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What’s your verdicts on this ?

I was listening to this Orthodox priest on TikTok . He’s a good priest .
He says that listening to music and watching movies are evil .
What do you think ?
Imagine telling someone give up music that’s dedicated all there lives to it and to tell them stop listening to music .
You could drive them into the river by saying that . He also thinks Hollywood is evil and that both music and movies if your listening to or watching that it’s a hypnosis to the sub conscious mind and that you have no control over your mind if you watch or listen to music or movies .
Music and movies is all I have left .
I gave up a lot of things in my life and then when I hear this it’s to deep altoghter .
What’s your view on this
4meAndyou · F Best Comment
🤔🤔🤔 Hmmm. OK, here's what I think. SOME musicians write lyrics that celebrate drugs, or violence, or sex outside of marriage. That's definitely not what anyone could call good, especially a priest. There are plenty of Christian music groups out there, whose music is uplifting and it is NOT evil in any way.

There are movies rated PG that skirt the edge of what priests consider to be evil because they celebrate wizards and magic and so on. But once you hit R rated movies, you have to hear bad language, scenes that are practically porn except the actors are [i]mostly [/i]covered up, and you are inundated with violence. Watching that stuff normalizes it in the minds of those who are easily influenced.

Hollywood sells sex and violence. That's what they do. They appeal to the lowest part of men and women. But there are movies that aren't like that. You just have to read the ratiing, and read a review to know what's what.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@4meAndyou There is even more good music, of [i]all[/i] genres of all ages from Mediaeval to now, that has [i]nothing [/i]to do with sex, violence or drugs, and has [i]nothing [/i]to do with [i]any[/i] religion. You can even enjoy sacred music for its own sake, without having to believe in its deity. (Christianity is not the only fruit...)

As for drugs, violence and sex outside marriage, the last cannot possibly equated with the first two, despite those who like to imagine they can rule other people's love-lives.

Whether films depicting any of these "normalise" the behaviour is an old debate; and works have fiction have depicted drugs, sex and violence since the Ancient Greeks. Usually, the "baddies" lose in the end; but I very much doubt any more than a small minority are influenced by silly films. More likely they are influenced by all-too-real violence and drugs around them or inflicted on them - including in the home.

Sex before marriage? Oh my God. How[i] dare [/i]a couple express their love for each other physically without some official permit first. Is kissing allowed? (The religious service is not the marriage formality. It is only a ceremony relevant only to couples of that faith - many couples marry in registry offices without any church-going.)


Thinking novels and films somehow "evil" because they are magic-fantasies is just laughable. A religious bigot who makes such an allegation unwittingly admits believing in wizards and magic, and thinking the work is a documentary! These stories are aimed mainly at children aged from about 8 upwards - fortunately, unless warped by foolish elders-but-not-betters, most children are perfectly capable of seeing them as enjoyable, pure fantasy.

Was Peter Pan a real boy? Does The Magisterium* really exist?I think the [i]Harry Potter [/i]novels and films have been victims of this sort of childish abuse - where and when did the self-appointed Guardians Of Others' Minds see real teenagers on broomsticks playing real versions of hockey in the air?


Most Christians [i]do[/i] lead good lives, and you [i]do not [/i]need be of [i]any[/i] religion to be good - but there are too many who profess to be "Christian" while being certainly [i]not[/i] good... including those tiny-minded "priests" who condemn anything enjoyable.

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*Opaque central authority in Philip Pullman's [i]Dark Materials[/i] stories.

Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
TikTok is part of the propaganda arm of the CCP.

Its purpose is to sow controversy in the West with stuff of this sort.
Slade · 56-60, M
@Thinkerbell he used to team with King Kong Bundy as a villian tag team. My SIL knew him - said he was a great guy
Slade · 56-60, M
@Thinkerbell


Poor guy only made it to 47 ☹️
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@Slade

Yes, I looked him up... died of cancer. ☹️
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
I have to say that our modern media and music industry is Satanic.

Just remember that television means tell lies visually.
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@ArishMell
Check this out:

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ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ArcAngel I see the article does not give the energy density responsible. Nor though I would not expect it to because it is basic knowledge, that the intensity falls by an inverse-square law.

Certainly you'd not want to be very close to a high-power transmitter: it would cook you! That was discovered by radar researchers during WW2. A 'phone though?

"get rid of your smart-'phone..." Easier said than done I'm afraid as commerce and to some extent various government agencies and public utilities want us to use them more and more widely, not as some sort of imagined "weapon" but for their administrative ease.

I don't have one! I did, about 5 years ago, for about 6 months, but it was such an awkward thing to carry and use, that I paid off the 2-year contract and sold it. I replaced it with a basic, speech-first, text second, 3G instrument on PAYG, and it's not linked to the Internet.

Nor do I use any Bluetooth or other radio-linked equipment, unless you count the central-heating thermostat, front doorbell, and the reversing-camera in my car! And I don't count them. (All are powered by AA cells, so extremely low signal strengths, and the thermostat is the only transmitter on all the time.)


I don't believe the direct "mind control" stuff. The manipulation is primarily commercial and does not need anything that sophisticated, just basic psychology. The advertising trade has always used that even without using any "ology" word.

As for the attempt to link radio-telephones to a viral disease... That is absurd and probably politically-inspired, though a link to cancer may be more credible. Even then it depends on signal intensity and dose rate. Radio frequencies are not ionising but can heat tissue - if powerful enough.

Still, they are right to suggest using r.f. transmitters as little as possible, and a lot of radio-link devices are not actually necessary for function if they can be replaced by cables, nor even to own!
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@ArishMell

I don't have one! I did, about 5 years ago, for about 6 months, but it was such an awkward thing to carry and use, that I paid off the 2-year contract and sold it. I replaced it with a basic, speech-first, text second, 3G instrument on PAYG, and it's not linked to the Internet.

All I have is the inexpensive tracfone that you can get.

I don't believe the direct "mind control" stuff.

This is a very deep and detailed area; and you would have to do a LOT of research on it to
discover the truth about it.


As for the attempt to link radio-telephones to a viral disease... That is absurd and probably politically-inspired,

This woman is not political at all; her orientation is Spiritual.

Watch this:

https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/fluorescent-skin-in-c19-vaccinated#media-dfcc4c80-7f3a-4755-85cf-7750722a69fb
TRLGhere4 · 13-15, F
As an Orthodox Christian, this is a question you need to be cautious about. While there ARE pretty many bad and satanic music and movie industries, there are many good ones aswell. Music and movies driving you away from God is really possible. However, this isn't a case for everything. There are some really good songs and music that aren't satanic or associated with evil. Again, there are still some good songs and movies, and they don't even have to be Christian.
Sometimes secular music and movies could have an effect on us and our mindset, and when approaching these, we should still be careful of our choices. Jesus does say that when becoming Christians, there are wordly things we should sacrifice. Secular/demonic music is one of those. Again, some songs aren't like this, but aren't Christian either. I think that the priest might've talked about secular/demonic songs and movies anyways. Again, there are sacrifices like letting off of worldly things order to get close to God. In this case, it's stopping to listen to secular and demonic things in these forms. Still, as I already said, there a lot of songs that aren't associated with these themes. These songs, again, don't have to Christian. So I think that this is what the priest was talking about. It's not stopping to listen to music forever, there are a lot of songs for worshipping and Churches itself, so it can't mean no listening to music at all
I hope that you are able to understand this, I'm so sorry if you can't understand something
Feel free to ask whatever, both about this if you didn't understand, of anything else
I hope this helped : )
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
Anything that's on TikTok is likely to be designed to sow controversy and dissention in the Western world.

TikTok is an arm of the CCP; an internet 5th column.
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@Thinkerbell
Good point!
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@Thinkerbell explains why Biden is there
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@MarineBob Right!
Domking · 61-69, M
There are soothing and inspiring music and informative movies as well.
Nothing wrong with these.
Enjoy the music, dance to it and enjoy movies too.
As for these lecture, you have two ears - listen through one ear, and let it flow away through the other ear.
There are some people who preach obscure religious misinterpretation, to block people's mind. This is done so that some people get scared and their mind and thoughts can be imprisoned, weakened, so that they become slaves.
Play the music, sing along
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@Domking
How do you interpret this?

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Domking · 61-69, M
@ArcAngel do not find any need to interpret - just leave it, scroll away.
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@Domking
Remain ignorant.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Ignore the fool.

You enjoy music - continue to enjoy it.

You enjoy films - continue to watch them.

Don't let selfish little men like him rule your life: they do it to serve themselves, not God.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
There's an antiquated viewpoint.
Wasn't that what some religious leaders were saying about kids in the 1950's ?

Also a nice cop-out for those that are supposed to be concerned for our spiritual welfare.

The troubles in life aren't apparently about poverty; mental health; poor health choices; lack of societal care; extreme view politics from our current leaderships around the world; manipulation to working conditions the erosion of hard fought workers rights ?

No. Apparently its all down to listening to Taylor Swift and watching Will Ferrell
Clergymen of various denominations have told me music and movies are evil my whole life. My takeaway from it all is this:

If they see something that brings joy and happiness as a disease that must be cured,
I run as fast as I can in the opposite direction.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@robingoodfellow Do these misery-guts condemn all the arts, or just music and films they don't like personally?

Are they saying it is wrong for mankind to create anything?

Can any of them explain their Talibanesque attitudes, or do they just try to hide behind the Bible?
@ArishMell there's always been this weird side of Abrahamic religion that conflates joy with evil. You're happy so you must be doing something wicked.
The burned 'witches' for dancing on a Sunday.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@robingoodfellow I think it's just power-play. The religions themselves don't conflate joy with evil, but they provide a ready excuse for petty little people who find their religion the only way they can exert any power over other people.

Witches were not burned anyway, at least not in Britain though I think it was more common on the Continent. They were usually hanged, but for being so-called "witches".

I don't know if there was ever any statute law against it but dancing on a Sunday might have attracted a torrent of abuse and hatred stoked up by dull-minded, fear-ridden sabbatarians.

These types even exalted the Tay Bridge Disaster in 1879, as God's punishment for travelling on a Sunday! (The bridge collapsed under a train, killing everyone on board, but hardly by God's hand. It was fundamentally weak by bad design and appallingly sloppy construction; and failed under the resultant of the train's weight and lateral load of a gale of a strength common in that region.)
Carazaa · F
How wonderful that your life is a little better lately! Maybe God is drawing you closer to himself. When we start questioning our choices then God is working in our life for the better.If you have turned to God then you are going to slowly change your habits! So if you are questioning your choices then maybe choose some videos that are Godly, or movies that are not violent but have some deeper meanings, and music that is christian once in a while. After I was saved it took about 15 years until I cut out all worldly things in my life. God did a clean out completely. But before that I listened to worldly songs and movies, and enjoyed worldly things. But now I don't enjoy any movies that are too worldly, and I never listen to popular music, not even "got talent" etc, I just think it's a waste of my time.
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@Carazaa
I'm always getting closer to God and I haven't owned a TV or gone to the
movies in over 20 years and I haven't listened to any worldly music in
over 20 years too. In fact, I never liked so called " pop " music; the music industry and hollywood are TOTALY Satanic. I have watched many Christian
videos, but lately I have discovered this amazing Pastor and now his videos
are the only ones I watch; maybe that is what you are picking up on
through the Spirit. Check out his site:

https://rumble.com/user/FGC

God bless you!
Scott
4meAndyou · F
Thank you for Best Comment! ☺️
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
I would never use TikTok.

Anything on TikTok has likely been put there to serve the interests of the CCP by spreading conflict, uncertainty and turmoil in the West.

Oops, I see I already made this point earlier.
Still true, though.
@Thinkerbell It may shock you to learn that we agree on that. I don't trust social media from a country like China, either.
bookerdana · M
I think God smiled on his creation and all the beautiful things in it,Music Arts,Literature.....and yes all these things do affect us as they are supposed to.....just use discretion

An abuse does not supersede or take away use......Aquinas I think🤔
Domking · 61-69, M
Thats not religion - that is fundamentalist propaganda.
Of course there are videos, films or content that misleads and captures the mind, but that's no justification for throwing away the [b]baby[/b] [i]with the bathwater.[/i]
A reasonable selection of movies and music that soothes, inspires and lights up the imagination. Avoiding mindless excess of sex, violence or malice.
That is all that is required - rest is bullshit
MarineBob · 56-60, M
If someone was caught stealing his churches organ would he refuse to prosecute
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Delete the app. Never look up TikTok on the internet. Skip reading anything about TikTok ever again and hope if goes bankrupt and its owners go straight to hell. The end. Personally I would recommend those same with Facebook however don’t view it as so black and white. If someone wants to waste their valuable time with it it’s on them.
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I love Tik Tok but it’s a propaganda tool if ever I’ve seen one. I would take anything I see on there with a grain of salt.
@sascha There’s all sorts of interesting and funny things on there and it’s addictive. It’s more a distraction than anything else, however falling down it’s rabbit hole is easy so it pays to be aware.
sascha · F
@CrystalSkull Funny? What's funny?

I tried it several years ago, and thought it was very strange.
@sascha perhaps its algorithm has improved. You can find anything under the sun on there, science, art, philosophical ideas, news, humour, politics, food you name it. What I like is the footage everyday citizens from my own country post with regards to weather and traffic for example. The more you like a certain topic the more those topics will appear in your feed. It’s highly addictive so don’t bother…🙄😊 but yeah if you’re of a certain mindset in any spectrum it’s easy to get shit on your algorithm constantly. I wouldn’t use it as a reliable source.
sascha · F
Do music and movies distract from God?

If so, wouldn't TikTok distract from God? Is using it evil?
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@ArishMell
Spiritual music is fine; even King David was a musician and I used
to be too. If you have discernment, you can easily tell the difference
between Satanic and Godly music. It is the Satanic music that dominates the secular world which is about 90% of the world
sad to say.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ArcAngel Why have you developed this idea that anything not directly sacred, is therefore evil, or the work of your "Satan"? What does it gain you to come over as a bitter misery-guts who hates humanity?.

I rather doubt that 90% of the world, if you mean society, is secular. It has to be secular administratively, in trade, etc, of course; but very large proportions of the populations are religious. They might not follow whatever is your faith, but that is not the point.

Did King David only ever play religious music - did that even exist in his time? Or did he also play music simply to be enjoyed, maybe even love-songs and dance music?

J.S. Bach wrote a lot of sacred music. Good? He also wrote a lot of secular music. Bad?

Elgar wrote his sublime [i]Dream of Gerontius [/i]as a religious fable. Good? He also wrote an equally gorgeous violin concerto. Bad?

''''''
Take these three simple love songs: [i]Greensleeves[/i] (from the 16C); [i]My love Is Like A Red Red Rose[/i] (19C) and [i]Anyone Who Had A Heart[/i] (20C). They are about human beings naturally falling in love. (Well, all right the third expresses the natural yearning to be in love.)

If you call innocent romances like those "Satanic", just because they are not hymns, you are saying it is "Satanic" for human beings to fall in love. Good thing that never caught on over 200 millennia ago, or none of could exist now! Which [i]you[/i] might think good, of course, but that says you think God Got It Wrong!

Luckily your God not only created us physically as part of life on Earth, and with it the human emotion called "Love" and the physiology necessary to continue our species.

He also gave us, men and women alike, the brains that contain the emotions, imagination, creativity and skills to be creative in turn, whether our creations are sacred or secular - and importantly, irrespective of any religious ideas we might choose to follow.

And that creativity expresses itself in so many ways. I agree some works are bad, in a "moral" sense, but you condemning [i]all[/i] non-religious arts as evil merely for being non-religious, merely says no-one should do anything you don't like personally.


If you think that God-given, human creativity to be wrong, you are saying your God has made a massive mistake.

Your proselytising on a "satanical" social-media site is hypocritical but essentially harmless. You won't convert anyone but might warn some not to fall into your trap of being so fearful and miserable.

I only hope you do not use your puritanical beliefs to bully anyone in real life though. That would be against God, as well as foolish and cowardly in purely human terms.

Try resuming music and learning to enjoy life again. You can still go to church on Sundays!
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@ArishMell
@ArcAngel Why have you developed this idea that anything not directly sacred, is therefore evil, or the work of your "Satan"? What does it gain you to come over as a bitter misery-guts who hates humanity?.

I don't have bitter misery-guts nor do I hate humanity. I am trying to
save humanity by revealing the truth to them. You are really being
judgemental here coming up with ridiculous comments towards
me out of ignorance.



Did King David only ever play religious music - did that even exist in his time? Or did he also play music simply to be enjoyed, maybe even love-songs and dance music?

He played Spiritual music on the harp which was soothing and
peacefull; not sex drugs and rock and roll like today. And he did
dance before YHWH his Sustainer.

J.S. Bach wrote a lot of sacred music. Good? He also wrote a lot of secular music. Bad?

Bach was not always in the Spirit.

Elgar wrote his sublime Dream of Gerontius as a religious fable. Good? He also wrote an equally gorgeous violin concerto. Bad?

Not familiar with him so I can't comment on this one.

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Take these three simple love songs: Greensleeves (from the 16C); My love Is Like A Red Red Rose (19C) and Anyone Who Had A Heart (20C). They are about human beings naturally falling in love. (Well, all right the third expresses the natural yearning to be in love.)

These are perfectly fine; like I said before, you can easily tell the
difference if you have discernment.


If you call innocent romances like those "Satanic", just because they are not hymns, you are saying it is "Satanic" for human beings to fall in love. Good thing that never caught on over 200 millennia ago, or none of could exist now! Which you might think good, of course, but that says you think God Got It Wrong!

I'm NOT saying that those are Satanic; you are really on my case
here. Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

Luckily your God not only created us physically as part of life on Earth, and with it the human emotion called "Love" and the physiology necessary to continue our species.

He said be fruitfull and multiply. YHWH has nothing against procreation; just fornication and adultury.

He also gave us, men and women alike, the brains that contain the emotions, imagination, creativity and skills to be creative in turn, whether our creations are sacred or secular - and importantly, irrespective of any religious ideas we might choose to follow.

Yes, but you must remember that the Spirit is at war with the
flesh. We need to seek the heavenly, not the earthly.

And that creativity expresses itself in so many ways. I agree some works are bad, in a "moral" sense, but you condemning all non-religious arts as evil merely for being non-religious, merely says no-one should do anything you don't like personally.

Use DISCERNMENT!

If you think that God-given, human creativity to be wrong, you are saying your God has made a massive mistake.

There is nothing wrong with human creativity if it serves God and
not Satan.

Your proselytising on a "satanical" social-media site is hypocritical but essentially harmless.

I'm not very happy about this site, but it is all I have.

You won't convert anyone but might warn some not to fall into your trap of being so fearful and miserable.

There are a FEW who get and that is the fulfilment of Scripture:

Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it.

I only hope you do not use your puritanical beliefs to bully anyone in real life though. That would be against God, as well as foolish and cowardly in purely human terms.

I'm not bulling anyone; there you go again with your wild imagination
and your judgementalism.

Try resuming music and learning to enjoy life again. You can still go to church on Sundays!

I'm in prayer and study of the Sciptures every day and every night.
ExtremeNext · 31-35
Typical priest telling everybody what to do and live your life then goes home to have sex with little kids
ExtremeNext · 31-35
Are these the same priests who say it's even then go home and have sex with little boys 🤷‍♀️
And he's orthodox? No, this view is legalistic.
Dacrowman · 70-79, M
@Dacrowman The Chinese Communist Party.
Renaci · 36-40
And yet he says nothing about his faith being the oldest pedophile ring in the world.
I think he's full of shit. All things in moderation is the best way to go.
tenente · 100+, M
former catholic here. can confirm: context informs everything. medium celebrates god? good. medium dishonor god? bad. context of bible versus, in isolation, can be misinterpreted to fit any agenda.

missing context can be fucking funny too 😂 BEHOLD!! :

 
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