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Do you ever feel so low about your life?

That most people around you are getting jobs, podcasts, going away/traveling, getting a new home, a new puppy, dating, having kids etc.

And what am I doing? Trying to read self help books every week on just how to alter myself, change myself, better myself. (From severe decades of trauma).
Still feeling panicked about dating, about certain jobs, and even about simply meeting up with a friend from many years ago. People say just say to guys, I do have anxiety but I accept myself...but I know they can choose so many others who don't have my issues. And realistically, do I think they'd choose a person with chronic PTSD over a confident woman? No.

It can feel crippling watching everyone around you experience joy, love and life.. while you are stuck for years, drowning.
Have you felt that?
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uncalled4 · 56-60, M
@Baybreeze
But can I expect someone to be with me, with this many issues?

Yes.
Baybreeze · 41-45, F
@uncalled4 I'm sure it'll be a small pool, I fear rejection so much that someone will be fed up with me ..that I can't switch off these symptoms 😢 But ty so much maybe some would be ok with it.
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
@Baybreeze the other person can have issues too. I mean, my fiancee has ADHD and that takes some getting used to as well. ADHD people can be impulsive AF and that can derail plenty of stuff. And it does.

Nob0dy · 26-30, F
I’ve definitely felt versions of this and I think more people relate than it seems on the surface. It’s easy to look around and feel like everyone else is moving forward while you’re stuck in place, but a lot of what we see especially online is just a highlight reel not the full picture.
Working on yourself is not falling behind. It’s actually one of the hardest and most important things someone can do. Reading, reflecting, trying to heal, those are not small things even if they don’t look as visible as a new job or relationship hey take real effort and courage.
And about dating, someone choosing you is not about being the most perfect or least complicated option the right person is not comparing you like a checklist against others, they’re connecting with you as a whole human being. Having anxiety or a past does not disqualify you from being loved it just means you’re human
Baybreeze · 41-45, F
tHanks so much especially on the last part, because with chronic PTSD, I DON'T feel whole😢But you're right, having anxiety means I'm human. Ty again🌹 @Nob0dy @Nob0dy
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
Listen to your auntie Roberta. Usually I talk absolute crap but today there might be the odd thing I say that is sensible. 😂

Everything you do or do not do is a choice. You can choose to stay trapped by trauma and live a life that is somewhat stagnant which makes you miserable or you can say to yourself "that was then, it is not now" I'm going to choose to be happy instead.

I'm not arguing that choosing happiness isn't hard sometimes but whatever you choose to do, it is you that has ultimate control over your life, even choosing to do nothing is still a choice that you are making right?

Also, don't be comparing yourself and the choices that you make to other people, because most people present the best side of their lives to the world so you're getting a false impression of their lives anyway, when it actually might be really crap but also, it's their life, what they are doing might not be right for you.

And comparing yourself to others is actually a pointless exercise because all you achieve in that situation is to set impossibly high standards for yourself, which you cannot sustain, so you set yourself up to fail and then you are back at square one again feeling shitty again.

Well it's twenty past one in the morning and I've also been drinking vodka so I hope this actually makes sense lol. It feels like a bit of a nonsense rambling, sort of like drunk dialing an ex to tell him he's a knobhead. Don't ever do that by the way. It usually backfires. 😂
Baybreeze · 41-45, F
@PatientlyWaiting25 Would a choice need to be conscious, because I definitely don't think or have had a clear thought of choosing, I'll do nothing. Trauma makes you feel numb, non-existent, and distorted thinking, often that you don't deserve joy, or regular things, and that you're also incapable of it. I agree to not compare, Bec you don't truly know of someone life is what they're portraying. Ty🌼
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
@Baybreeze it can be both I think. You already recognised that some of the feelings you're having are negative - such as the feeling that you don't deserve joy or that you are incapable of it but the choice is, what do you do with that? You can choose to call it out as negative and thus not a helpful or truthful thought or you can choose to accept it. Each time you make the choice that it's not true or helpful, you slowly reeducate your brain of that fact ❤
JoyfulSilence · 51-55, M
When I drive around the countrysidr and see all the nice houses in semi-rural areas with nice yards and patio furniture and grills, and gardens and pools, I wish I would have found a career in an area like that (yet much cheaper, too).

I miss things like going to my grandparents' lovely forested yard for picnics or to sit on their outdoor swing-couch or in their gazebo. Or sitting on soft cushioned reclining deck chairs on the front porch of the old house I grew up in.

I have lived in apartments my whole adult life. I always had tiny balconies open to the weather. I bought chairs and a table and used them a few times and then left them out. They got covered with dirt and mold and rust, so I tossed them. My biggest problem, to be honest, is I prefer to be underdressed and bug-free and not sweat at home, and hated having to dress in public clothes to sit outside! And endure Southern heat and mosquitoes.

Now, my current complex has a grill area and a gazebo, and a pool, but I am too lazy to walk over, or carry over pots and plates and food! And the pool is full of annoying kids.

I am sort of annoyed by all this because financially I could afford all these niceties if only I lived in a less expensive, less dense area. But I work in a megalopolis and need to be close. The areas I would like to live at are too far to commute, at least with my sanity preserved.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@JoyfulSilence I have friends who live in villages someone from a large town might regard as bucolic idylls; and I used to be rather jealous of them.

Then one told me one day, "[This village] is no place to grow old."

No shops apart from a farm shop (expensive and of limited range), no Post Office, no public transport... The nearest towns with any of the shops, services and facilities we all rely on are all several miles' drives away for them. The village does have a thriving community but I am not sure if they are very active in it.

She and her husband have lived there since, probably, their early-thirties when both were in well-paid professions but had commuting round-trips of some thirty miles each day.

Later I realised I was less jealous of their location, than of their ability to obtain that. They are highly-educated, they had good salaries, and as a couple could pool resources. They also bought their home fairly cheaply as it was in poor condition - but that meant spending much money to refurbish it.

While I, with a very modest education and life of semi-skilled "shop-floor" employment, now find myself in a home of my own, paid off, in a reasonable suburban area; convenience shops nearby, the town centre a couple of miles away by frequent buses or a three-quarter hour walk. And much of the rest of the country quite readily accessible, by car or entirely by public transport.

Not entirely ideal as I can't park my car on my own front drive - most of us in our street have to gamble on finding roadside parking spaces - but otherwise, who is the better off? My wealthy (by my standards) married friends in roomy cottages in rural villages, or me in my suburban, 2-up-2-down, terraced bachelor pad with tiny front garden and modest back garden?

Only, I too can't be nude in my own back garden!
JoyfulSilence · 51-55, M
@ArishMell

Oh, I do not want to live in a crumbling rural village with no amenities. I am thinking more of a more modern well-planned affluent exurban area that is less congested and buildings are newer.

My current area is a mix of old and new and is OK, yet more congested. I could probably buy a small house with a yard. But nothing is cheap! And I still must commute since I do not want to live where I work (low class, dirty, high crime area). I used to take a train into the big city to the suburbs, so now I drive. Traffic is bad.

Yet I can retire in 5 years and then move anywhere I want, and can afford! I am still not sure where, though.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@JoyfulSilence I wouldn't say my friends' village is at all crumbling but like many rural areas, and even some nearer to towns, it has steadily lost services and amenities over the years. House prices in places like theirs are steep as well.
DunningKruger · 61-69, M
I have felt the same every single day of my life. It's so hard. I'm sorry you're experiencing this.

The thing that I have found helps the most is just to find something that gives me joy and go with that as much as I can. Just working on being as happy as I can where i am and with what I have was the best I could do.
Baybreeze · 41-45, F
@DunningKruger It's a very helpless feeling especially when even therapists don't really help. I'm debating trying a psychologist vs a therapist now. I'm sorry you've felt this too 😟
Baybreeze · 41-45, F
@DunningKruger Thank you. That's true, I do find joy in nature. But after a while you get mad at yourself that everyone is off booking fun vacation and dating, and making memories, and my anxiety ABOUT my anxiety holds me back. Knowing others are not always patient with someone like me .
DunningKruger · 61-69, M
@Baybreeze Yes, it's hard to not compare your lot with that of others. But doing it poisons your soul, which only makes things worse.
Are you single? Do you own a car? an apartment or house?
I think key things to sort out include a job you enjoy. If you are working something you don't like fix that. Take extra courses and change things for the better.
Next is a place to live. You need a place to store the things you own, someplace you can have a pet. A place with a nice bed, clean sheets, fluffy pillows and a warm shower.
Money in the bank is key to happiness, that can also go back to your job. If you aren't making enough then you need to fix that, it is key.
While you are sorting all of that out you may meet someone and click and then everything falls into place.
every single day
Jenny1234 · 56-60, M
I just do the best I can and I don’t worry about what other people are doing. Is it ptsd that prevents you from working?
Baybreeze · 41-45, F
@Jenny1234 Yes it is
BlueVeins · 26-30
I get that kinda
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
It can feel crippling watching everyone around you experience joy, love and life.

Stop watching them pretending. No-one has a perfect life.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
I feel that way sometimes.
I'm hoping therapy will help me.
Part of me longs to go out and do things but then I get anxious.
It's like looking outside through a window and never going out and participating.
I do agree with uncalled 4 that most people's lives aren't rosy they just get out there and live them.
It might be as simple as taking that first step but it's an awful hard first a step isn't it?
They say everything starts in the mind and I believe everything can also stop in the mind people can talk themselves out of a lot of things, I know I do.
It's actually a comfort when I realize people don't really care that much about what I'm doing they're not sitting around thinking of how to judge me as they have their own life to live and the few people who do and are vocal about it are doing so because they're miserable people or they wouldn't treat people bad.
Baybreeze · 41-45, F
@Justmeraeagain Ty, those are great points 🌸
Cigarguys · 41-45, C
Yes even to this day there are still many things that I will not do because of my tourette's. There's a lot of things that I won't take the kids to either. It definitely holds me back in some ways.
Muthafukajones · 46-50, M
I felt extremely behind in my life until last year. I have several life time goals I haven’t reached yet and I felt panic that nothing would work out. I finally bought a house in my expensive city. I thought I’d never achieve that. I was dating someone I thought was wonderful. That somehow evaporated . I did think I had my life figured out. Day by day I struggle and put the pieces together. I’m starting a diet and a work out program this week. Maybe I’ll find someone great on that journey.
Baybreeze · 41-45, F
@Muthafukajones Congratulations on the house, that's awesome.
Zonuss · 46-50, M
Nope. I do what I do and I believe in me. Forget what others are doing or what they think.
Be encouraged. ☺
GoFish ·
Perhaps but I've gotten so used to it it’s no longer a thought i just avoid facebook 😬
Munumbis · 46-50, M
I'm hiking and camping in very remote places. I never pay attention to the private lives of others. It has 0 to do with me whether they win the lottery of go broke. Not my circus not my monkeys.

 
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