, but denying they dont fullfill something you need to feel whole. Humans on a default are polyamorous, and when you "cheat" you are just lying that one person is enough for you
No.. unless you have a unique relationship that's open.. such as polyamory..
Cheating by definition demonstrates a lack of respect and care.. how can you still be in love
Cheating by definition demonstrates a lack of respect and care.. how can you still be in love
NattybyNeter · F
My sentiments but I’ve been told you can. @Onestarlitnight
Eternity · 26-30, M
Yes. Because we really aren't meant to just have sex with one person.
Can it be done? Yeah. Just like you can shorten a dog's tail or make its ears stand up straight.
Doesn't make it natural though.
Can it be done? Yeah. Just like you can shorten a dog's tail or make its ears stand up straight.
Doesn't make it natural though.
NattybyNeter · F
Interesting. Can you tell me why when I’m inlove I have absolutely no nature to be physical with anyone else? I’m really asking @Eternity
Can a parent love one child and still love the others?
Can one have one friend and still love the others?
Does a Mormon love any of his four wives less?
Can one have one friend and still love the others?
Does a Mormon love any of his four wives less?
NattybyNeter · F
That’s not the same type of love. And while all parents may love their child equally. The likening of each is very different. Ask any child with siblings. We always feel like mom or dad have a favorite or we are treated unequally, despite what the parent May say. Again love and inlove is very different. @hartfire
nonsensiclesnail · F
yes. cheating has nothing to do with love.
NattybyNeter · F
I am trying to understand so don’t view my replies as combative. What you just mentioned sounded more like loving someone to me than being inlove. My version of in love has to do with not just me being emotionally connected deeply with someone. It also has to do with me being physically connected. So that means I can’t physically take myself to that level of attraction to anyone else because of how inlove I am with my person. Also when I am inlove I can’t be selfish. I don’t make it that way: it’s just how my emotions work. I care about the perosn so much that I would never want to hurt them in anyway. Them being happy makes me happy. So how can I be selfish? @nonsensiclesnail
nonsensiclesnail · F
@NattybyNeter sounds like maybe you are emotionally healthy when it comes to love. Maybe you are not a selfish person. It may be that, for me, Ive never found anyone who truly loved me so I dont really know the difference. If someone ere, as you are, deeply emotional and physically connected, I dont know why there would be anyone cheering if the emotions and love are mutual.
NattybyNeter · F
I understand. Life can be challenging to navigate, especially with our emotions and people. @nonsensiclesnail
Morvoren · F
Fuck no. I belong to someone and he belongs to me. We’ve been through so much together that nobody else has anything I want. I’m his until we’re both in the ground.
Fluffybull · F
No
BigImo · 22-25, F
That basically sums up every relationship I've ever had
NattybyNeter · F
As in? @BigImo
BigImo · 22-25, F
@NattybyNeter I've been deeply in love with almost everyone I've dated, but that shouldn't stopped me fucking whoever I want whenever I want
Spoiledbrat · F
Being "in love" doesn't last forever either but love can.
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@Spoiledbrat
I don´t think so.
Being in love is the name I give to the specific love between men and women.
A full and by itself meaningfull "kind" of complete love.
There are of course others, valid in their own domains.
Love for our kids, for family and friends and others each one of a certain nature.
They all have some common things that some if not most call Love.
If about woman and man that "wider" feeling is IMO and even if needed not enough to be love.
And if it being in love doesn't last forever, which may be resignation to what is not a must even if ussual, what doesn't last forever is love itself.
Or.......
May be you are right and I´m wrong.
But I hope it´s not the case.
If so and just IMO what is possible to keep for ever (again in the domain of human mating) wouldn´t be (for my view) worth keeping.
And (again in the domain of human mating) I would not call it Love.
I don´t think so.
Being in love is the name I give to the specific love between men and women.
A full and by itself meaningfull "kind" of complete love.
There are of course others, valid in their own domains.
Love for our kids, for family and friends and others each one of a certain nature.
They all have some common things that some if not most call Love.
If about woman and man that "wider" feeling is IMO and even if needed not enough to be love.
And if it being in love doesn't last forever, which may be resignation to what is not a must even if ussual, what doesn't last forever is love itself.
Or.......
May be you are right and I´m wrong.
But I hope it´s not the case.
If so and just IMO what is possible to keep for ever (again in the domain of human mating) wouldn´t be (for my view) worth keeping.
And (again in the domain of human mating) I would not call it Love.
NattybyNeter · F
I wish I could edit this. Guys, my question is about a monogamous relationship.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Wow. Sorry to offend you that badly. Yet it's just my own opinion.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Define cheat.
NattybyNeter · F
Anything you would have to hide wether it’s getting sexually or emotionally involved with someone outside of your monogamous relationship @samueltyler2
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
Yes. It's important to be mature and control your impulses, though. Sex is what it is. It can certainly enhance a loving relationship between two people or destroy it if one of the people is irresponsible.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
no, a person like that does not know what love even means
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NattybyNeter · F
I’m not sure what some people didn’t understand the question. Why mention polygamy. Cheating and polygamy is not the same. So you believe this person was in love with you but betrayed your trust and lied and sneak and put your health at risk by cheating? Please elaborate? @SW-User
akindheart · 61-69, F
@SW-User do you tead haruki Murakami? The windupbird chronicles was my sons favorite book
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