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Why is evolution listed under ‘spirituality and religion’?

It should be listed under science
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Because nobody knows FOR SURE how we all came about.

We have ideas
We have myths
We have creation stories
We have hypothesis
We have belief
We have relics


But we have no solid undeniable proof of HOW we all happened ... yet 🤷‍♀️
in10RjFox · M
@OogieBoogie yeah . Numerous cock and bull stories .. in fact we can also make Spiderman and Superman as gods and make people believe in it 300 years later ..
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@OogieBoogie Evolution isn’t concerned with cosmology, or abiogenesis

Evolution is concerned with what hapened [i]after[/i] life on Earth had begun

In the regard, the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is rock solid

No beliefs, myths, or creation stories, needed 😀
@newjaninev2 you need to read the new stuff out, natural selection is just chance .

And I'm not saying it isn't real to a degree....we are still learning how it works.

Science is always changing.
New discoveries replacing old ones .
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@OogieBoogie [quote]the new stuff out[/quote]

Oh, interesting... could you send me a few links to relevant published research?

I’d be interested to see how sex and death no longer exist 😂
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@OogieBoogie Science is always changing.
New discoveries replacing old ones

That’s correct... which is what makes science a vibrant, exciting, and powerful enterprise.

Step by step, our knowledge builds, and our understanding becomes clearer and clearer 👍
@newjaninev2 knock yourself out....

https://carlzimmer.com/the-blind-locksmith-continued-an-update-from-joe-thornton/
@newjaninev2 and I never said it wasnt exciting , or that it didn't build our knowledge or tjat it wasnt a worthwhile enterprise.


I just said we don't know it all yet....much of it is hypothesis.


But I did enjoy ending my year with your sarcasm directed at me .

🙄
in10RjFox · M
@newjaninev2
[quote] Step by step, our knowledge builds, and our understanding becomes clearer and clearer[/quote]

To achieve what!.. other than wasting our precious time that future lends us.. and When we are moving farther away and origin is more obscure than ever ..
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@in10RjFox There are those who want humanity to live in abject ignorance, subject to the whims and lies of those who are filled with hubris and misanthropy

I prefer that humanity should know

You might not like what science discovers... but you cannot say you did not know
in10RjFox · M
@newjaninev2 😀😀😀 and quoting that you cannot erect or resurrect another scientific lie .. as already humanity has suffered and is suffering the outcome of one resurrection.

Yes if humanity has to know let it go and discover or invent afresh.

Origins were not meant to be discoverable.. and that's the fact. As Bertand Russell said "A New world began just five minutes ago".. is the best theory ..
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@in10RjFox I said "There are those who want humanity to live in abject ignorance”

[i]quad erat demonstrandum[/i]
in10RjFox · M
@newjaninev2 yeah .. but I am not the one .. I give them the right perspective and protect them from consuming bullshit like theory of evolution.. which claims to be scientific ..
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@in10RjFox So you would prefer that they consume your own personal brand of bullshit?

Fortunately humanity has you there to provide the ‘right perspective’ 😂

Pure arrogance and hubris!
in10RjFox · M
@newjaninev2 if it's a choice of one bullshit to another, then mine is better ..

Your thrust is arrogance.. but mine is defence ..

See how you become when you try to hard sell something..
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@in10RjFox only one is evidence-based, and consistently, coherently, and completely, accounts for the evidence
in10RjFox · M
@newjaninev2 substantiation of a bull shit as evidence does not maketh an evidence .. but bullshit in your hands as evidence is only bullshit..

So the only logical question is ..

[big]which bull's shit do you have in your hands now ?[/big]
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@in10RjFox Umm, you’re becoming somewhat incoherent.

Take a deep, calming, breath and try again
in10RjFox · M
@newjaninev2 sure .. let me know what you want me to explain ... as your inability to coherence, is not really my problem ..

Maybe it's beyond your tolerance which you are blaming as coherence ..
@in10RjFox hehehe...personally, I'd let it go .


She's been arguing this topic for years😏

In fact ....its about the only thing she posts about.


Which is kinda ironic youde think she'd evolve eh?😏
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@OogieBoogie You’d think that at least one creationist out there could respond to the evidence in a germane and rational manner
in10RjFox · M
@OogieBoogie [quote]
In fact ....its about the only thing she posts about.[/quote]

😀😀😂😂 Good to hear that shy has factulised something, as she knows the secret to truth is uttering an utterly bitterly lie as often ..
in10RjFox · M
@newjaninev2 why should anyone accept your evidence as evidence ?

And what are you making evident out here .. when you are making a hypothesis out of what became evident to you and you only !
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@in10RjFox My evidence is physical, demonstrable, comprehensive, and requires an explanation

The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection consistently, completely, and coherently, explains that evidence.

Do you have a better Theory?

At this moment, on a different thread below, I’m showing you a time part of that evidence... and you’re running away from it
@newjaninev2 well thats kinda like the pot calling the kettle black .

I realise I've had this argument with you before , quite a few times in fact .

Amd youre not innocent of being sarcastic and inflammatory to incite an over emotional response, and then degrade people for it.

I DID argue rationally , and you disappeared from responding to my rational argument, to commence with a more emotional one with someone else .

And on your posts , you've had quite a few "creationists" respond with reasoning...
So your comment isn't true.


Yoy create these posts to incite argument.

If it was to create debate, you would focus on that, and not viciously condemn others beliefs, just because of what you choose to believe .


The fact that evolutionary theory is still incomplete, is still being worked out, still has holes, and is still dismantling some of its own theories, kind of shows its not a solid science yet .

It has great potential, yes .
But it still has so much to be understood.

And the fact that its considered to be a 'soft science': standing in the middle ground between theory and science , is well known.


We are still learning .


And condeming a 'creationist' because you choose to believe they have no evidence is kinda amusing, when creation is explained in the very same sequence of events as evolution follows .

So maybe, evolution is just a detailed example of creationism , which was written for a more simple people thousands of years ago .

I imagine , if one had told the masses back then that they had evolved from fish, one might have been nailed to a cross as heretic 😏

Evolution is a work in progress, trying to piece together random geological finds into a cohesive pattern. It makes claims about events that were not observed and they are struggling to recreate.

One day, it may become a hard science ....but its not there yet.

And the fact that you keep arguing it actually shows your insecurity about it .

You keep needing to push others down about their beliefs, to build yours up.


If you truly believed in it , you wouldn't need to be posting these posts, and you wouldn't get so 'stabby stabby' about it.

This is more about your ego , than evolution.

And the fact that you haven't emotionally moved on is quite ironic .


I hope you find eventually peace within yourself about this.
in10RjFox · M
@OogieBoogie well .. she has fallen in love with me . So don't disrupt our love making .. and you know we are busy .#$&$#@+) each other ..