Do You Believe Her?

@NativeOregonian You know this for a fact, or you just assume they did? He hasn’t been stripped of his titles.

@Carissimi Andrews duties have been stripped, however while looking for the article, it had shown that military leaders are calling for his military titles to be stripped, that is what I misheard, I stand corrected on that part. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/prince-andrew-summoned-to-buckingham-palace-by-queen-and-stripped-of-royal-duties/ar-BBX55GJ

@NativeOregonian Yes, and I think it’s going too far. At present, he has committed no crime. Has not been arrested or charged with any crime, and yet the man is being destroyed for the say so of one woman, who just happened to be old enough to consent.

@DudeistPriest Thank you for sharing this.

@Carissimi All of you rape culture apologists are just as sick and twisted as those who do the actual rape itself.

@Carissimi You're welcome. Although I must say that some of the damage that it incurred on society is that us men no longer trust women. I know that's harsh to say but yeah, I don't trust women anymore. Do you think this is what those hysterically lunatic new wave feminists you speak of wanted?

@Carissimi He was in his 40s. He is 59 now and he was hanging out with Epstein in 2008 which would make him 48 at the time. Certainly old enough to know better. Thinking with the wrong head one would assume.

@hippyjoe1955 I calculated he was 41. She said she slept with him in 2001, so that would be 18-years ago. The age is immaterial, except it may seem creepy, but not unlawful.

@Carissimi Yeah I really don't get the age difference thing so long as both parties are capable of giving informed consent. I don't agree with what Andrew did on a completely different basis than on age. A man his age ought to know how to keep it in his pants and not put himself in this silly position.

@Zonuss I think he did meet her.

@DudeistPriest The new wave feminists. I can’t stand them. A bunch of hysterical lunatics who hate the so called patriarchy.

@Carissimi It's refreshing to hear that. Some of us have given up.

@DudeistPriest I know, and it’s a shame.

@Docdon23 Many accusing Epstein, but one as far as I know accusing Prince Andrew. She was above the age of consent when she slept with him (if she did, and she probably did), so no crime was committed by him.

@Carissimi Like I said in my own comment, Buckingham Palace already did their own investigation and Andrew was stripped of his duties. His interview with Emily Maitlis was a major disaster, not caring in it that she was being held against her will, which was cause for the internal investigation. You apparently are NOT listening, nor caring to take it seriously.

@Carissimi A lucid and important point made here.

@NativeOregonian I’m not listening? I asked you a valid question about this so called investigation, and you didn’t answer. Just because YOU say they investigated, doesn’t mean they did. I’ve not heard or read anything about a Buckingham Palace internal investigation in any news report. What’s your source?

@Carissimi I’m not sure, I do however know that there is more riding on it than simple sleaze. It’s the reputation of the royals who have all sorts of political and financial associations - god only knows what...so if you are aware that those actions can affect a whole range of people and affect their lives negatively then perhaps yes. He knew what it would do, and he didn’t care...the fallout from this could have consequences the general public aren’t even aware of.

@SW-User I get that part, I really do. The optics look very bad, and I believe stepping back from public duties is the right thing, but it still doesn’t make me believe in her story, completely. Some of it, yes, but without a criminal investigation, there are too many questions left unanswered.

@Carissimi Well yes of course - these things need to be investigated through the proper channels, I am in agreement with that. Maybe we shall never know the truth.