The Simple Solution To Religion And Atheism

@jshm2 Poor diddums doesn't like his blinkered belief in religion questioned... What a sad sack who cannot accept criticism. This is why Christianity is so flawed - makes out it's all inclusive but in reality Christianity is the most divisive religion 'brand' going around.

@zonavar68 Freedom is just another man-made illusion used like religion to manipulate people.

My favorite quote of all time is: "Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty." ― Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune

@BibleData Sorry I already know that Freedom is not Free - because for any convenience there is a price to pay. Having the internet is a convenience, having this site is a convenience.

@DeWayfarer Yeah. And I probably liked one of yours as well, but this turn in the entire affair is most upsetting. Okay, maybe not that bad, but boy-howdy it isn't good. Not by any standards. No.

No. This will not do. Yeah. You're gonna' have to fix that. No doubt about it.

@BibleData Why did you continue after this reply of your own? 🤷🏻‍♂️[quote]Alright, that's it. I'm just going to block you.

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I'm joking, of course. 😁
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It was over then! 🤷🏻‍♂️

@LadyGrace [quote]Oh, I think you were very clear when you said you hate Christians. That really doesn't need interpretation.... it says what it means. [/quote]

True. It means I hate Christians. And I do. I hate them.

[quote]It certainly doesn't mean to love someone. And the hate is not to love, by the way and Jesus's righteousness when he was angry, has nothing to do with what you said. Try as you may. The Believers in God that I know, don't say they hate people.[/quote]

I've been doing this for 30 years. You're the biggest fake ignorant Christian I can remember ever encountering.

@BibleData [quote]You're the biggest fake ignorant Christian I can remember ever encountering.[/quote]

I am a confident Christian and sadly, if you are happy to hate me, then go ahead and hate me. But I won't ever hate you. Thank you

@BibleData Why hate? Hate is a toxic emotion that ruins the world and brought us in the mess we're all in, hate brought us racism, sexism, ageism, Classism and stateism and all kinds of isms.

Nothing good comes out of hate, hate brings war, love brings peace and unity.

Don't fight hate with hate fight hate with love. The words of Martin Luther King Jr.


Make peace and love not war, hate and bigotry brings us nowhere, we have too much hate, ignorance and judgement in this world, there's people that hate other people based on their race, sexual orientation, gender, religion, class, geographical origin, political beliefs, lifestyle and culture, looks, height and weight etc... hate is the mind-virus that infected the whole world and love, peace, justice, harmony, forgiveness and compassion is the cure.

Why can't we all just get along? It takes lots of energy to hate another human being when we should be compassionate and love one another. Hate is a strong emotion, it's okay to strongly disagree and dislike a person but it takes too much to passionately hate a person.

@Matt85 Yes, perhaps he does. But he isn't a prostitute so no monetary exchange need take place.

@BibleData I've not heard that about Jesus. Pretty wholesome guy.

@BibleData Look them up yourself, professor.

@LeopoldBloom [quote]Look them up yourself, professor.[/quote]

Okay.

Gods: In Christianity, the creator and ruler of the universe; supreme being and source of all moral authority.
[b][u]One having power over nature and human fortunes. An idol or the conventional personification of fate.
An adored, admired or influential person or anything given supreme importance. Money, for example.
A god can be a gallery, that is, the upper balcony in a theater or the people seated there.[/u][/b]

Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the [b][u]existence of God or gods[/u][/b].

Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods.
a particular system of faith and worship.
[b][u]a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.[/u][/b]

@BibleData I agree with all of those except the last line. It's demeaning to actual religions like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, etc. to say that someone who attends every game of their favorite sports team is practicing a "religion." You may want to look up what the IRS defines as a religion. They don't let you deduct the cost of season tickets, even if you really, really love your team.

[quote]The term church is found, but not specifically defined, in the Internal Revenue Code. With the exception of the special rules for church audits, the use of the term church also includes conventions and associations of churches as well as integrated auxiliaries of a church.

Certain characteristics are generally attributed to churches. These attributes of a church have been developed by the IRS and by court decisions. They include:

Distinct legal existence
Recognized creed and form of worship
Definite and distinct ecclesiastical government
Formal code of doctrine and discipline
Distinct religious history
Membership not associated with any other church or denomination
Organization of ordained ministers
Ordained ministers selected after completing prescribed courses of study
Literature of its own
Established places of worship
Regular congregations
Regular religious services
Sunday schools for the religious instruction of the young
Schools for the preparation of its members
The IRS generally uses a combination of these characteristics, together with other facts and circumstances, to determine whether an organization is considered a church for federal tax purposes.[/quote]

[c=003BB2]https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/churches-religious-organizations/churches-defined[/c]

@Emosaur
1. Yes
2. They are not!

@jshm2 I'm sorry, are you suggesting that a religion which, for instance, completely at random, demands the killing of people who practice a much older religion, isn't a problem?

@jshm2 [quote]You fail at the first step in your diatribe by thinking "religions" as the problem. It's peoples beliefs, and understanding, which is the problem. Their behaviours are also driven by their personal desires, not religions.[/quote]

I agree. How you respond to anything is what's at issue. The issue itself may be more or less subject to corruption, but it isn't religion, or atheism, or politics, or education, or love, or money, or race etc. that is the problem.

[quote]As for your daft advice to "ignore," that's akin to telling a kid to close his eyes, and school shooter will not see him, let alone kill him.

Back to the drawing board with you, kiddo.[/quote]

It's interesting, kiddo, that the primary objection to my tongue-in-cheek post is "ignore."

@SW-User You have learned the secret, brother or sister. Go forth and proclaim.

@LordShadowfire Sorry I couldn't respond to this thread but I've been busy for the last couple days. I enjoy our talks as well. It's always enjoyable to me to discuss the things we've discussed. I'm interested in the Bible and religion. I don't consider myself intelligent, though. If I'm in any way unique, and I think I am, it is due to my critical thinking. I'm very critical about my beliefs, my thinking, and even my God, Jehovah. I think it would be a disservice to me and to God to be otherwise.