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Those of you who are annoyed Israel is defending itself again should visit Auschwitz, and be honest!

The Israelis, as Jews, will NEVER let this happen again, and instead of unfriendly Europeans all around them then they have unfriendly Arabs and Muslims....

I'm not Jewish, I'm Christian, and my Lord Jesus was born a Jew, so I feel with reflection we can see why the Israelis might seem heavy handed.
And they are doing to others what was done to them. That does not make it right.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@BlueMetalChick honey I know you are on my side
Your comments on here have lighten up the whole post
Very beautiful person 🥺💗
My comment was meant to back u up it was for someone else
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@LeopoldBloom If Hamas had funding, they wouldn't be using cheap ass rockets that have been outdated since before I was even born. Their arms are obsolete and their tactics are simple and dumb, because they don't have anyone who knows what the fuck they're doing.

Furthermore, it doesn't make a difference if their offer was made in good faith or not. They're obviously not offering to cease their violence because they're just nice people and wanna get along with everyone. They're hateful and gross, we know that, but they're also impossibly outnumbered and outgunned, and they fucking know it. They made that offer because they didn't wanna die.

You're gonna acknowledge that it's wrong to hide insurgents in civilian populations because they can cause harm to innocent people, but you're not gonna acknowledge that it's even more wrong to just bomb the entire population into oblivion? Installing military forces in a civilian population IS a war crime, as it should be. It's wrong because it puts those civilians in danger. And therefore, bombing the same civilian population should also be a war crime because that also harms them.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Moon3624 Oh, no worries. Nested comments gets messy sometimes lol, and tbh the site's tagging isn't always reliable.
callis40 · 46-50, M
every country has the right to defend itself from attack. Hamas decided to launch rockets against Israel with no attempt to hit only military targets. Israel has the right to defend itself and take Hamas out.

i feel for the palestinian people who are being goverened by people who are hell bent on destroying Israel where as they should be making peace and helping their people out of poverty.

And dont forget after 9/11 america had the right to strike back.....
@Moon3624 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@BlueMetalChick *claps*
They are racist 😂 simple as that
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@LeopoldBloom sure whatever you want to say to justify the horror
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
Funny you bring up Auschwitz. Israeli lawmakers recently discussed the prospect of rounding up Palestinian civilians living near the occupation zone and putting them in, and I quote, "internment camps."

Now that certainly isn't something that a different group of people did in history, is it?
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Lust4Life · 26-30, F
@BlueMetalChick And the cycle keeps on going!
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Lust4Life Look, I'm an astronomer and not a war correspondent so this isn't exactly my wheelhouse to offer meaningful opinions, but as someone who has lived through a tremendous amount of war during my childhood, I can certainly tell you that the solution to the problem is not declaring, and I fucking quote, "war on the entire Palestinian people."
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
It’s Palestine always and forever. A land where Muslims Jews and Christians lived with equal rights together before the Zionist invasion.
You Are Occupying it
Anyone who sides with Israel supports
The death of children and innocent civilians Palestinians being treated like second class
And families in the middle of the night getting kicked out of their homes !!
I swear humans with no drop of humanity
AngelKrish · 26-30, M
Exactly 👍 Israel always helped my country like brother whenever we needed and they are good people. Golden heart 💛😊
Israel is best friends of friends and worst enemies for enemies.
@AngelKrish no because you had changed it after I read it 🙄
AngelKrish · 26-30, M
@InOtterWords I feels that it's not good way to talk with Friends..
" Did you read that or did you listen to speech" ..
So I changed above line...but content is same.
AngelKrish · 26-30, M
@InOtterWords hey..if you think I added the line below to my comment? 😮After you read my comments..
[quote] India has also urged both sides to “refrain from attempts to unilaterally change the existing status quo, including in East Jerusalem and its neighbourhood.” [/quote]
OggggO · 36-40, M
The Jewish people have a right to safety, made more urgent by the attempted extermination that killed so many of them while other countries still scorned or ignored them. What they don't have a right to is land that other people were already living in that was arbitrarily handed over to them by a colonial power that was itself occupying the land by force. They especially don't have the right to expand from there into neighboring sovereign countries against the wishes of those countries and the people living in them.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Lust4Life the fact you were not able to reply to everything I said and only managed to say that proves a lot
OggggO · 36-40, M
@Moon3624 I'm not sure you actually read what I wrote.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@OggggO sorry I misunderstood what you wrote
yes some Jewish people felt the need to have a nation so bad that made them invade a whole country enforcing their beliefs, where people already living in it already embracing diff beliefs including Judaism
And that is wrong
But no matter how much you tell them
They will not understand
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
Yes, Auschwitz was terrible as was Pol Pott's demolition in the 70's and the Hutus of the Tutsi' in the 90's.

But to say a Nuclear Power such as Israel is justified in using Heavy Handedness is ridiculous.

Just as ridiculous as the justification of bombing the offices of the sources of International coverage of these events.
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
@Lust4Life So you are defending the heavy-handedness?
Lust4Life · 26-30, F
@Zeusdelight Not at all! I'm defending Israel's right to exist! Why is it that no one condemns America for Afghanistan and Iraq, but the Israelis defend themselves against unprovoked attack gets such scorn! Or is it that 2001 was such a long time ago?
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
@Lust4Life You would have a very heated debate as to whether it is defence or aggression. You are defending a country that has been defying the United Nations and supported by the US.

Hardly, tenets of a just war.
Im annoyed that israel has to defends its right to defend itself
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Lust4Life I’m from the Middle East don’t tell me what I know 😂 Did you know that even the Christian Palestinians were killed and degraded by the Zionists israel ? Did you know that after the Zionist invasion the Christian population of Palestine decreased ? Did you know that there are many Christian Palestinians who protested for their simple rights ?
Isnt Jesus from Palestine too?
Even the Jews around the world who dont support Zionist came out and shamed them for what they are doing.
No religion justifies what the Zionist Israel is doing
Only ppl with no humanity support Israel
Lust4Life · 26-30, F
@Moon3624 We can't change the past only the future, looking backwards just means we can not stay on the road to a better place!
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Lust4Life your “past “ that continues till this day? Sweetheart in English it’s called “present”
AngelKrish · 26-30, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout This is chronology.👍
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
So you know jews were not just the only ones that were sent to the gas chambers in masses. So were Romanian gypsies, Czechoslovakians, Polish people, all gays and even anyone considered indigent.

Now look at what happened to Armenians in turkey in 1920, or even currently to Muslims in China right now!

Who did anything about them?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Lust4Life combine them then. Religion is not then only issue is my point anyway.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@DeWayfarer Thanks for acknowledging us Gypsies, we seldom ever get any remembrance for the Porajmos, or if we do, it's celebrated. If I had a dollar for every time someone told me "Hitler killed the right people."
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick mom was one of the lucky ones. I believe we have had this conversation though before! 😔
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Lust4Life · 26-30, F
@LookingForTheSummer Yes, I see why you said that!
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@LookingForTheSummer humans since the beginning of time have always had the urge to worship something
Now and even billions of years ago
Name it
Stars rock moon sun god in heaven etc
It’s inevitable.
And I don’t think most religions call for hatred and war.
It’s the blinded individuals.
To relate violence to a certain religion
Is the same thing as relating violence to black people or drugs to Hispanic people.
And don’t tell me that atheists are “peaceful “ because I have met many people who were as violent about their opinions as religious people.
And many wars were started due the want of more land and money only.
I think the only messed up thing about the world is us and our constant generalization.
The generalized ideologies about religions and societies we keep passing down from a generation to another
Is the reason we can’t live despite our differences
Skilllickous · 51-55, M
so sad. whats happening. to this. world
blady. Religion fights 🤬🤬
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@LeopoldBloom Obliterated? By what? The most powerful weapons Hamas possesses are outdated rockets. How the hell are they going to obliterate Israel when Israel has a world class military?

They can't invest in beach hotels. They're not even allowed to connect their own buildings to a municipal water supply or the power grid. If they install solar panels, they're taken away. You're gonna make a beach hotel with no running water and no electricity?
@BlueMetalChick I said if Israel disarmed, they would be obliterated. If the military capabilities were reversed, what do you think would happen? Israel is showing more restraint than their opponents would.

Israel pulled every Jewish settler out of Gaza in 2005 and withdrew its military. The blockade wasn't imposed until two years later. Instead of development, they focused on building tunnels and rockets to continue their quest for a judenrein Middle East. The Palestinians deserve to live in peace, but so do the Israelis.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@LeopoldBloom "It would be possible for Palestine to obliterate Israel if Israel were to completely get rid of its entire military and all of their weapons and personnel."
Well thanks for that one, professor. That's like saying the Taliban could conquer the USA if we just assumed that tomorrow morning, the entire American military and everything and everyone in it were to disappear off the face of the Earth.

It's impossible to focus on development if you're not allowed to do things like access a public water supply or power grid. What are you gonna develop? Beach bungalows?

[quote]The Palestinians deserve to live in peace, but so do the Israelis.[/quote]
Yeah, that's fair. You'll get not a single note of disagreement from me on that one.
Lust4Life · 26-30, F
There are lots of Zionists who need to visit Auschwitz and see where their POLICIES will lead!
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
Jews were the first victims of the Nazis.
Palestinians are the second.

: Albert Einstein
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Harriet03 yes sadly Jews became the thing they once hated
BigAssLeech · 31-35, M
"Might seem heavy handed" is a weird way of putting it...
Lust4Life · 26-30, F
@BigAssLeech How should I put it? What about the First Nations of America and the Whites??
I have visited Auschwitz and Birkenau. It is a truly horrific place. It is heartbreaking to see what happened when Europe turned its back in humanity.

However, this is a poor attempt to misguide and mislead the events happening in Palestine/Israel.

What is happening now is about occupation of land, not just religion. Jerusalem is a holy place for Jews, Muslims and Christians. The three faiths all stem from Abraham.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@InOtterWords true but noo the Zionist Jews feel superior and feel it belongs only to them
SW-User
White ppl act like nothing worse than the Holocaust happened read a goddamn history book lmaooo
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@SW-User the problem is Palestinians aren’t the ones who did the Holocaust 😂
And funnier how Europe decided to get rid of the Jews so they threw them in the Middle East
And the funniest thing how the Zionists are doing to Palestinians exactly what hitler did to them
SW-User
@Moon3624 bro i get you but idgaf if I wanted to argue about palestine id go to twitter
@Moon3624 The Palestinian leadership of the time supported Hitler.
SW-User
From what I understand, Christian should be saying Thou Shalt Not Kill. So that goes for both sides of the fence.
Lust4Life · 26-30, F
@SW-User Christians as individuals would say that! The only man who has preached restraint is the Pope, everyone else is looking to see if a profit might be made!
SW-User
@Lust4Life I'm not Christian but I like the 'love thy enemy'. Where is the love dear? Its lying buried beneath the rubble on both sides of the fence. 😔🙏
btchstfu · F
LMAO (LAUGHING MY ASS OFF)
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
You are conflating and twisting.

Talking against Israel is not anti-Semitic and this is the BIGGEST lie you have sucked up and are now vomiting out.

Stop it.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@JaggedLittlePill true, god bless your amazing heart !!

 
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