BlueSkyKing · M
How about the Bible's support of slavery? Is it moral to own another human being?
It's alright to own slaves, but not to covet them.
It's alright to own slaves, but not to covet them.
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@BlueSkyKing
It doesn't slavery like you would.
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How about the Bible's support of slavery?
It doesn't slavery like you would.
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While I agree with most of this post of Ken Ham, I would have to say that while it's a common claim, the assertion that atheism inherently leads to moral nihilism (the belief that morality is meaningless) is not universally accepted. Atheists hold diverse views on morality, with some maintaining that morality is subjective and others arguing for objective moral principles derived from humanism, reason, or social constructs.
However, I would have to agree that I have never seen a good argument against the Bible. There are some that don't even read the Bible then claim to know what it says and those that only read one verse without taking the rest of the context and chapter into consideration, are naturally prone to thinking there are contradictions in the Bible. There are not.
However, I would have to agree that I have never seen a good argument against the Bible. There are some that don't even read the Bible then claim to know what it says and those that only read one verse without taking the rest of the context and chapter into consideration, are naturally prone to thinking there are contradictions in the Bible. There are not.
DrWatson · 70-79, M
But your same argument can be used to argue for the truth of Islam. Just replace "Bible" with "Koran" throughout. That book also addresses right and wrong .
What brought me back to God years ago was not debates or logical proofs. I doubt whether that ever converts many people.
When I opened the Bible with a hunger in me, then the words burned within me .
What brought me back to God years ago was not debates or logical proofs. I doubt whether that ever converts many people.
When I opened the Bible with a hunger in me, then the words burned within me .
masterofyou · 70-79, M
The Bible is incomplete, you can thank the Catholic Church for that and most of the other denominations don't know much about the other books that Catholic Church decided not to include when all the books were put compiled to make the Bible... The last book, Revelations, was just based on prophetic dreams some have come true....@LadyGrace
jehova · 31-35, M
I have a position that cannot be denied. My perspective is that the bible is invalid. Sure it is relateable, but given it is more than 30 years old it is entirely unreliable based on the legal statute of limitations; which is 30 years.
Therefore whether true or not it is unverifiable. Also when considering the fantastical nature of many of the stories and lack of cross reference. It is a "good argument" "against" the bible. Furthermore it has been translated so many times from arameic from hebrew to latin from italian. From italian to english. With several more languages in between.
Therefore whether true or not it is unverifiable. Also when considering the fantastical nature of many of the stories and lack of cross reference. It is a "good argument" "against" the bible. Furthermore it has been translated so many times from arameic from hebrew to latin from italian. From italian to english. With several more languages in between.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
robingoodfellow · M
@SunshineGirl and bits were tossed out during the Council of Nicea because Christian leaders at the time didn't think they fit well enough with the rest of the narrative.
Charity · 61-69
The Bible warns of skeptics and non-believers, even warns that Christians will fall away.
The Bible says the ruler of this world is blinded the eyes of them that they believe is not, it is as it is, choices are made.
When the whole world see him coming from the clouds with his angels they will be screaming alien invasion because they don't know who he is. And with the invention of the television, telephone / cell phone, then the computer and internet the whole world will see him, except those in extremely remote places without such technology which is very few.
The Bible says the ruler of this world is blinded the eyes of them that they believe is not, it is as it is, choices are made.
When the whole world see him coming from the clouds with his angels they will be screaming alien invasion because they don't know who he is. And with the invention of the television, telephone / cell phone, then the computer and internet the whole world will see him, except those in extremely remote places without such technology which is very few.
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@Adeptlinguist
You don't know then? How do you determine what is good and what is evil. Do you know what evil is and what good is?
What do you mean?
You don't know then? How do you determine what is good and what is evil. Do you know what evil is and what good is?
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@jehova
Not a chance. Where'd you come up with that nonsense from?
So plagarism is a strong argument against the bible being reliable.
Not a chance. Where'd you come up with that nonsense from?
Charity · 61-69
@jehova
From my studies Gilgamesh was not Greek mythology, the Gilgamesh saga was from ancient Sumer.
Ancient Sumer was full of cities / Mesopotamia which still exist in name, but the most important was Ur. Abraham was from the city of Ur, the city in which God told him to leave.
https://www.historyonthenet.com/sumer-the-first-mesopotamian-culture
It was not plagarized // they were same people (mothers, fathers, nieces , nephews, aunts, uncles, cousins) separated by tribes but fairly closely related.
https://study.com/academy/lesson/the-epic-of-gilgamesh.html#:~:text=Show-,What%20is%20the%20Epic%20of%20Gilgamesh?,influenced%20epic%20poetry%20throughout%20time
https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/literature-and-writing/analysis-epic-gilgamesh#:~:text=Translator:%20Nancy%20Sandars-,Summary%20Overview,initially%20recorded%20for%20his%20court.
Jerusalem before King David gave it that name was called Salem. Salem was a Canaanite City near to ancient Sumer.
Sodom and Gomorrah where Canaanite City close to ancient Sumer.
From my studies Gilgamesh was not Greek mythology, the Gilgamesh saga was from ancient Sumer.
Ancient Sumer was full of cities / Mesopotamia which still exist in name, but the most important was Ur. Abraham was from the city of Ur, the city in which God told him to leave.
https://www.historyonthenet.com/sumer-the-first-mesopotamian-culture
It was not plagarized // they were same people (mothers, fathers, nieces , nephews, aunts, uncles, cousins) separated by tribes but fairly closely related.
https://study.com/academy/lesson/the-epic-of-gilgamesh.html#:~:text=Show-,What%20is%20the%20Epic%20of%20Gilgamesh?,influenced%20epic%20poetry%20throughout%20time
https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/literature-and-writing/analysis-epic-gilgamesh#:~:text=Translator:%20Nancy%20Sandars-,Summary%20Overview,initially%20recorded%20for%20his%20court.
Jerusalem before King David gave it that name was called Salem. Salem was a Canaanite City near to ancient Sumer.
Sodom and Gomorrah where Canaanite City close to ancient Sumer.
Adeptlinguist · M
There is no good argument for the bible.
It is a book of collected myths that is full of internal contradictions and just plain silly stuff. Why people take it seriously in the modern world is one of life's great mysteries.
It is without doubt the source of much pain and suffering in this world.
It is a book of collected myths that is full of internal contradictions and just plain silly stuff. Why people take it seriously in the modern world is one of life's great mysteries.
It is without doubt the source of much pain and suffering in this world.
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ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
@Malai or an account made by a catfish that gleans pics of buxom Asian women from the Internet.
Edit: looks like I'm going to have to give context now. She (or he) was comparing the Bible to fantasy books like Harry Potter. But now I've been blocked so I guess I won't be able to out her (or him) anymore. Oh well
Edit: looks like I'm going to have to give context now. She (or he) was comparing the Bible to fantasy books like Harry Potter. But now I've been blocked so I guess I won't be able to out her (or him) anymore. Oh well
Yes. A book isn’t true because it says in the book that it is true.
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@CGS1984
You're the one believing in a talking book, not me. I believe in the One who wrote that book and it's His Word I trust to be true.
That is a piss poor response to a point you cannot refute.
You're the one believing in a talking book, not me. I believe in the One who wrote that book and it's His Word I trust to be true.
@GodSpeed63 I never said that. You are just being obtuse.
You’re the one who believes in holy ghosts when there is not a shred of proof.
You’re the one who believes in holy ghosts when there is not a shred of proof.
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@CGS1984
The burden of proof is on you, not God nor me.
You’re the one who believes in holy ghosts when there is not a shred of proof.
The burden of proof is on you, not God nor me.
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