Do you know how rare it is in nature for an animal to take on an offspring that is not its own? It does not happen often, you can see this with humans as well. Thousands of babies/kids are put up for adoption but never find a family. Many facing abuse within the system. They struggle to make it once they age out of the system. Many run into issues with the law, homelessness, and finding a job.
In nature, it is common for the mother to rid herself of any unwanted babies. Fortunately abortion gives us the opportunity to terminate the offspring before it can realize death is upon it. Any other animal will eat, kill, or abandon its unwanted offspring after birth. It is not natural to keep the unwanted babies around if you can not handle motherhood for any reason.
Before you say we can’t compare ourselves to animals, I must say we “ain’t nothing but mammals”. This is a universal thing across the animal kingdom, it effects us.
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If we are going to compare ourselves with other animals, then you have to search why animals kill their young specifically those with high parental instincts.
Is it a lack of resources? are the young ill? ask yourself is that animal eating their young for the same reasons ppl abort?
Since you mentioned adoption, i'd like to ask you a question- do you think an adoptive mother can love its child as much as a biological mother could? just want to know your oppinion
@MorbidCynic What are some examples that are close to human reasons though? the reason I don't think we can compare ourselves to animals is due to our developed moral and rational traits
Animals don't think about if it's right or wrong, they don't have to, they just act on primal instincts, which is why almost everything they do is natural. But I don't think that, things that are natural to them is necessarily natural to us.
Yeah, that makes sense, do you think love is just a means through which survival is protected? what do you think about love besides parental love?
We are animals, we just for some think we are better. People get abortions for many reasons, mostly the incapability to care for an offspring. Finances, stress, the child being ill/disabled. These are all the same reasons others animal do it as well.
I believe we all act on primal instinct, we are just stuck up about it. Our species would be much better if we accepted our primal ways instead of fighting against nature.
Love is based on the desire to reproduce. There is no love outside of basic biology.’
Morality is too subjective and shouldn’t be enforced by law. I don’t see a moral issue in abortion. Do you not see how this creates discourse? @celine211
Laws should be based around people having freedom. I obviously disagree with the idea of current government if you can’t tell. I don’t feel like linking you to other posts as well tho. @celine211
@MorbidCynic To what extent tho, Absolute freedom? because freedom of one thing interferes with another type of freedom then how is the law going to decide which prevails the other? which is the RIGHT kind of freedom
Yes they do. If an animal in a pack keeps killing those in their group, they eventually get taken down by the others. Threats are removed from any organization. Animals kill other animals for survival. Just like humans do. We kill other in war, for the sake of our safety, just like an animals. We send serial killers away from the same reason animals send away dangerous members of their pack away. We kill for food, the same way other animals do. We are the same. Just stuck up about it. @celine211
@MorbidCynic Maybe it's our evolution then, maybe not differentiating us from them but our situations from theirs, man-made innovation getting in the way of natural behavior, putting us in a situation where we didn't have to think about before and forcing us to question what is our natural behavior.
We are the same in some cases cause we are animals and we evolved from them but we're causing the detachment as well not because we are stuck up but because we are using traits that other species don't possess to progress leading to more evolution
I feel like what you speak of is the downfall our species, not something to be proud of. It only brings pain to deny nature.
Animals are not detached. It’s so funny when humans say that as if other animal don’t feel sadness, depression, or empathy. Despite all of those emotions being a proven fact and observed by scientists. @celine211
@MorbidCynic I don't intend to say that we should be proud or ashamed of it I'm just merely stating and trying to understand,
nor am I saying that animals are detected but that WE are detecting ourselves and i know that they do feel those emotions in fact I'm getting in that state of preferring animals to humans due to our negative traits that they lack.
With all this being said I'm just trying to understand and reason all this you know?
@MorbidCynic Its not even about that, I got your views, and since they are not the same as mine we can be more skeptical and put to question what the other says I think thats one way to open your mind to new things/ideas and maybe even get a better/ broader understanding on the topic at hand.
But anyways was nice talking to you.:)
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