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Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
No … many people under the poverty line including myself that grind and have 2 or three incomes plus mouths to feed.
If you aren’t doing anything with yourself to better your circumstances and just give up and say “I’m the victim” then I will call you lazy.
If you aren’t doing anything with yourself to better your circumstances and just give up and say “I’m the victim” then I will call you lazy.
bijouxbroussard · F
No. Some of the hardest working people there are are still below the poverty line. Some of the laziest people are coasting on family wealth—because they can.
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justanothername · 51-55, M
@Justice4All That’s quite a generalization.
Elessar · 26-30, M
No, or better the laziest ones are those who inherited their wealth and spend their day whining on Twitter about borders, immigration and poor people being "lazy" themselves.
justanothername · 51-55, M
@Elessar And whinge for the sake of it.
Jonjdw · 51-55, M
We are told growing up that if we behave and work hard we can achieve. But that is not always the way it works.
NinaCherry · 26-30, F
@Jonjdw LOTS of things can go wrong. even with perfect planning
Jonjdw · 51-55, M
@NinaCherry I know I know.
NerdyPotato · M
Nope, most poor people work harder than the average person with an office job, just on different things.
softspokenman · M
No.
The seven social sins:
1. Wealth without work.
2. Pleasure without conscience.
3. Knowledge without character.
4. Commerce without morality.
5. Science without humanity.
6. Religion without sacrifice.
7. Politics without principle.
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The seven social sins:
1. Wealth without work.
2. Pleasure without conscience.
3. Knowledge without character.
4. Commerce without morality.
5. Science without humanity.
6. Religion without sacrifice.
7. Politics without principle.
Wikipedia
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@softspokenman
6. Religion without sacrifice.
That could be taken in at least two ways!
Isthisit · F
No ive never thought that. My parents were poor growing up but they definitely werent lazy
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
@Isthisit That's a good point. Plenty have been poor, but not because they were lazy and proved that by becoming rich!
Isthisit · F
@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP My parents did end up becoming quite well off. It just took abit of time.
HumanEarth · F
I own a farm, work from sun up to sun down most days. Plus used to work a factory job.
I lost almost everything when I ended up with Epilepsy. Lost my job for medical discrimination, and now I have a lawsuit against my former employer. It is going to jury trial.
That's why I'm broke. My wife can't work anymore, she has a brain tumor and can't collect SSI. (Don't know why) The farm is the only thing I have that is barely holding us afloat.
Sure, I have applied for many jobs. But soon as my epilepsy shows up in the medical background check. I lose the job offer. So I am trying to figure out a way that I make more money off my farm without killing myself at the same time.
So I am far from being lazy
I lost almost everything when I ended up with Epilepsy. Lost my job for medical discrimination, and now I have a lawsuit against my former employer. It is going to jury trial.
That's why I'm broke. My wife can't work anymore, she has a brain tumor and can't collect SSI. (Don't know why) The farm is the only thing I have that is barely holding us afloat.
Sure, I have applied for many jobs. But soon as my epilepsy shows up in the medical background check. I lose the job offer. So I am trying to figure out a way that I make more money off my farm without killing myself at the same time.
So I am far from being lazy
Jonjdw · 51-55, M
@HumanEarth from what I know about disability is you must file more than once that is what I’m told. They always turn down the first attempt. Is what I’m told. Sometimes you must fight them. And then you will get a lump sum. Everything they owe you from when you first filed. I head of it this way a few times. So I’m just saying.
HumanEarth · F
Wife hire a lawyer, and we had to take the farm out of our person names and into an incorporation.
HumanEarth · F
Because we are not selling the farm
justanothername · 51-55, M
Not at all. Hard working people in regular day jobs can still be poor. Hard working fully qualified nurses tend to remain poor all of their careers because nursing is a vocational job. As is teaching, being a police officer, being a fire fighter, paramedic.
A married couple where one is a nurse and the other is a teacher could both be considered poor even though they both work full time.
A married couple where one is a nurse and the other is a teacher could both be considered poor even though they both work full time.
in10RjFox · M
They are not lazy. But tired and worn out, after being used.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@Spoiledbrat Of course some do. But most well off people are not dealing with life and death on a daily basis. And a lot of really wealthy people inherited their wealth.
in10RjFox · M
@Spoiledbrat No .. they just pretend to work hard. Just spending all the time in office or business, does not mean hard work. It is just to invite all the youngsters to steal their ideas or make them earn 4x the amount paid to them, and later cheat them by saying performance is no good, next time try harder and not grant the bonus. Yes it takes a lot of their time.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@Spoiledbrat
More of the wealth acquired by new billionaires came via inheritance, rather than through entrepreneurship, according to a recent report from UBS. It's the first time in the survey's nine-year history that billionaires created more wealth through inheritance rather than through work.
Of the $291.5 billion in wealth controlled by the class of new billionaires in the 2023 report, $150.8 billion came through inheritance, with $140.7 billion generated by so-called self-made billionaires, according to the UBS Billionaire Ambitions Report 2023.1
https://www.investopedia.com/more-billionaire-wealth-achieved-through-inheritance-overtaking-entrepreneurship-8409800Of the $291.5 billion in wealth controlled by the class of new billionaires in the 2023 report, $150.8 billion came through inheritance, with $140.7 billion generated by so-called self-made billionaires, according to the UBS Billionaire Ambitions Report 2023.1
Shadyglow · F
They are "just" in massive economic trouble mostly cause everyone thinks they deserved it.
Hougal · 31-35, M
Not all of them!
Some of them have not opportunities as others in life...
Some of them have not opportunities as others in life...
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Primnproper · 56-60, F
Where’s the correlation between the two?
I don’t see how anyone could possibly generalise that comment over a population.
I don’t see how anyone could possibly generalise that comment over a population.
smiler2012 · 56-60
[@ninacherry ] no i think that attitude is stereotyping it is more too an individual thing than explicit groups
exexec · 61-69, C
Absolutely not. A lot of them work long hours at low or minimum wages.
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
No, I think they often work harder than anyone.
Spoiledbrat · F
I don't know about lazy but lack ambition maybe. But everyone has been dished different circumstances, and some are hard to get out from under.
Skinnygingesarah · 36-40, F
No
rinkydinkydoink · M
About as much as I believe rich people know best how to scam.
BarbossasHusband · 36-40, M
Ofcourse not. Some are, but some rich/wealthy people are too.
Panamared · 70-79, M
Some, but most work hard have more than one job
Pretzel · 61-69, M
They can be. So can middle and upper class people.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
No,because I'm not stupid.
Secretsmile · 51-55, F
No I don’t!
Usually they have had less opportunity and/or have been abused or lost their way for some reason.
Some just can't or won't understand the system or don't want to be a part of it. Or maybe can't be apart of it.
Some just can't or won't understand the system or don't want to be a part of it. Or maybe can't be apart of it.
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
For the most part yes, all you have to see to realize it is to see someone who comes from a place of extreme poverty and no opportunities flourish when they get to the US.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
No
2ndtimeguy · 61-69, M
That would be cruel some get a poor start in life due to circumstances out of their control and its so difficult to make up the $$ in this era!
chrisCA · M
No
22Michelle · 61-69, T
No, they usually have to work the hardest. If hard work made you rich most current billionaires would instead be among the poorest people in the world.
Missbirdie1986 · 36-40, F
Some poor people started out as a rich person who lost all their money to a person or people and don’t know how to get out of it
Torsten · 36-40, M
some most definitely are. Not all though. Many factors why some people may be living in poverty. Laziness is definitely one of them
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Nope. SOME may be, but most are just trying the best they can to get by and are by no means lazy.
SlaveEt · 36-40, F
Some of them are, sure. There are lots of reasons someone could fall below the poverty line.
Missbirdie1986 · 36-40, F
No none gives them a chance because of lack of experience
Jonjdw · 51-55, M
Not all. But some I’m sure. Who knows the balance.
SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
Some poor people work harder than rich people.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Nope we were poor for other b reasons
Pfuzylogic · M
No my Dad is pretty lazy but rich.
Do we all have to strive for money?
AgentOfChaos · 36-40, M
I'm not poor but in definitely lazy
FloorGenAdm · 51-55, M
It's not my call
Krustytheclown05 · 26-30, M
It's possible
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HelaNus · 22-25, F
Not at all
Entwistle · 56-60, M
No.
softspokenman · M
No.
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
Little in this life is so very simple
empanadas · 31-35, M
No, most of the time they have low esteem and think they aren't worthy of being successful or rich.
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