Heartlander · 80-89, M
Both wife and I left our hometowns 50+ years ago and about 10 tears ago we gave considerable thought to retiring in or near one of our home towns, so we visited a lot and even looked for houses. At some point it hit us that we really no longer had a connection to what once was. Parents, friends, etc. were mostly deceased or had themselves left town, and what we really wanted more than anything was privacy and the time and space to piddle or just be. We had lots of hobbies and unfinished projects, and yet unfinished hopes and dreams and a major move would have sucked too much energy out of us with not very much of a payback.
One observation was that people we had maybe been close to 40 or 50 years ago aren't really the same people now, and in some cases there's a sense of intrusion when you bump into them 50 years later and try too hard to reconnect. The leap from 18 years old to 70 years old is a lifetime. I remember one of my close friend classmates who I saw again at a 50th reunion and I didn't even recognize him in appearance and neither in conversation.
One observation was that people we had maybe been close to 40 or 50 years ago aren't really the same people now, and in some cases there's a sense of intrusion when you bump into them 50 years later and try too hard to reconnect. The leap from 18 years old to 70 years old is a lifetime. I remember one of my close friend classmates who I saw again at a 50th reunion and I didn't even recognize him in appearance and neither in conversation.
I grew up in a lovely little town, then I went to uni in a lovely little city. Now I live in a lovely little village. I'm happy where I am and I don't feel the urge to live anywhere else. But if I do have to move again I'm sure I will find somewhere equally as nice.
Gusman · 61-69, M
@HighlyLikely I'm sure if you do move again it is HighlyLikely you will find a lovely place to move to. 🙂
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
I've wanted to leave for about 7 years now. I don't mean leave completely but to live somewhere else with the option to return if I wanted to. However, the pandemic, war and the change in the government made me look at things differently. Since 2022 I've felt like not leaving is actually taking a big risk and I'm trying to come up with some place where I possibly could and where it would be worth relocating to in these questionable times.
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CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@SinlessOnslaught Yeah, I'll try to not make any crazy decision to go to live in the other part of the world without any realistic plan about how to sustain myself there, no matter how much I'd like to.. 😬
SinlessOnslaught · M
@CrazyMusicLover Do you have any places in mind?
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@SinlessOnslaught I had before, now I'm not sure. The inflation in the city where I wanted to move to got really crazy. Moreover it's still too close and in the meantime I came across too many people who actually moved away from there for various reasons. I'll have to do my research. The big problem I have is that I don't drive, so either I start or will only have limited options where to go. And even bigger problem are my concerns about the general safety as a single woman.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
I left my home town sixty-six years ago! (Dad's work site was moved.)
I've not left where we came to in 1959, and won't move home again.
I've not left where we came to in 1959, and won't move home again.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
Left mine nearly fifty years ago, left my birth country almost forty years ago. I go back for long holidays every year now I'm retired. But I'll never go back as a resident.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@Gusman Norway is just a simpler place to live. Every interaction one has with the state or with businesses is less complicated here, there is more trust between people and also between people and the state and local authorities. And the state seems to work for me to a greater degree.
Some examples:
When my wife died, in Norway, the paperwork to deal with the estate was a single page form that i signed and then the tax system sent me a summary of the money and property involved. I'm currently dealing with an inheritance in the UK and I have had to fill in three forms each of more than ten ages, supplied my birth certificate, marriage certificate, certified translations of death certificate and probate documents, a bank statement and utility bill, a certified copy of my passport, and do an online video verification of my passport. In the forms I had to make decisions about what I think the various exemptions should be instead of the tax man doing it for me. Several of the forms asked for information that had already been provided on other forms.
Logging in to banks, insurance, tax, etc. In Norway we have a system that allows one to use the same login credentials for all of them. In the UK every single one has not only a different set of credentials but also a different procedure.
Crime: it seems that there is much less in Norway than the UK
Old age care: In the UK if you have to be admitted to a care home then if you have more than a relatively small amount of money you have to pay the whole cost yourself, here in Norway they can take up to 85% of your income but no more.
There are many more similar points I could make.
I don't mean to say that it's paradise here just that for me and my family at least it is much less stressful.
As a tourist the UK is great, there is so much history crammed into such a small space. Oddly in my experience it is cheaper to be a tourist in the UK than Norway but despite its reputation Norway is not really so expensive to live in provided you don't want to go out eating and drinking in restaurants. I live about an hour's drive from the centre of Oslo the capital but my house is worth probably under half what a comparable house would cost within an hour's drive of London. Also it is an average size for Norway but has more than fifty percent more floor area than the average home in the UK. So even if I wanted to return to the UK to live I probably couldn't afford it unless I moved to some run down inner city area in the north.
Sorry for drivelling on so!
Some examples:
When my wife died, in Norway, the paperwork to deal with the estate was a single page form that i signed and then the tax system sent me a summary of the money and property involved. I'm currently dealing with an inheritance in the UK and I have had to fill in three forms each of more than ten ages, supplied my birth certificate, marriage certificate, certified translations of death certificate and probate documents, a bank statement and utility bill, a certified copy of my passport, and do an online video verification of my passport. In the forms I had to make decisions about what I think the various exemptions should be instead of the tax man doing it for me. Several of the forms asked for information that had already been provided on other forms.
Logging in to banks, insurance, tax, etc. In Norway we have a system that allows one to use the same login credentials for all of them. In the UK every single one has not only a different set of credentials but also a different procedure.
Crime: it seems that there is much less in Norway than the UK
Old age care: In the UK if you have to be admitted to a care home then if you have more than a relatively small amount of money you have to pay the whole cost yourself, here in Norway they can take up to 85% of your income but no more.
There are many more similar points I could make.
I don't mean to say that it's paradise here just that for me and my family at least it is much less stressful.
As a tourist the UK is great, there is so much history crammed into such a small space. Oddly in my experience it is cheaper to be a tourist in the UK than Norway but despite its reputation Norway is not really so expensive to live in provided you don't want to go out eating and drinking in restaurants. I live about an hour's drive from the centre of Oslo the capital but my house is worth probably under half what a comparable house would cost within an hour's drive of London. Also it is an average size for Norway but has more than fifty percent more floor area than the average home in the UK. So even if I wanted to return to the UK to live I probably couldn't afford it unless I moved to some run down inner city area in the north.
Sorry for drivelling on so!
Gusman · 61-69, M
@ninalanyon I found everything you said to be interesting. Certainly not drivel.
Unease with government services would sway a lot of people to find a better place to live than "The Old Dart" (England) So called because the river Dart at Dartmouth was the first land fall for sailing ships coming out of the Atlantic.
I am pleased for you to have found such a better, more easy going place.
Unease with government services would sway a lot of people to find a better place to live than "The Old Dart" (England) So called because the river Dart at Dartmouth was the first land fall for sailing ships coming out of the Atlantic.
I am pleased for you to have found such a better, more easy going place.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@Gusman I took a steam train to Dartmouth from Paignton in summer 2023:
One of the carriages had my name on it! :-) Seen here at the Kingswear station on the east side of the Dart
One of the carriages had my name on it! :-) Seen here at the Kingswear station on the east side of the Dart
I’ve lived other places and now I’m settled back here for now while my daughter does school so she can have a village. I may leave again in time.
DeletedAccount25 · 31-35, M
I was a pandemic away from moving to the other side of the world, so I definitely have no qualms about leaving my home town behind. As for if I will… I’m not sure. At this point in my life, no. But who knows what the future holds.
exexec · 70-79, C
We left ours 40 years ago and never thought about moving back. We visit once a year.
meggie · F
I🤩 left mine about 20 years ago. Visited twice but sadly won't return.
Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
I've lived in the same city my whole life. Don't plan on moving either
I want to leave.
Gusman · 61-69, M
@MarbleMarvel When do you think you will be able to leave? Any plans on where you want to go to?
@Gusman I don't think I can stand another full year. And yes I know where I'm going. I can't wait.
AngelUnforgiven · 51-55, F
I will go wherever my mind and heart leads me.
SwampFlower · 31-35, F
I moved from my hometown to my ancestral homelands and I will die here.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
Left at 20, never went back.
KiwiBird · 36-40, F
Not the Queenstown I know....oh wait wrong country. Probably the same Queen.
ShenaniganFoodie · 36-40, M
Sounds like Victoria
Heartlander · 80-89, M
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Heartlander · 80-89, M
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