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Why do you think some of these middle East countries like Quatar, Kuwait, UAE etc have very less crime statistics?

And it's not coz they go underreported. Even stealing is excessively low. HDI is very very high. I think it's coz of their laws, severe punishment.
Spica · 31-35, F
They are rich. Also the big/tribal family structure causes them to be very morally responsible because they care a lot about their image/reputation as a whole.
uncleshawn · 41-45, M
@Spica Which country has a disparity in social classes?
Spica · 31-35, F
@uncleshawn KSA in comparison to the three aforementioned countries.
uncleshawn · 41-45, M
@Spica Yah, you're right. Huuuuuge money at the very tip top (way more than the other countries) , and then a wide variety of people from rich to middle to poor to beggars.
Gangstress · 41-45, F
Combination of that and they have been brought up to respect.

We went to Dubai a few years back, bought gold, I accidently left it on a bench near the swimming pool - came back 3 hours later, still there.

Good parenting combined with decent morals and standards do indeed pave a way.
@Gangstress Must beautiful but very strict.
Gangstress · 41-45, F
yeh its not that bad actually, but each to their own.@littlepuppywantanewlife
@Gangstress is it true the king donates Ferrari? 😅
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
Countries like uae ,Kuwait ,Saudi Arabia ,Qatar
In the gulf in general actually do have low crime rate
Especially United Arab Emirates
In dubai You can leave your home door open with no fear
And as a woman walk at midnight like it’s day
@Moon3624 I noticed that on the you tube vids I saw about everyday life there. Don't roll a joint in public either.

But in Pakistan and India, women/kids get abused/neglected in shocking ways and often no justice thereafter.

In countries the USA has whacked out militarily in recent times, there are shocking (and totally understandable) levels of self hatred and personal despair. Then the housecat might get neglected. See what I mean? And family members might hurt one another and make excuses for themselves...

Look deeper. Compassion required most in places where it seems least necessary.

China is rising and proud of itself. Might swallow the USA soon
And they beat their stray dogs to death and then people eat them in restaurants
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Elevatorpitches what does Pakistan and India and everything you said have to do with my comment 😂
I literally don’t understand the point of your reply to my comment
@Moon3624 well I'm stupid that way.

I beg your pardon

Thank u Danser. U at least know compassion!
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
I suspect it just doesn't get reported. All reporters other than Al Jazeera are excluded in those societies. And Al Jazeera is closely watched so they cow toe around sensitive areas.

Always wondered why BBC rarely says anything negative about those countries in those countries! Only outside of them.
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Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@DeWayfarer now we are talking about science?🤔 our main subject
was how the crime rate of United Arab Emirates is low
But you suddenly decided to jump to freedom of speech then science?😂
No matter how much you try to deny it, United Arab Emirates has low crime and is a safe country. Dubai is a very safe advanced and a beautiful tourist city and so is the country in general.
No point in continuing this, have a good day
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Moon3624 [quote]Quatar, Kuwait, UAE etc have very less crime statistics?[/quote]
More than one country!

And I am sticking to my original point about freedom of the press!

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Previous deleted reply was intended for another post!
Might be true. And on a deeper level, these places have had the heart whacked out of them so much through the centuries that people know better on a personal level how to behave.

In America (usa) as times are getting waaaay harder and more cruel, the personal crime figures are dropping steadily, even now, with some exceptions re: murder (and mass shootings)

But u know its a "thing" I perceive. People get scared of the truth and don't personally wanna add to the big picture, if its getting uglier.

My take anyway.

Thank you AGAIN Danser. See SWeeps its not so much about being "right" as long as we can try to show LOVE...
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
I think that the punishment being excessive may have something to do with the low crime. I mean, getting 4 fingers or a whole hand chopped off would be a pretty good deterrent. Being stoned to death, being beheaded. Being hanged. We have stupid laws, possession of drugs, doesn't matter if it is a small amount or half a kilo, there is mandatory sentencing designed to combat the "drug war". If someone destroys a wall with graffiti, they get a small fine, do the same thing in Singapore and you get caned, a public flogging. There isn't much graffiti in Singapore. In some ways, we could learn a lesson from these countries.
uncleshawn · 41-45, M
No one knows the true crime stats, but they do seem quite safe. I have walked the city streets late at night in 3 Middle East countries without fear. (But no different than the vast majority of places in the U.S., where I also walk streets at night without fear.)

There are some things people outside these places don't know. For example, most serious crime by the nationals/citizens is dealt with by tribal means, or by tribal influence within the government systems.
Elessar · 26-30, M
I don't know where you live, but here Europe those indicators have been going lower and lower over time, even without draconian measures.

When a similar theocratic society was in place (< 1700), last time I checked the criminality wasn't null, all the opposite actually.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
three reasons

1) Don't get reported
2) Severe Penalties
3) Many flee the country rather than face the penalty
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
there is no forgiveness for debt, no declaring bankruptcy... you default on a loan or can't pay taxes, you go to prison...

so many leave instead
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@wildbill83 Thousands of debtors are arrested and jailed each year in America because they owe money. Literally that happens in every country😂 And actually a lot of people here do forgive for debts and people in society even help and the government itself chips in. Not only United Arab Emirates
But even Saudi Arabia
I’ll give one example ,
Saudi Arabia launched another platform for charity
Called “ehsan”
One of the charity options is to donate to the people in debt
And they give you the situation of every person so you can donate
This is what the site looks like :


This platform helped a lot of people , in Ramadan a man with kids went to jail with the debt of 5 million The Saudi community all chipped in
And within 2 days they managed to gather the 5 million and he was released to his family.

Not only that but even in the religion of Islam it’s encouraged to forgive and help with debt
Quoting from the Quran :
{Who spend [in the cause of Allah] during ease and hardship and who restrain anger and who pardon the people - and Allah loves the doers of good;} 3:134
{o forgive graciously.}18:85
{so whoever forgives and makes amends, so his reward is upon Allah; }

Im not saying gulf countries are perfect. No country in this world is perfect every country has pros and cons.
But definitely gulf countries have been advancing and have so much beauty in them
I don’t get why you just can’t accept that “some” of them especially United Arab Emirates are very safe and have low crime.
That’s proven when it comes to statics
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@wildbill83 + countries like United Arab Emirates and Saudi have free health care + free education including university. Not only that but University Students in Saudi (I believe uae too) receive monthly allowance from the government while usa students are drowned in student debt after college/uni.
And if you look at the data on google actually usa has most debtors
[c=359E00]because they are not america[/c]
@danser [c=359E00]i'm Muslim, i dislike america[/c]
carpediem · 61-69, M
@YukikoAmagi blocked for being an idiot.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@YukikoAmagi sorry that happened to you! I truly am!

I respect your opinion even if I disagree with it. This american values freedom of speech for all even if it's contrary to my personal beliefs.
Death penalties
@Moon3624 ok. I thought they were punished by stoned to death.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
In usa hanging, electrocution, the gas chamber, firing squad, and lethal injection.
@littlepuppywantanewlife
What about that? 🤔
In Saudi it’s by sword fast and swift
No torture like electrocution for example.
By stones that’s rare
@Moon3624 I don't know much about usa as well. I am not an American.
Human1000 · M
Do they cut off hands for stealing?
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
@Spica When I lived in Bahrain we used to see Friday amputations on Saudi TV.
uncleshawn · 41-45, M
@Spica It's rare in Saudi. They chop heads on a regular basis, but body parts no. The chopping stuff is usually for foreigners, as well. (Big turnouts to watch the beheadings, too. Entertainment in KSA.)
Spica · 31-35, F
@uncleshawn Yeah, but it's still a thing.
Beatbox34 · 31-35, M
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/saudi-woman-sentenced-to-10-lashes-for-driving/2011/09/27/gIQAqB9z1K_blog.html
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Beatbox34 in any country breaking the law leads to punishment. Every country has it own laws and must be followed.
Islam doesn’t prohibit women from driving but Saudi because of “culture” didn’t allow it and then realized their mistake and allowed it.
Women driving is allowed in Saudi Arabia for years now.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
I disagree that it's due to Draconian and harsh punishments. Finland and Iceland have low crime rates too, yet their justice system is quite mild compared to the rest of Europe and the US.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@danser that's irrelevant to my point. My point is we can't say crime is necessarily low in gulf countries due to Draconian measures.

Lots of factors affect crime, poverty for example is a huge cause of crime and we can see this for example in Eastern Europe that's poor, high on crime and is not Muslim in the vast majority of cases.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
I agree with you a lot of factors play a role in this
But haters don’t want to accept any achievements coming from Muslim/Arabic countries😂 especially how advanced the gulf countries have started to become Lately.
They want people to always have the negative hatred picture of the Middle East
@basilfawlty89
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Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Stereoguy sorry I misunderstood your comment , I thought you said they don’t have crime because they don’t document it.
I agree arabic gulf countries have low crime rate because they don’t tolerate criminals
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