Do you know how rare it is in nature for an animal to take on an offspring that is not its own? It does not happen often, you can see this with humans as well. Thousands of babies/kids are put up for adoption but never find a family. Many facing abuse within the system. They struggle to make it once they age out of the system. Many run into issues with the law, homelessness, and finding a job.
In nature, it is common for the mother to rid herself of any unwanted babies. Fortunately abortion gives us the opportunity to terminate the offspring before it can realize death is upon it. Any other animal will eat, kill, or abandon its unwanted offspring after birth. It is not natural to keep the unwanted babies around if you can not handle motherhood for any reason.
Before you say we can’t compare ourselves to animals, I must say we “ain’t nothing but mammals”. This is a universal thing across the animal kingdom, it effects us.
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I have been loved and I find my life to be very fulfilling lol nice guess to make me look like the bad person.
Again, making everyone happy, doesn’t mean he is happy. How many suicide victims family can say their loved one made everyone happy and was their light? Most can but that person was still suffering.
You can say that about anyone but you can not miss what you do not know.
Don’t try and evade the question. I described love, now describe your joy.
My opinion is that it’s never ok to kill unless you’re defending your life. Seems reckless and barbaric to kill out of selfish convenience. In the case of rape and the morning after pill should solve those rare instances. When I say rare I’m referring to the small percentage of women who want abortions in those instances.
I’d be interested to see some data on the number of people who are using legitimate preventive measures who then resort to abortion. We disagree on this issue and probably others but I still think you’re beautiful and an amazing lady ❤️@MorbidCynic
@BryanSunshine [quote] Kids don't ruin parents life. It's the other way around. [/quote] And this too, would equally make a good case for abortion rights.
Yes there are people who will try to be the best parent if they can't do abortion. And some will succeed. And some wont. And then there are those who wont be this way, who wont even try.
"You’re defending your life from a kid that will ruin it." And you're defending the kid's life from a parent, or the high abuse foster care system, that would ruin it.
The teen mom's life is held back, and so also the quality of life for the child. When she finishes her education and career is settled then that might be a more preferable time for her, and more preferable for the child.
Sure there are no guarantees on anything. But you wouldn't be so foolish to choose to walk in a dark alley in the middle of the night in a high crime neighborhood versus walking in your own neighborhoid that you've chosen to live at because the crime rate is low. Sure you can still actually end up safe in the former and be attacked in the latter, but you wouldn't increase your risk unless you're a masochist.
@12345abc So you’re against war unless your country is threatened with total annihilation? If your country was invaded, and no one would be killed if you surrendered, you’d be OK with that, even if it meant that you might have to move, speak a different language, or follow a different religion?
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I am specifically concerned with the act passed in Alabama that does not provide special language for rape and incest victims. If a 15 year old is raped by her father and becomes pregnant SHE is being punished for his crime...same with a rape victim. Also, in most rape cases, doctors provide the victim the option of the morning after pill...will the doctor go to prison for this???
@Pinkstarburst She's not the only one being punished for the crime, so would be incest child who's going to suffer through the effects of having people with the same genetics make a child and an unstable home life.
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I'm just amazed at how cold you sound towards unborn children. It's shocking. How about this. Let's do a survey of all the kids in the foster care system today, and of all the adults who aged out of foster care w/o having been adopted. Let's ask them one simple question:
[b][center]Do you wish you had been aborted before birth?[/center][/b]
If we can get 51% of them to answer "Yes", then I will change my mind on this topic.
@DunDunDun Agree to disagree. I think abortion is a monumental, heavy decision that will leave emotional scars for the rest of one's life. Sometimes, sadly, it may be a necessary evil. Should it be against the law? As much as I hate to say it, no. But, imo, it should be used as an extreme last resort, and never as a means of birth-control after the fact.
That's my opinion, and I'm very much aware that others will disagree.
@BryanSunshine That actually is basically how I think of it, I don't see it as not a big deal, just something that isn't immoral and is sometimes needed, but it would be nice if no one ever had to get one
I believe women should have ultimate control over their reproductive Rights. However I believe it is immoral to terminate pregnancies late term or once the child can feel.
However I don't judge those who do it it's not my place. I will never say that a woman HAS to carry a child regardless of the situation or how she feels. I believe that this is an issue in which neither side will be satisfied.
@TheunderdogofNY What if the fetus is so deformed, it won’t survive long after birth? It’s not like women have abortions at 8 ½ months for trivial reasons.
@LeopoldBloom doesn’t matter what I think. Ultimately the woman and the doctor involved will hopefully make the best choice. Morally I’m opposed to abortions but I understand there are cases when it’s consideration is warranted.
@TheunderdogofNY And that's a very mature position. As long as you vote for politicians who share those views, I don't have a problem with that. I'm sure you're aware of the push to outlaw so-called "late term abortions." Even now, there are only a few places in the US where you can get one, unless the woman is bleeding out and in danger of imminent death. But if the fetus doesn't have a brain, you're fucked - you have to travel and pay as much as $20,000 for the procedure.
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If we are going to compare ourselves with other animals, then you have to search why animals kill their young specifically those with high parental instincts.
Is it a lack of resources? are the young ill? ask yourself is that animal eating their young for the same reasons ppl abort?
Since you mentioned adoption, i'd like to ask you a question- do you think an adoptive mother can love its child as much as a biological mother could? just want to know your oppinion
@MorbidCynic I don't intend to say that we should be proud or ashamed of it I'm just merely stating and trying to understand,
nor am I saying that animals are detected but that WE are detecting ourselves and i know that they do feel those emotions in fact I'm getting in that state of preferring animals to humans due to our negative traits that they lack.
With all this being said I'm just trying to understand and reason all this you know?
@MorbidCynic Its not even about that, I got your views, and since they are not the same as mine we can be more skeptical and put to question what the other says I think thats one way to open your mind to new things/ideas and maybe even get a better/ broader understanding on the topic at hand.
But anyways was nice talking to you.:)
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I had this discussion with a coworker of mine that called me a “baby killer” for telling her I support abortions. I was like, “Our periods are potential babies, I’m not going to consider myself a baby killer for not staying pregnant my whole life making sure I have no period by continually having babies nonstop.” The bias towards our species is ridiculous while we don’t blink an eye in killing other living things as plants and animals. The only living being who doesn’t kill other living beings to survive are plants. Plus at birth we are forced to adapt to this life where we are only wanted conditionally if we are ass kissers and dick/clit suckers to those around us. I love the picture posted on this. We apathetically due away and ignore the homeless and those who bring us more pain than pleasure, so being against abortion is hypocritical when we “abort” anyone in our lives we find burdensome; and this goes for those claiming to be pro-life as well. Personally I think abortion is saving a life... from the agony and pain of being forced to adapt to a body, mind, and world not chosen by them.
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I wish your parents were ;) maybe you should have done the same to your worthless child. He would be better off without a pathetic father like yourself, @WeighedDown
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Herself, with an honest evaluation. For example, I am not suitable to be a mother. I would leave the child once I get too stressed out and I hate dedicating myself to other people. I realize this and understand the faults I refuse to change. @BryanSunshine
[i]"I would leave the child once I get too stressed out and I hate dedicating myself to other people. I realize this and understand the faults I refuse to change."[/i]
Actually, animal mothers in nature often will care for a baby that’s not it’s own. Spend some time looking for it to be true rather than looking for it to not be true. You will see. Motherly instinct takes over in nature often
It’s not very common, it does happen, just not that often. An abandoned baby will most likely die lol @bert199
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Now that is an honest opinion. I want all Democrats to adopt your position and if the American people were fair and honest Nancy Pelosi should be our next President.
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