twistedrope · 26-30, M
Imo life is just the means to make ones decisions. That is why a life decided by others is hallow and empty. With agency, comes responsability. With thoughtfulness, comes reprecusions. This is such a way that man, beast and every matter of mineral or bacteria comes to find meaning through choosing how to act when presented with something during its life.
That is a life lived fully. However, the words themselves provide little help or context when spoken as most people simply aren't ready.
In more holistic terms, meaning or why we are here could be the question lurking in the mind of someone who feels they have "missed out" and is a mental stress being presented and explained through a philosophical lense. Really, it is the minds response to stress and the question is just its best guess as to tje source.
It could be a creative work, experiencing love or positivity during inevitable suffering as viktor frankl says. I think that is the most practocal useable explanation.
Not really a response directly as I just wished to share my thoughts selfishly. I think differently to the above and wished to say it as the question of "why are we here" and meaning is contextual and changes whatever framework should be used dependant on situation or inquiry. I do not believe it is "largley incoherent" in any fashion or nonsensical in the slightest. It is a very real question from a sensation, sometimes even born from a felt holllow sesnsation felt. It also has with it many real answers in many different time periods and peoples... Take your pick and see what feels right I suppose. If it feels right, retesting never gets old.
That is a life lived fully. However, the words themselves provide little help or context when spoken as most people simply aren't ready.
In more holistic terms, meaning or why we are here could be the question lurking in the mind of someone who feels they have "missed out" and is a mental stress being presented and explained through a philosophical lense. Really, it is the minds response to stress and the question is just its best guess as to tje source.
It could be a creative work, experiencing love or positivity during inevitable suffering as viktor frankl says. I think that is the most practocal useable explanation.
Not really a response directly as I just wished to share my thoughts selfishly. I think differently to the above and wished to say it as the question of "why are we here" and meaning is contextual and changes whatever framework should be used dependant on situation or inquiry. I do not believe it is "largley incoherent" in any fashion or nonsensical in the slightest. It is a very real question from a sensation, sometimes even born from a felt holllow sesnsation felt. It also has with it many real answers in many different time periods and peoples... Take your pick and see what feels right I suppose. If it feels right, retesting never gets old.
Yourwildestdreams · 51-55, M
🧐 I tend to believe by allowing our beliefs to define who we are , could only lead us to more complex and multifaceted issue.
Sure they can provide a sense of purpose, belonging, and identity, and can be a source of comfort, strength, and motivation.
But on the other hand, allowing beliefs to define us too rigidly can be limiting and restrictive.
They can lead to us having a narrow and inflexible worldview, making it difficult to consider alternative perspectives or to adapt to changing circumstances.
Thus only leading to conflicts with others who hold different beliefs, and can create divisions and barriers that can be difficult to bridge.
😀 “c'est la vie“ and "que sera sera"
Sure they can provide a sense of purpose, belonging, and identity, and can be a source of comfort, strength, and motivation.
But on the other hand, allowing beliefs to define us too rigidly can be limiting and restrictive.
They can lead to us having a narrow and inflexible worldview, making it difficult to consider alternative perspectives or to adapt to changing circumstances.
Thus only leading to conflicts with others who hold different beliefs, and can create divisions and barriers that can be difficult to bridge.
😀 “c'est la vie“ and "que sera sera"
Ferric67 · M
Life
Is a series of lessons
that
We can learn from…
Experiences
It’s about the journey, not the destination
Growth that may come if it
I’m not a big believer that there is a grand puppeteer looking to be our judge, jury and executioner
The gift is for us to experience the travel,
Our instinct, is to spread our DNA
and
Put our next generation in the best possible place position for survival
(It’s not so much that we are failing that, it’s more like the select few who have the means are pulling those strings)
Have gratitude
and
Appreciation for the here and now
because this is very transient
and
It will go by quick
Just take it all in and enjoy the ride
Is a series of lessons
that
We can learn from…
Experiences
It’s about the journey, not the destination
Growth that may come if it
I’m not a big believer that there is a grand puppeteer looking to be our judge, jury and executioner
The gift is for us to experience the travel,
Our instinct, is to spread our DNA
and
Put our next generation in the best possible place position for survival
(It’s not so much that we are failing that, it’s more like the select few who have the means are pulling those strings)
Have gratitude
and
Appreciation for the here and now
because this is very transient
and
It will go by quick
Just take it all in and enjoy the ride
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Ferric67 · M
@Pambie the goal of any species is to ensure the survival of the subsequent generation....but, yes, that goal can certainly be specific to the individual.
I, for one, have no children...nor do I plan on having any
So, it's not my goal either
But, the species itself
In order for it to live....it has to guarrantee the survival of the F1 generation
I, for one, have no children...nor do I plan on having any
So, it's not my goal either
But, the species itself
In order for it to live....it has to guarrantee the survival of the F1 generation
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
After reading that I'm wondering if your cat is actually so untroubled, or perhaps she is much deeper than you think.
Pambie · 22-25, F
walabby · M
I totally agree. Included into those experiences, though, is the experience of beliefs. How would we know the experience of experiencing silly beliefs unless we actually did that? XD
I'm probably being a little facetious here.. ? :)
I'm probably being a little facetious here.. ? :)
RedBaron · M
First, that’s too long and rambling to read.
Second, nobody needs to judge and decide for anyone else what matters and what doesn’t. Speak for yourself.
Second, nobody needs to judge and decide for anyone else what matters and what doesn’t. Speak for yourself.
in10RjFox · M
Clash of beliefs or clash of knowledge?
Isn't life being loved by the way it is allowed by the past ? Is truth to be known or believed ? If it has to be believed, then it can't be true.. right?
Isn't life being loved by the way it is allowed by the past ? Is truth to be known or believed ? If it has to be believed, then it can't be true.. right?
SomeMichGuy · M
One's beliefs inevitably define one, else they are just notions, not beliefs truly held.
Pambie · 22-25, F
@SomeMichGuy Beliefs may to a large extent determine our actions, but I hardly think they actually define who we are, because who we are is what doesn't change over time (unlike beliefs about the world, which change a lot).
SomeMichGuy · M
@Pambie Actually, who we are can and does change, more for some than others.
Else we'd not have emergent disabling things like PTSD, some phobias, etc.
The integrated experiences along our paths can definitely affect us. The one thing Freud definitely got right is that initial experiences can have an outsized impact on who we are by giving us a boost or a barrier from whuch to go forth on our path--a positive initial value for the integral, or a negative one.
Else we'd not have emergent disabling things like PTSD, some phobias, etc.
The integrated experiences along our paths can definitely affect us. The one thing Freud definitely got right is that initial experiences can have an outsized impact on who we are by giving us a boost or a barrier from whuch to go forth on our path--a positive initial value for the integral, or a negative one.
masterofyou · 70-79, M
Do you even know what you're talking about?????????????
Pambie · 22-25, F
'Somemichguy' responded with a laugh emoji. Why? Come on, explain yourself here.
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There's not much time left in the world. It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.
@Pambie Is that where it's from? I heard a homeless guy shouting it.
Pambie · 22-25, F
@deadinternet Yes, I've actually seen that film (too violent though), and it's the scene where the young boy (Connor) is getting depressed, they're in the desert somewhere, and Schwarzenegger says something like, "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves", and Connor responds with something like, "Yeah, that really sucks".
@Pambie The homeless guy also said to some guy, "You're discharged, Sarge."