How Can All This Beauty Come About By A No-Brainer?

@NoThanksLeon All of which mislead you.... that's exactly why we have the scientific method.

It's obvious the Sun orbits the Earth, right? I mean, just use your eyes.

@newjaninev2 [media=https://youtu.be/cCsBYWxmt60]

@Matt85 true, but I've never heard anyone claim the big bang was made by science. As far as I know it has only been described by science based on measurements of how the universe is growing. Those measurements can be repeated so that's science.

@NerdyPotato I think it's just a matter of language here. Sorry if I am not being clear, I know English is not your first language but you speak it better than I speak your language.

Anyways.. What I am saying is, if you believe the existence of the universe can be "described" (well-put by the way) by science, it basically all comes down to physics. Physics dictates the physical universe. Like big bang explodes cause of elemental forces, gravity causes planets to form, radiation from the sun created simple life and also cooled down enough to bring rain, gravity was just right between the earth and another planet to cause a collision between them and the moon was formed and so on. So you see we can describe everything that happens through physics...

I agree that physics can be used to a point. I mean it's in absolutely everything we do and it's repeatable. I just don't think this colourful universe can form from a huge explosion of hydrogen and helium and the dictates of physics.

@Matt85 ah, now I understand. If everything was indeed 100% just atoms and electrons being pushed around by forces among each other, you'd be right. Then if you could somehow go back to the exact same starting position, everything would play out the exact same again when you unpause. I don't think that's a consensus among physicists though. It's not quite clear how free will works, but to my knowledge, most physicists do agree it's probably more than just electrons jumping from one neuron to another due to gravity. And if decisions are made outside the realm of physics, but do affect that realm, the same starting position can suddenly play out in infinite ways.

@samueltyler2Ah.... here we go into gender roles?? I'm a Christian. Does that answer your question? If you are a Christian, then it should.

@JollyRoger no, I don't consider God as humanoid, this neither male or female. I am entitled to that view, which I started by stating.

@samueltyler2 And so you may. God exists as an entity to each individual on this earth. Nobody says you have to love Him. Nobody says you have to believe in Him.
It's your life and your beliefs. If you look over my posts you'll not see any pressure from me for you to believe what I believe.... I am simply pointing out the signs that indicate (to me) that there is a living force that is affecting our lives every day and that I believe that force is my God. I'm entitled to have that belief as much as you are entitled to your belief. As I said to one person on here: I like to argue even when the point is beyond being proveable. Belief is belief - it is not necessarily fact or truth. What I see as being 'evidence' of God's existence may not strike you the same way.

@GodSpeed63 I'm an ignorant person. I do not profess to 'know' God. I know of God's goodness toward all people. His grace toward those who do not believe in Him. His forgiveness of people's sins (if they repent - as told to us by Jesus, His son). I believe in His creation of the beautiful world in which I live. I do not believe in the "Holy Trinity' as proffered by the Catholic church and even my own church: If God was Jesus' father, then it follows that He was a separate entity from Jesus. My belief in that respect is that the convenient rationalization of making 3 entities into one was done so simple minds wouldn't question the following intention of the 'Christian' church to place Jesus the Christ as it's idol without having to break the first and second Commandments.
So: In my mind, there is a God who I trust has my (and your) interests in mind. I do not ask my God for favours.... Instead I ask Him for guidance and understanding.
And (I think finally): as in a question asked by @samueltyler2, "Why 'Him'".... Jesus referred to God as "My father".... So, I honour that pronoun when addressing my God.
I hope this is a rational accounting of my beiefs?

@JollyRoger
I can say that I profess to know Him on a personal basis since I've become born again. I'm a Blood Bought Saint, His adoptive son through Jesus Christ, my Savior and Lord, by His Holy Spirit. This invitation to become born again is for anyone who will receive it.

@GodSpeed63
Go back, and try being “born again” you still haven’t got it right.
You said before, god invented science. Why are you now trying to deny his works.

@newjaninev2
Who the Author of science or, if you will, the science method, is. Allow Him to teach you His creation and how He's made it work through it. If you're unable to do that, then get another profession that your able to master.

@GodSpeed63 You're saying that nobody knows anything unless they're you.

Wow!

@GodSpeed63
creationism doesn't answer your questions - it just stops you asking the questions

@JollyRoger you haven't read my comments of you are asking this question! To me God is amorphous, has no physical features, is a force that kindled all creation. I do believe in the randomness of evolution. I look at physiology and ponder if any great power could ever conceive of such intricate detail, on the other hand I wonder how random genetic changes could expert such changes.

@Kygirl
Right.

I think I saw one of these on a video by that Mudfossil University guy on the YouTubes…! @DocSavage

@NerdyPotato ive heard the case millions of times and am tired of repeated messsging. Do u have anything new/fresh to add? Or Just the same old.

@jehova have you ever answered this question? Because I've never seen any religious person do. Maybe if one of you did, you'd stop being asked the same thing.

@NerdyPotato im not religious. Ill go to church but not with any regularity. Id argue science provides some explanation. The short answer is we (humans) simply dont know. Whereas socery and a magical figure in the sky doesnt add much of an explanation. Science observation and hypothesis at least trys to explain can be tested and proven or dispproven.
Science is my religion.

@Kygirl Are you referring to the blessing of paediatric cancer?

@newjaninev2

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@redredred Your mind is looking for justification in a microscope instead of into a telescope: Is your version of 'life' only that chromosomes unite and replicate a similar entity by their existing attributes? Where does environmental change play a role? Why does environmental change play a role? Where does learning (survival due to adaptation) fit into your paradigm?
As I see it, your vision of genetics is either staid or it diminishes due to faults in genetic replication.
You have failed to justify the 'why' of genetic changes.
Could (not necessarily DOES) a God be creating/influencing those changes and gradually adapting the stucture of an existing species into a new species? God's work is not 'fast' - it seeks eternity. Just because you won't live to see the completed changes due to evolution doesn't mean that there isn't a 'guiding hand' in the process.

@JollyRoger Could a god be behind it? Sure as could Ronald McDonald, SpongeBob, or Minnie Mouse. Any made up, imaginary fairie tale COULD be behind it but Occam’s Razor says likely no, as in 99.999999999999999% no.