fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
Anywhere, anytime! They have the opportunity to self- deport, with a free plane ride and $1000. So, if they choose to stay, they take the chance of getting arrested, deported, and no chance to ever return legally!
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Joseph8284 I am not going to spell it out for you, because you can see what ethnicities of people ICE is targeting just as well as I can.
Scream CLOWN WORLD if you have a white robe and pointy hood in your closet.
Scream CLOWN WORLD if you have a white robe and pointy hood in your closet.
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calicuz · 56-60, M
No, it's illegal to arrest people before their day in court, or have been allowed to stay after their court hearing.
Policing the country is not the role of the federal government. Neither the FBI, CIA, nor Homeland Security are in place to police America. They are in place to investigate different levels of crimes, including federal crimes.
Policing the country is not the role of the federal government. Neither the FBI, CIA, nor Homeland Security are in place to police America. They are in place to investigate different levels of crimes, including federal crimes.
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HoeBag · 46-50, F
I do not. They need to be given a hearing first.
If there is a good chance they will be arrested before given a chance to state their case, there wouldn't be any reason to go to court to begin with.
If there is a good chance they will be arrested before given a chance to state their case, there wouldn't be any reason to go to court to begin with.
kodiac · 22-25, M
I don't understand if they have a court appearance doesn't that mean they are already under charges ? Unless they are there to protest or with family in that case yes ,is there special place where criminals go to be arrested?
shannonredtail · 31-35, F
Of course ICE should enforce immigration laws wherever they are broken.
bijouxbroussard · F
@DudeistPriest And of course, you think it’s just a card game.
Like I said, I’ll leave you all to your Klan meeting, in keeping with the current administration.
Like I said, I’ll leave you all to your Klan meeting, in keeping with the current administration.
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Adstar · 56-60, M
Thats a smart tactic.. Good idea..
BorealPedant · 41-45, M
Anything I want to write about ICE can't really be repeated on social media.
Thrust · 56-60, M
Rage bait
dale74 · M
Yes, these are criminal courts this means they have been in a place where they were charged with some crime. The rules for immigration is you must stay out of any trouble.
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Bumbles · 56-60, M
I hate ICE, so no.
SkeetSkeet · 100+, F
I find it odd that they wear masks
@SkeetSkeet I don't. Most people who do something illegal wear a mask in the process.
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Wiseacre · F
NO, of course NOT!
YoMomma ·
Defend themselves for what?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@YoMomma So you don't think the fifth Amendment should apply to everyone, then? You think the founders were wrong?
LinuxBreaksWindows · 26-30, M
No, sounds like 1930s Germany to me.
bijouxbroussard · F
@LinuxBreaksWindows Exactly like it, complete with Nazis laughing at the prospect. 😞
RageAgainstTheMachine · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard Erections for blood sport.
LinuxBreaksWindows · 26-30, M
@wildbill83 The NAZIs actually started with deportation, then they moved on to genocide
tobynshorty · 51-55, F
Absolutely not! They have a right to a trial!
Joseph8284 · 18-21, M
Yup! A fugitive is subject to arrest anywhere!
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Joseph8284 · 18-21, M
bijouxbroussard · F
@Joseph8284 I listen to what they’re saying. I’m guessing you don’t. Fox and Breitbart are pretty insular bubbles. You’re with the "MAWA" crowd ?
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Why not! They have broken the law. They wil. Get a day in court
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
Yes or anywhere else illegals are.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@HobNoblin So how long have you hated the Fifth Amendment?
RageAgainstTheMachine · 41-45, M
Do you feel it's appropriate for a pedophile to be the President of the United States in front of children of Republican parents when he should be in prison?
bijouxbroussard · F
@RageAgainstTheMachine And the sniffing’s right-wing gossip, weakly trying to come back against actual charges regarding their sexual assaults. GOP= Guardians of Pedophiles.
Joseph8284 · 18-21, M
@RageAgainstTheMachine Oh, you mean like Bill Clinton?
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MrSmooTh · 31-35, M
Lol yeah. Should have come into the country legally. Try again.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@MrSmooTh https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fifth_amendment
MasterLee · 56-60, M
No due process coming in, none going out
Joseph8284 · 18-21, M
@MasterLee best answer!
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Joseph8284 · 18-21, M
@LordShadowfire that's not what he said... that's what you imagine... CLOWN WORLD!!!
If they are criminals then yes
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Nunlover https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fifth_amendment
@LordShadowfire I ain’t clicking no link from a knob on SW 🤣
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
acpguy · C
Any place at any time if they illegally entered the USA.
bijouxbroussard · F
No. That definitely goes against due process and our Constitution.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@specman
I’m sure that if what they are doing is wrong an activist judge would block them.
Judges have tried telling Trump and his secret police that what they are doing is unconstitutional. He's just ignoring them. As it turns out, all of the checks and balances we've been relying on all these years are just paper tigers. Everybody's afraid to actually stand up to him.
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@specman You see how you're taking the same side as @Joseph8284? Does that worry you?
TheYawnArchive · 46-50, M
Nope, appropriateness isn't this administration's strength.
bowman81 · M
Yes
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@bowman81 I love how you claim to know what happens in these cases right before saying nobody knows what happens in these cases. You would eat your cake, then have it.
bowman81 · M
@LordShadowfire I have been trying hard not to make this personal. You asked if we approved of arrests at the courthouse and I gave you my answer. I also gave you my reasons. You are unlikely to agree with me any more than I am with you. That doesn't make either of us hateful, prideful, arrogant or stupid. It just means we disagree. We can do that without personal attacks can't we?
Hope your day gets better.
Hope your day gets better.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@bowman81 I haven't attacked you. I'm pointing out that your argument is bad. In the same comment, you posted that you know for a fact those people got their due process, and then said nobody can know what's going on.
It is my experience that people who have been caught in a poor argument often claim that it is a personal attack to point out what's wrong with that argument, rather than learning from it. Yet I, fool that I am, keep trying to help people improve their debating skills.
It is my experience that people who have been caught in a poor argument often claim that it is a personal attack to point out what's wrong with that argument, rather than learning from it. Yet I, fool that I am, keep trying to help people improve their debating skills.
Moneyonmymind · 31-35, M
Not at all
dale74 · M
@Moneyonmymind why not
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
Lolz yup
SlippingAway · 46-50, F
No
dale74 · M
@SlippingAway why not
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@dale74 https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fifth_amendment
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Yes
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
NO!
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TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
@MsSwan lolz. B.A
dale74 · M
https://www.nilc.org/resources/green-card-holders-know-your-rights-risks-during-the-second-trump-administration/
https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-f-chapter-3
https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-f-chapter-3
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@dale74 I didn't ask for that. The question was whether you agree with the Trump administration's jackbooted thugs violating people's Fifth Amendment rights.
Yes