The Simple Solution To Religion And Atheism

@DeWayfarer
Exactly. I do actually have a personal website (no advertising or donations accepted, I pay for it myself) and on it is a page called time. It's just a YouTube video playlist of film footage of people from the late 1800s to 1970s. The people in those earlier videos lived their lives, made their noise and ignored most of everything going on around them. It's temporal. Vanity.


Well, who cares? It's just noise.


There is no winning point. It's in your head. It isn't real. When you see a child throwing a tantrum in public you walk by. You can waste a year or more of your life writing a book on how to parent but you will only have made money and maybe amassed a small group of bobbleheads that could have figured it out themselves and in the meantime life goes on all around you.


Here? The format is weird. It seems to be automated. You can post in a specific group but it will show in various groups. You're apparently seeing messages in one big group dispersed throughout in no linear fashion. I don't know, it's weird, but posting in a specific group may be preaching to the choir. Still just noise. To get you worked up or be ignored. If you're interested your voice may be heard above the din, but it doesn't matter. Tomorrow it will be gone. Replaced by some other noise. The noise must continually flow like a polluted river. Sink, swim or climb up on the bank and feel the sun's healing rays.


Just ignore them. You don't need to block them or silence them. You have to live with the fact that there's people out there who make noise that sounds different than your own.


This seems strange to me. Fight fire with fire. Noise with noise. All of it to be ignored by those not consumed by the same fire.

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There is no difference between conservative and liberal or political party. It's all one big dumb distraction. Active participation in it from any angle only prolongs it. When it stops working - that's when it stops. But it really only ever does that on an individual level.

By ignoring it, I mean take it for what it is and don't let it consume you. You may get sucked into it and you certainly can't help but be immersed in it, but don't take it very seriously. Don't let it define or consume you.

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@BibleData who cares? I do. That's all that matters.

That's the only point of yours that matters.

@DeWayfarer
Right. That's all that matters, but only to you.


Right. That's all that matters, but only to me.

@BibleData
You fail to see the point of the baby. Yet at the same time you fail to see you don't forget it either.

It will ALWAYS be in the back of your own mind.

You can't ignore it.

Just like ALL commercials!

@DeWayfarer The baby has no point, and I can see that. The baby wants control. I don't want to forget that, or fight it, or give in to it, or support it, get it out of my mind. I just won't allow it to control me. One of the ways it can do that is for me to try and control it. I don't need to control it. I don't need to get rid of it, or silence it, or change it.

I ignore it by not overreacting. I see it. I remember it. I think about it. I laugh at it. What I don't do is allow it to make me feel mad, bad, sad, glad or had.

@BibleData
Wrong. There's always a reason.


It's already controlled you.


It's already in the back of your mind, by just recognizing you want to ignore it.

That's the point of ALL commercials.

It's called brainwashing.

Fighting back means you recognize what is being attempted. Ignoring it means you don't recognize it. You just let it sit in the back of your head and that sitting there influences you.

Repeat anything often enough WILL influence you.

Basic memory techniques.

@DeWayfarer Alright, that's it. I'm just going to block you.

🖕

I'm joking, of course. 😁

@DeWayfarer
I didn't say there was no reason, I gave the reason. To control. I said there was no point, as in nothing I could do.


No. It hasn't.


George Orwell wrote that all art is propaganda. Pablo Picasa said art is the lie that enables us to realize the truth. Most everyone has a story or perspective, many people want to share theirs. A few want to shout over or silence others. Recognizing it isn't something you can ignore, but feeling passionate about it may be more detrimental than not. What is to be ignored is not the recognition but the overreaction, emotional attachment or fixation.


Fighting back means reacting, resisting. In reacting, passion and emotion tend to magnify harmfully, resisting tends to replace rather than improve. You mention commercialism. We live in a material commercialized world. Fighting back means material destruction of commerce? Ignoring means though you have to be a part of it - you need some materials and commerce is where you get them? Perhaps you want to fight back by writing a book discouraging materialism and commercialism? And promote your massively produced product through advertising? Fighting back often produces obvious hypocrisy. People overlook that - out of necessity? Or people become conditioned and selective? In becoming conditioned they are controlled, in being selective they become hypocritical and tyrannical.

Everyone want to control the world. Maybe more people want unbridled materialism and consumerism than not. Mob rules? Or individual freedom? Democracy or Republic? Bombarded by hypocrisy and conditioning, the solution is recognize it for what it is, your own participation in it. Do no harm. Most of it is just babies screaming for control. In fighting it you just bring yourself down to it's level just as you do if you give into it.

If something that is siting in the back of your head influences you to the extent that you are in its control then you need to become more self aware. Fighting it won't likely improve your control over the situation, but understanding and acting appropriately might.

@BibleDataYes you did. This is your own once again


No point or no reason is the same thing.

This is not worth it. You're mind is not on this topic. For the reason I just stated.

@DeWayfarer [Laughs] Wow, man! You are just a reasoning machine! I feel so foolish for making such a logical fallacy. No wonder you would wish me well and disengage.

The reason and the point are not the same. The reason could be anything, the point is to gain control.

@BibleData
You're FIXATED on control! You can not think of anything else!

You don't WANT to think any differently.

@DeWayfarer Don't tell me where my mind is. You have no idea. You can't forfeit reason in a discussion or debate with such a stupid tactic. Doing that doesn't solve your problem. It doesn't make your unreasonableness disappear in a puff of logic.

You only think my mind is not on this topic because you can't stand the thought that your worldview is poorly constructed and thought out. That you can make a mistake. Mistakes are what life and learning are all about. Embrace it. Conversely, if I'm wrong show me. Stop being an intellectual coward.

A good fighter knows when to admit they got their ass kicked.

@BibleData A fanatic in thinking is never the less still a fanatic. This is not an argument. This is fanaticism. Your mind is made up. No use to in attempting continuing.

@DeWayfarer Can you let it go. You are the one who mentioned something about t he last word, correct? Can you let this go? Do you have to have the last word?

@BibleData I tried.... 🤷🏻‍♂️

@DeWayfarer [Laughs] No! I don't want to have a good day. You've politely condescended to me by wishing me a good day three times now. Insuring that I will not have a nice day. In fact, I'm going to mark a day in mid February and another in May to not have a good day on those as well. Due to your insolence and insincere platitudes, see if I don't.

@BibleData Guy! I even liked your reply the other day! You brought brot this up again following another reply after the one I liked!

@DeWayfarer Yeah. And I probably liked one of yours as well, but this turn in the entire affair is most upsetting. Okay, maybe not that bad, but boy-howdy it isn't good. Not by any standards. No.

No. This will not do. Yeah. You're gonna' have to fix that. No doubt about it.

@BibleData Why did you continue after this reply of your own? 🤷🏻‍♂️
It was over then! 🤷🏻‍♂️