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Would you feel alarmed?

Few months ago My mom (a rageful, narcissist violent psychopath) said a remark about a news murder. She said " If I murdered you, I'd never get away with it". It really freaked me out because I'd never think about that, whatsoever. She was attuning to if an average Joe were to kill, they wouldn't get away with it. But still it was Jarring, given how awful she's been to me, violent etc.

Earlier today, we were watching a cooking show and the chef had a very large knife, chopping veggies. She goes, "Wow what I could do with that knife." Then paused and added, " throw it at someone's face on a target". But my sister said she added that in to lighten it. That she meant something else. It really alarmed me. How would you feel?
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cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
My father had a large box of paperback murder mysteries. I was in 6th grade and one day he told me that Edgar Allen Poe wrote the perfect murder story about a murder that couldn’t be solved. He read a book a day till he finished all of those books. My mother was dead a little over a year later, supposedly suicide but she was not suicidal. My older sister had just gotten married. She told me she was looking forward to being a grandmother and had a happy expression on her face. My father was cruel to my mother, condescending the way he spoke to her and physical violent at times, tried to make her pay for the bills while he went to the bars and drank heavily…that sort of thing. I think he married her because she was on 100% Veteran’s disability and they only gave him 25% initially and he had to work to supplement his drinking. Eventually he got 100%. A day after she died he started talking about how he would get a widower’s benefit check and it was almost as much as she was getting in disability (at least 75% I believe). My uncle turned his face and looked at me because it was a motive to kill her. The police investigator wrote her death off as suicide because he lied to them, had my older sister lie to them (she was there when it happened and told them he had never been violent) and they wouldn’t speak to any other family member. We could have talked to them all day long and told them about what we had witnessed.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Coralmist He was horrible to my mother mentally, put her down and acted like he was so intelligent, he was a malignant narcissist. He was violent with us too. He especially hated me for some reason. I think maybe because I’d call him out for what he was doing. Anyway after witnessing him beating my mother I got hysterical and ran out of the house screaming and hid behind my neighbors who were elderly and sitting out on their front porch. He sent my younger sister over to lure me back to the house saying he wouldn’t “spank” me if I came back home. I did and I went into the bedroom, shut the door and prayed to God for protection. I never saw him beat my mother again, I’m sure he did but not around me. And every time he lifted his hand to beat me words would come out of my mouth, very simple words that I didn’t even think of and he would stare and lower his fist and stop. He told my sister when she was grown that I had a Cherokee thing going on but I considered that a miracle to protect me because it was automatic. I was too scared to even think of the words to say.
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cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Coralmist Yes he was all of those things. I don’t know exactly what he meant by a Cherokee thing but nobody else would call him out on things that he did, they knew he was mental and didn’t want to make him angrier. He could get really belligerent when his ego was stepped on and wanted power over people. I also had premonitions and dreams growing up and would say things not knowing that what I would say would hit the nail on the head. I have done it a lot as an adult. And later one found out what I said was appropriate for the person. I believe he may have become afraid to hurt me after I would say those words. Cherokees were serious about their spirituality. Those who did what they considered pagan things would be kicked out of their clans and have to leave. They didn’t tolerate it. I never told him I was praying, it was very private. I would go to the vacant lot next to our house and he would tell me to cook eggs for breakfast over a fire in a homemade grill he made with concrete blocks. I did and after breakfast I’d walk back over and pick some small branches from the cedar trees around the lot and put them in the coals and pray silently while they were burning. That’s a Cherokee tradition but nobody ever told me about it and I never saw anyone else doing it since we were in a white farming community. It just came naturally with me as other things I did. I think he must have gotten the hint about it because one time he told me he was going to show me how to grow green beans on a “teepee”. Long straight branches tied together in a teepee, and plant green beans (the vining type) in a circle around it. We did that and got a huge amount of green beans from just a few plants. He must have seen me go over and burn the cedar branches and smelled the smoke and knew something was going on with that.
Levenrack · 46-50, M
Well, given the fact that (as you stated above) she's physically violent, a psychopath and I will assume mentally abusive as well. Are not able to break away, or distance yourself in any manner? I don't care if she's your mum, or identical twin (identical hand twin too) time to curb her, or like @Achelois said. Set boundaries. Do whatever you can to get her out of your life or distanced, till you feel safe!!

Or are you just exaggerating? I only seen a couple posts of yours, so I can't tell what you're asking or need here.

Should you pay heed to her comments, and be mindful of her behavior? Hell yeah you should... you already answered your own question, by describing what she's done already in your relationship with her.

Start with the boundaries thing, be ready to move on....quickly. please. (Also, before you start with excuses and saying I don't know what full story... she sounds just like my stepmother. Who was mentally and physically abusive. Good Luck hun. 🙏
Coralmist · 41-45, F
@Levenrack There's no boundary settings she's sadistic.. unfortunately. She doesn't care in any way or shape my boundaries I've attempted over the years. She's on the biggest ego trip in this world. She's a tyrant and mentally torture you whenever possible.i just need to keep doing therapy so I can get out of her life for good. Thanks..safety is important I agree 🌻
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Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@Lonelyandyb no offense but please don't do this if she is violent she'll become more violent if you confront her just get away
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
I honestly would stay away from her I know that's hard, but you have a right to protect yourself.
Anyone normal would not say that to someone.
TravisTx · M
Is your mom on any medication for her psychotic behavior? If not, she needs to be under a Dr’s care and on meds. It sounds like she’s not, probably due to her narcissism maybe? I certain don’t blame you for being a little freaked out. I think I’d distance myself from her until she gets the help she needs.
Coralmist · 41-45, F
@TravisTx Oh she'd never go on meds nor see a psychiatrist or therapist. She's a 'good person'!!! 😑 😮 We've asked her several times to get on a med and she'll scream at you. She's literally the most horrible/obnoxious person you'd ever meet.
nowic2 · 61-69, M
I would be perturbed and very wary.
I’d be sure to always keep my distance.

Look after yourself !
I would feel the same way you do.
Matt85 · 36-40, M
I'd be devastated at such cold dialogue.
Achelois · F
I’d feel like I wouldn’t want to be in her company.
Achelois · F
@Coralmist

I’m sorry 😔 you maybe should address it with her?
Coralmist · 41-45, F
@Achelois oh you can't address anything, she'll scream, deny it, etc.
Achelois · F
@Coralmist

Yeah I know, it might make you feel better, they like to sweep it under the carpet.

You need to start putting boundaries in, I used to keep quiet but don’t now, even if they are uncomfortable lol 😂
My own mother can say not very nice things about family and I’ll say it how it is .

I don’t let her get away with it.

Levenrack · 46-50, M
Throw Momma from the Train is a wonderfully nice and beautiful movie..... very fun and interesting plot, that no one would ever try to reenact........ ever.

Just saying. Great movie.
Coralmist · 41-45, F
@mZ8iDC2IR5 Right, it unnerved me
@Coralmist at least she knows wont get away with it
DrWatson · 70-79, M
I think your phrase "rageful, narcissist violent psychopath" says it all. I would feel really creepy after this.
WandererTony · 56-60, M
Thats quite unsettling. Please take care. 🙏
Do you live with her?
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uncalled4 · 56-60, M
I'd make sure I carry that needle with animal tranquilizer in it like Dexter.
Lilymoon · F
For your own good, move out of the city/town/country Asap
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
Why is she in your life at all???
@sarabee1995 That's what I was going to ask.
Coralmist · 41-45, F
@sarabee1995 I'm working hard at going no contact. Ty my friend.
When one starts to know, date, befriend a malignant narcissist , they begin to manipulate you. Groom you. Overtake your mind and life. Now imagine being born under one...so every act you do, word you say, is twisted, belittled, ridiculed , or bullied. As a child you will believe it all. That you are bad, and should not even be alive, because they have to even talk to or take any care of you. You're a burden to their existence. When you've believed it for many many years, it's insidiously difficult to undo that blueprint.
So as an adult you develop PTSD , anxiety, hypervgilance. I'm in therapy on how to gain a Self, and how to go no contact for good from this horrible , awful person 😟
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Coralmist

Walk away.

Walk away now.

Walk away fast.

And, walk away far.

Don't ever look back. This person adds nothing to your life. She may have given birth to you, but she is not your mom. 🫂🫂🫂
akindheart · 61-69, F
that is NOT something you say to a child in any capacity
TexChik · F
You can remove her from your life or deal with the drama.
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They are dangerous nut jobs.

 
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