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Why is evolution listed under ‘spirituality and religion’?
It should be listed under science
It should be listed under science
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OogieBoogie · F
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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@OogieBoogie
Oh, you never have.
So you’re not a creationist?
No silly talk about some or other creator?
Well, that makes it easier... we can toss that postulation into the bin 👍
Show me where I said I was a creationist
Oh, you never have.
So you’re not a creationist?
No silly talk about some or other creator?
Well, that makes it easier... we can toss that postulation into the bin 👍
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@OogieBoogie Did you mean that Thornton's reply to Zimmer supports your contention that
natural selection is just chance .
It doesn't say anything of the kind. The word chance is used in connection with genetic drift and contingency not selection.
OogieBoogie · F
@ninalanyon my bad.
peterlee · M
It is a way of understanding our existence. A paradigm.
in10RjFox · M
Evolution is basically an hypothesis which comes under philosophy. In other words it's just a guess work. Science essentially deals with matter that is lifeless and not as much with life which is spirit and spiritual .. in fact even Darwin's is considered a religion within science. Believers and non-believers ..
And thus it's just a belief and cannot be science.
And thus it's just a belief and cannot be science.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@ElwoodBlues
the evidence I am showing you... the evidence you’re trying to ignore... has a 3.5 billion year history
Is that long enough for you?
Now, do you have a philosophical explanation for that evidence?
Evidence has history
the evidence I am showing you... the evidence you’re trying to ignore... has a 3.5 billion year history
Is that long enough for you?
Now, do you have a philosophical explanation for that evidence?
in10RjFox · M
@ElwoodBlues
Whose definition are you talking about ? And who made it finite to say it's definite .. when we are dwelling in infinity ?
And why should I accept or adhere to your finite ?
So fuck all to your definitions ..
Trying to change the definition of the word
Whose definition are you talking about ? And who made it finite to say it's definite .. when we are dwelling in infinity ?
And why should I accept or adhere to your finite ?
So fuck all to your definitions ..
ElwoodBlues · M
@in10RjFox Thanks for the weak sophistry about the definition of "definition," the weak attempts to change the subject, and your introduction of the f-word; it's all pretty cute coming from someone with your pretensions of piety!!
Or maybe you should just demand that tuition money back from your "Bible School." They told you they had prepared you to debate about science, and that is, provably, a lie!!
for I do have a different hypothesis for the whole thing
Why don't you share that "different hypothesis" you promised us? Are you afraid the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" hypothesis will make your hypothesis look ridiculous?? If so, your fear may be justified, LOL!!!Or maybe you should just demand that tuition money back from your "Bible School." They told you they had prepared you to debate about science, and that is, provably, a lie!!
in10RjFox · M
@newjaninev2 I guess you don't understand the basic issue here ..
You are trying to hard sell something which I am unwilling to buy .. and you are insisting that I offer you a better product than what you are selling ..
Though for all possible reasons you are in total admiration of me and that you will spend all of your time to make me buy your product as you have never met a customer like me who is so adorable 😜
All I can say is Stop selling the product as no one needs the product ..
But but but .. if you are genuinely interested to know more about evolution .. do pm me and we can go a long way.. for I do have a different hypothesis for the whole thing ..
You are trying to hard sell something which I am unwilling to buy .. and you are insisting that I offer you a better product than what you are selling ..
Though for all possible reasons you are in total admiration of me and that you will spend all of your time to make me buy your product as you have never met a customer like me who is so adorable 😜
All I can say is Stop selling the product as no one needs the product ..
But but but .. if you are genuinely interested to know more about evolution .. do pm me and we can go a long way.. for I do have a different hypothesis for the whole thing ..
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
ElwoodBlues · M
@in10RjFox
@newjaninev2 also gave you variations in cytochrome c encoding. She also gave you centromeres & telemeres on chromosome 2. @in10RjFox your continued evasion of the question does you no credit whatsoever.
Remember:
so it's vitamin C that's master of evolution ?
DUUUDE!!! That's just one example! There are hundreds or thousands spread across our DNA!!@newjaninev2 also gave you variations in cytochrome c encoding. She also gave you centromeres & telemeres on chromosome 2. @in10RjFox your continued evasion of the question does you no credit whatsoever.
Remember:
@newjaninev2 since you insist .. I am all game for it .. let the show begin ..
You asked for evidence, you've been provided with evidence, and now you're just ducking and weaving and playing word games. You bring discredit on your entire enterprise here!!
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@ElwoodBlues Unfortunately, it’s SOP for creationists
BlueSkyKing · M
I brought this up with the administration. They said because some religious people find evolution unacceptable. Seems they want confrontation. It’s impossible to be a biologist and a geologist without evolution in the mix.
But they also put woo woo astrology in religion too. Maybe the astrology apostles should create their own Bible.
But they also put woo woo astrology in religion too. Maybe the astrology apostles should create their own Bible.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@BlueSkyKing
That’s hilarious. They’re offended by anything that invalidates their unsupported claims. Do they really need to be catered to, patronised, and afforded special treatment?
some religious people find evolution unacceptable
That’s hilarious. They’re offended by anything that invalidates their unsupported claims. Do they really need to be catered to, patronised, and afforded special treatment?
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
While I kind of agree, evolution like science is a belief that few actually want to "believe" in it.
This shows itself in all the political turmoil. For many have their own "interpretation" of what science is. Then some just don't believe in science. And that itself is a "belief".
This shows itself in all the political turmoil. For many have their own "interpretation" of what science is. Then some just don't believe in science. And that itself is a "belief".
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@DeWayfarer If only it weren’t for all that pesky evidence which needs to be completely, consistently, and coherently explained
Not interpreted.
Explained
Science is a methodology... a set of methods through which we can ask questions of the universe and know how much confidence to place in the answers. It’s the best way we have to keep from fooling others and, more importantly, to keep from fooling ourselves (as Richard Feynman pointed out)
It’s difficult to see why anyone would object to that
Not interpreted.
Explained
Science is a methodology... a set of methods through which we can ask questions of the universe and know how much confidence to place in the answers. It’s the best way we have to keep from fooling others and, more importantly, to keep from fooling ourselves (as Richard Feynman pointed out)
It’s difficult to see why anyone would object to that
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 because the methodology contradicts their beliefs. They assign science as a whole as a "belief". And justify it as it's own contradiction.
"Belief" is its own contradiction. You can not, not believe in anything.
Science: you can not prove a negative!
Yet belief negates itself!
"Belief" is its own contradiction. You can not, not believe in anything.
Science: you can not prove a negative!
Yet belief negates itself!
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
Isn't it often discussed in the religion section
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@newjaninev2 And divided the animals into many different species overnight when he made the Cretaceous explode.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Bushranger Yes, I read on a website how he and Alfred Nobel were involved in a conspiracy to make the Cretaceous explode. Apparently Nobel invented dynamite specifically for that purpose, and then Darwin arranged for it to be placed correctly, and Nikola Tesla supplied the detonation system.
The website author, Divine Knuckledragger, became aware of all this when he deciphered a prophecy concealed in the bible, and he wrote about it in a book, which (conveniently) you can order from his website for only $99.99
The website author, Divine Knuckledragger, became aware of all this when he deciphered a prophecy concealed in the bible, and he wrote about it in a book, which (conveniently) you can order from his website for only $99.99
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@newjaninev2 Yes, fantastic book. I bought several copies because it was so good.
The Cretaceous explosion was pretty good, but nowhere near as good as their Big Bang. If it wasn't for Darwin et al, there'd be nothing at all in the whole universe.
The Cretaceous explosion was pretty good, but nowhere near as good as their Big Bang. If it wasn't for Darwin et al, there'd be nothing at all in the whole universe.
Laffytaffy · 22-25, F
Both agree that everything is connected and comes from the same source the Big Bang.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Laffytaffy so the entire universe should be in the 'spirituality and religion’ section?
Laffytaffy · 22-25, F
@newjaninev2 no only in the science section
LeopoldBloom · M
Isn’t everything listed under every category?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@LeopoldBloom Eventually, yes
Have you heard that beautiful, quite haunting Icelandic song ‘everything is gonna be like everything, anyway’?
Have you heard that beautiful, quite haunting Icelandic song ‘everything is gonna be like everything, anyway’?
LeopoldBloom · M
@newjaninev2 I had not, until now. I just looked it up. Thanks for sharing that.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
Hey, you don't know me. Maybe I feel a spiritual connection to the concept of evolution.
SW-User
The administrators got something right.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
Good point.
PhaqueYou · M
Why not fight about it.
Like you good xtheists & xtians always do.
Like you good xtheists & xtians always do.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
Buddhists believe in evolution. Maybe that's why?
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow No. You mean you don't know what religion or cult is. 🙂
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@Zonuss 🤦♂️
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
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