Should Meghan be extradited and placed at Her Majesty's Pleasure in The Tower of London ?

@Adaydreambeliever I’m still waiting to hear what that “behavior” was. The interview was illuminating. Among the racist posts in the tabloids, they showed how the press reported on Kate vs how they reported on Meghan doing the exact same things. It was ridiculous. Something as innocuous as Kate “having a snack” was Meghan “being a pig”.

@Adaydreambeliever With all due respect, bijoux and hijabba are probably better judges of racist behaviour than you are. They're not idiots making stuff up for attention.

@NickiHijab [quote]dislike her despite not being able to explain why[/quote]

Just ask them what YouTube channels, who on Instagram and other ppl on social media they follow and you'll see why

@Harriet03 To [b]you[/b], my friend. Succinct and awesome as always. 🥂😄

@bijouxbroussard Here to help.

@bijouxbroussard No - remember it wasn't shown here at that point. So not seen but I would be interested to see where they came from. As I say it's illegal. If I were to go out tomorrow and say those things I could be arrested.. NO mainstream paper would even consider publishing that. If any other source published it they should also be held to account but it isn't a mainstream one that people saw.. I am thinking it's got to be something like the far right websites you have over there - some way out wacko news source.

Social media blurbs similar.. you can, (rightly so!) get arrested for posting racist rhetoric here.

@Adaydreambeliever @meJess Danny Baker of BBC Radio was fired for posting a photo comparing Archie to a chimpanzee.

The links below came from this article https://keyt.com/news/national-world/2021/03/08/one-reason-meghan-suffered-racist-uk-coverage-the-media-is-not-diverse/

When they first announced who he was dating:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3896180/Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-actress-Meghan-Markles.html

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/prince-harry-meghan-markle-gangster-17055768

Nothing in these article is close to the the truth. Born in LA, she grew up in Woodland Hills, CA which is a decent place to live. Her mother inherited the house from her own father in 2011 and it's in a relatively decent neighborhood. Printing what they did, IS racist, calling her "gangsta" and "gangster royalty."


As far as Archie not being a Prince, once Charles is King, Archie will be a Prince. Either way, because Harry is a Prince, his children should have been afforded the same security as he was given. Simply because they don't have titles doesn't mean someone might not try to kidnap or hurt them. It's ridiculous for anyone to tell them that their child will not be given protection.

Obviously, there are two sides to the story but, for him to leave and blow up his life like this, tells me that the situation had to be completely intolerable for him.

@Adaydreambeliever I think it was shown in the UK Monday night.

@bijouxbroussard Yes we have all heard of the firm. It's supposedly made up of influential advisors and courtiers - they regularly disapprove of and give bad advice from what I gather.. Cite Diana, Fergie and others.
I am not convinced that's correct.. Harry had security, she had security because of Harry and their child would too.. It's likely that it would have been to a lesser extent because Archie would be further away from in line for succession. But that decision would be made by the government.. As security and the wages of the Royals comes from the tax payer.
If they were duke and duchess of Sussex, surely their children would get titled too? Not sure about that?

This is only my opinion but I think it's right that if they choose to walk away from their jobs and because of that they lose their titles, and they move to another country.. WE the taxpayer don't want to have to pay for their protection. I just don't see why we should.. they are welcome to hire their own protection with their own money they make or have. If they stayed in the UK they would have security.. that's without question because they had that.. so if truly worried about Harry then they'd be better of here where they'd have protection

@Adaydreambeliever Wouldn’t they be entitled to that protection if they lived anyplace within the Commonwealth ? I don’t think they’d expect it once they moved to the US, but Canada is still under Elizabeth II.

@bijouxbroussard No because the protection is not just because of who they are.. it's because they work for the UK.. they are paid to do that.. and if they walk away from the job, as they have.. then no, we aren't going to pay for them. It's their choice, one might say they felt they had no choice but they did have a choice.

The thing is.. if they were still working for the firm.. then the British tax payer would pay for protection wherever they went in terms of visiting.. but not if they left the country and were no longer doing the work they were paid to do.. .. that's how it works. but as they stepped away the British tax payer don't want to have to pay to protect them.. I guess we have to remember.. that this isn't the Queen's decision.. it's not like the royal family are punishing them.. it's the Government's decision and the British people don't want to pay for people who have chosen to go live anywhere else. As a Royal the deal is they live here and work for the country and that's why they are paid.

If the Royal family want to pay from their own pocket that's up to them. but they aren't working for us now and they chose to leave it.

@bijouxbroussard I didn't see the show, but I understood that Meghan said it about him being denied a title and Harry didn't contradict her. If that's the case then it's not the same as confirming it. They both refused to name who made the comment about colour and in what circumstances. I am not saying it didn't happen, I am saying that the claim about not being allowed to be a Prince is rubbish because he isn't entitled yet and Harry would know that.

@meJess But what Meghan stressed was that they told her that the security protection only came with the [b]title[/b]. And then there’s the fact that the rules seemed to have been changed specifically for [b]Archie[/b]. Yeah, I’d want to know why, too. Then, there’s the conversation about family members’ concerns that Archie might be “too dark”. Did you notice that Harry didn’t contradict [b]that[/b], either ? Although he wouldn’t give the person’s name, which I totally understand. If someone like Charles or William was revealed to have said something like that, it would affect how they were viewed by people of color throughout the Commonwealth—and the world, really.

@bijouxbroussard I can't answer what people say they were told, or thought they were told or maybe misunderstood. Security protection is provided to prominent state persons in the UK and when travelling abroad, but not when moving permanently. That was discussed between the US Canadian and UK governments at length when they moved the first time so it should be well known. What is prominent is open to question but leaving the UK permanently means no more UK security.

@Dlrannie That’s correct, it did. The interview was a revelation

@bijouxbroussard I’ll take your word it was a revelation as I haven’t seen it

I actually watched it, and found it informative. They both spoke, they both have felt the racism, nothing more needs to be said, the royals now need to make a statement or deal with it. this can not continue. @bijouxbroussard

@PervertedPrincessOfDeath The British press are already on it.

@JeanAnna Perhaps not, but the things described in the interview made sense to me. And I would think that even if the people who don’t like Meghan don’t believe her, they would believe Harry.

@bijouxbroussard I don't dislike her, I just don't like people playing the victim and making it public. There was no need for that interview at all. They have left England to start a new life so why start trouble now with the Royals.

@JeanAnna This kinda lets you know how. misunderstood they must’ve felt to need to do this, and leave this record. So along with whatever criticisms will be left for Archie and his sister to read about their mother, hers and Harry’s reply will be there as well. I remember Diana’s interview with Martin Bashir and people asked the same question: “Why make trouble ?” But she needed to put her feelings on the record, too.

@bijouxbroussard I do believe the Queen has said enough that she loves Harry and would have just wanted him to be happy.. but it seems very clear she IS disappointed that he went and that she hoped they would return after a year. She 'must' be very disappointed by this crude show and tell show though.. especially at a time when her husband is in hospital.. This kind of thing is considered very tacky at the best of times.. the Royals traditionally don't blab and try to maintain a dignified silence. So that would be frowned on

@Adaydreambeliever Honestly, I think both of them got tired of the press and a number of people treating her like she was Yoko and Harry was John. Basically it’s as big an insult to Harry to assume he doesn’t know his own mind and is being manipulated. So the two put everything on the table and let the chips fall where they may.

@Adaydreambeliever I gotta disagree with the royals traditionally don't blab, we've had the Di interview, the prince Charles interview, even Randy Andy too! They aren't so slow to do interviews when it suits em, admittedly pretty much every time the royal in question has just succeeded in making themselves look even worse but tis not true to suggest they don't blab or are dignified.

@graphite Look, what in an American’s life would prepare them to be part of the British royal family ? Look at all the Brits who’ve had conflicts with the “protocol” ? (Um, Harry’s [b]mother[/b], for one) And Meghan didn’t come from the “hood”, btw. She was middle class here and fairly successful in her own career.

@bijouxbroussard Her father worked on the production crew of "Married With Children." The lighting guy or something. Fine, she joined the royal family after being briefed on what she was getting into, and then didn't want it anymore. Do they want quiet lives or do they want to be on national TV interviewed by Oprah? Harry got millions from his mother. Should be enough to take care of them.

As well as every CNN employee. @Adogslife

@bijouxbroussard yep it could of been worst they may have asked if the baby was going to be ginger like the dad ,,doesnt matter about skin colour and thats how it should be ,i hope im right that it was just a simple question .We will not be hearing the other side of the comment so we wont know .And again hope it wasn't,, hope its not too dark sure it wasnt .

@Barny52 Meghan has experienced racism, so she knows how it [b]looks[/b]. It’s a different reality for people who don’t have that life experience.

@bijouxbroussard yep true i wouldnt know ,perhaps im to trusting and cant believe it goes on .

@SW-User yeah😀

@bijouxbroussard [quote]Being less than self-effacing [/quote] no, not at all, I respect you enough to know that that wasn't disrespectful to me - I am sure you didn't for one moment think I thought that. So no, I can only speak for myself personally but her reputation precedes her.. I still hoped for the best but from some of our perspectives she has turned Harry against his family and she has taken him away from us. Harry was truly, one of the most loved of the royals. He seems pretty naive.. and in many ways was always protected.
I would certainly hate anyone to think that we are not feminist here. we are.. in many ways we do have less misogyny and more equality, so no the idea of not liking her because she isn't self-effacing would be to paint an inaccurate picture.

PS we know Lady Diana, Fergie and others have met similar fates of feeling they didn't fit in and weren't welcomed.. I have every sympathy.. but they weren't black so we do have to be careful of making assumptions it was to do with her colour.

@Adaydreambeliever Thank you, I appreciate that and respect [b]you[/b] enough to know that [b]you’re[/b] not a racist.
But I do think that is a big part of why much of the British has a problem with her—her “American” forthrightness and confidence comes across as arrogance. And the racial aspect is very real. Like I said, the interview actually showed articles with people complaining about Meghan “tainting” the bloodline of the royal family. Before they married, I saw Brits here actually [b]saying[/b] as much. So it’s not something to be dismissed.

@bijouxbroussard You may be right.. I truly cannot say.. I never saw one word published against her regarding her race.. But yes, there's a perception about Americans and arrogance. .that's true and an ultra traditionist and stuck in their ways 'firm' would not have taken kindly.. Diana apparently found the same. as did Fergie. .they seem known for doing this. sigh..

The Queen genuinely loves her grandson, he's allegedly one of her favourites and she went out of her way to relate that he will always be part of her family.. in her speech she used that term no fewer than 5 or so times.. She loves him and is disappointed.. for sure.

Racism is never to be dismissed.. we have it here. .we are far from perfect.. but in comparison we are a little further down the line.. it IS illegal to express derogatory racist views here.. Those people saying that can be arrested. its not ok

@Straylight Being half black and loved by Harry, in either order.

@Platinum doesn’t work when you actually believe the story you are telling

@Platinum I don't think Queenie would agree to that.

You're right, , she has planned this for years, next stop president@meJess

I didn’t even know she was mixed race when I watched that. She’s made all this a tempest in a teapot no pun intended. @TheSirfurryanimalWales

@TheSirfurryanimalWales I liked her, acting too. I like her as a person, always have. She’s brave in a lot of ways.

@assemblingaknob pfft

@faseny As you say, this is 2021, not 1021...

It is the UK Government and Parliament who make the laws, NOT the Monarch.

@Mikemcneil Dissed the Firm.

@faseny So ignore her. Nothing’s stopping you.