Well, there are a couple of generalities going on here. The women who complain about being objectified are not always the ones dressing in an objectifying manner. There are plenty of women perfectly happy when being sexual objects.

But it comes down to this - while we all dress to impress or entice others at times, a person should be able to look the way they like and not automatically open themselves up to judgment.

The sidewalk is not a red carpet on which women walk so that men can offer their unsolicited judgments. The local Starbucks where you wait in line is not intended by most women to be a pick-up spot based on their hair, clothes, etcetera. A stoplight does not indicate speed dating time for a woman.

Sometimes, a woman simply wants to dress in a way that makes her feel alluring and confident. She should have that freedom without worry of remarks, propositions, violations or anything else.

bro stfu

I agree with you 100% some women are simply attention seekers they wear revealing/provoking clothes to catch attention in the hope of compliments and flirt but at the same time they wouldn't like to be called as sluts..double standards or what's the word, hypocrite.
There is a huge difference in dressing up sexy yet smart and outright sluttish like you described.

Continuing the incel crusade I see.

Tight pants are practical. I'd dare to say in most cases it has nothing to do with the desire to look sexy, it's to feel comfortable when it's cold.
What kind of woman wears shirts that expose her nipples in public? Most don't. And if you have issues with it in homely environment then the problem is in you not in the woman. Nipples are a completely natural, normal part of a woman's body. Not extensions like push-up bras that try to draw attention. If they make you see women as objects then the problem is in you, not the women.

Id only complain if i got attention from the wrong people.

Everyone, man or woman should be able to dress how they like without others objectifying them. If a womn choises not to wear a bra for instance under a tight dress.... it doesnt automatically follow she wants men to slobber ather has she walks down the street. She may just not find bras comfortable.

But....i am a believer in dressing appropriately for the situation. I wouldnt wear a tight fitting low cut tiny dress and heels to do my weekly shop, or wear my gym gear at a restaurant. Some do....and its thats how they are comfortable thats up to them......some people really dont think fir a second that what they wearis anybodies business but their own.

Its a real shame though some people at the sight on a flash of thigh or cleavage turn into leering creeps who make others feel uncomfortable in their own skin.

Well in the case of tight yoga pants it's mostly cos they wear them to do yoga, not to be stared at.

There's so much wrong with this post.

Look this seems an anti women post: not liking women makes u gay doesn't it?

I can’t speak for all women I will speak for myself , I’m confident in my body , So I show it off because It makes me feel good. I have my own style and most of my style is revealing ones because I like rave wear and cyberdog , that’s how most of my type of style clothes are made. I wear them if it’s really hot outside , no point covering up everything if I’m over heated. Sometimes I don’t even realise I’m showing much. I’m a pole dancer , I have to wear clothes that don’t cover me up so I can grip to it and yes to also attract people to watch my shows , I still require respect such as no touching me inappropriately. With the boots most of my boots are what you described, It’s just my style , I’ve always worn big boots , they just go with what I wear. I wear dresses often too and most dresses these days are made tight or to show boobs. And clothes aren’t consent. It works both ways , men dress up or show stuff too. We don’t go off like wild animals when we see them.

Not gonna lie, this is why we...

1) Are armed and/or
2) Have an armed companion (at least one)

For when things go wrong, as @PaleandPolluted mentioned.

Of course, it's better to be armed and not need to unsheathe your weapon/s, than it is to be in a situation where being armed would likely mean your survival, and not have any armaments.

I think it's because there's a fantasy of objectification being romantic and sometimes it's the complete opposite. I'm not sure if women don't want to be objectified deep down, being objectified means being desired so I think that every woman wants that and I think men like being objectified by women.

But... in real life when objectification happens, sex is really bad because the man is focused on himself when sex actually happens. Kind of like the equivalent to the "you put your D in and thrust for a bit and that's it." You realize that the majority of women don't have orgasms right?

What I'm saying is, there's a right and wrong way to be objectified. I think deep down women want to be but the men who do that are simply bad fucks and out to use you, there's no intimacy there.

So women dress like that because they do want to be desired but I think there's another way to go about it.

And also some women want to be looked at but not touched, that's their business as well.

This is point I agree. They dress provocative and expect not to be seen. Not saying that they deserve it but when dress like that be prepared males are gonna watch.


They are hypocrite. If you like being flirted and sexy slut, you won't bothered when men cat calling you.
They just want attention.

[quote]For the record I do not believe nor am I calling for women to not dress sexy or the way they want. Just frustrated with their reactions to men they come across when they dress that way.[/quote]

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Then don't fucking look!

I think we just want it both ways, to be honest. I dress sexy just because it's been ingrained into me for the last 40 or so years...and I'm happy with that..

I guess you can equate it to maths...you mention maths to someone and they'll say 'Oh, I hate division..' or 'I love subtraction'.....that is not, obviously, the be all and end all of mathematics yet people tend to point out the one thing...

Same with personalities.....We can dress sexy yet be intelligent....but people tend to find the one thing and stick to that...

*sigh* So just down to people really not thinking things through and properly explaining themselves...

My take on it all...

SJD xx

So, what you're saying is that if you happen to be on vacation in Europe, Australia, Greece, Cyprus, New Zealand, Hidden Lake (Whistler, Canada), anywhere along the California Coast, between Montara Beach and Carmel, the European section of the swimming pool of any Las Vegas hotel, you think it's OK to ogle women? and this is what they really want you to do?

Many women have felt they were not being respected, whatever they were wearing. I've noticed that the more you create gender ghettoes in a social group, the less respectful men will be.

Another point...as its proven here time and time again....some men objectify all women...even old, chubby dumpy ones like me that keeps herself covered over.....so ...is that my fault? Is that me in the wrong....or is it just true sone guys cannot help themselves at all.....
Yup....

ghostofapu well i am sorry to say men will be men and if they dress provocatively what do they expect long as it remains as looks nothing more that is

I agree with you to a point. It's ok to look. But you shouldn't be staring at them for a long time.