What’s your verdicts on this ?

@sascha
ALL things that distract us from God are evil!

@sascha NO! It is absurd to say they can.

[i]Anything [/i]can distract you from God including your daily work, but it's by your choice and meaningless anyway if you don't believe in gods.

If music is evil why does the Christian tradition have such a rich accumulation of music, from Mediaeval times to works being created now? If films are evil why do so many religious believers watch them?

I would question the motives of the embittered, doom-laden, fascistic Bible-thumpers. If they want to shut the world out of their own lives that is their choice, but why do they want no-one else to enjoy the life their God gave them?

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A real-life example.....

A long-time friend became ordained as a priest a few years ago - I had attended her Service of Ordination to Deacon, if I remember the rank correctly, a year or two previously. (I was rather taken by the offer of gluten-free wafers and alcohol-free wine, for the Communion!)

I recall she and her husband once telling me they used to belong to a small, local church group but left it when it started to degenerate into puritanical gloom. They joined a congregation that was [i]not[/i] one of these hippyish, happy-clappy clans, but nevertheless worshipped both God and Life. I have been on holiday with them, years ago, and they did attend local Sunday services on these, even though not of their denomination.

They have no TV (nor do some of my other friends, nor I) but I don't know if they watch films in other ways.. However, they have always loved music and her husband used frequently to perform in folk-clubs where he even managed to sell a few self-made CDs of his own songs. Their son joined an amateur jazz band, but I forget which instrument he played. ]

Does this biography make them "evil"....? Hardly, except perhaps to the Taliban.

@ArishMell
Spiritual music is fine; even King David was a musician and I used
to be too. If you have discernment, you can easily tell the difference
between Satanic and Godly music. It is the Satanic music that dominates the secular world which is about 90% of the world
sad to say.

@ArcAngel Why have you developed this idea that anything not directly sacred, is therefore evil, or the work of your "Satan"? What does it gain you to come over as a bitter misery-guts who hates humanity?.

I rather doubt that 90% of the world, if you mean society, is secular. It has to be secular administratively, in trade, etc, of course; but very large proportions of the populations are religious. They might not follow whatever is your faith, but that is not the point.

Did King David only ever play religious music - did that even exist in his time? Or did he also play music simply to be enjoyed, maybe even love-songs and dance music?

J.S. Bach wrote a lot of sacred music. Good? He also wrote a lot of secular music. Bad?

Elgar wrote his sublime [i]Dream of Gerontius [/i]as a religious fable. Good? He also wrote an equally gorgeous violin concerto. Bad?

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Take these three simple love songs: [i]Greensleeves[/i] (from the 16C); [i]My love Is Like A Red Red Rose[/i] (19C) and [i]Anyone Who Had A Heart[/i] (20C). They are about human beings naturally falling in love. (Well, all right the third expresses the natural yearning to be in love.)

If you call innocent romances like those "Satanic", just because they are not hymns, you are saying it is "Satanic" for human beings to fall in love. Good thing that never caught on over 200 millennia ago, or none of could exist now! Which [i]you[/i] might think good, of course, but that says you think God Got It Wrong!

Luckily your God not only created us physically as part of life on Earth, and with it the human emotion called "Love" and the physiology necessary to continue our species.

He also gave us, men and women alike, the brains that contain the emotions, imagination, creativity and skills to be creative in turn, whether our creations are sacred or secular - and importantly, irrespective of any religious ideas we might choose to follow.

And that creativity expresses itself in so many ways. I agree some works are bad, in a "moral" sense, but you condemning [i]all[/i] non-religious arts as evil merely for being non-religious, merely says no-one should do anything you don't like personally.


If you think that God-given, human creativity to be wrong, you are saying your God has made a massive mistake.

Your proselytising on a "satanical" social-media site is hypocritical but essentially harmless. You won't convert anyone but might warn some not to fall into your trap of being so fearful and miserable.

I only hope you do not use your puritanical beliefs to bully anyone in real life though. That would be against God, as well as foolish and cowardly in purely human terms.

Try resuming music and learning to enjoy life again. You can still go to church on Sundays!

@ArishMell
@ArcAngel Why have you developed this idea that anything not directly sacred, is therefore evil, or the work of your "Satan"? What does it gain you to come over as a bitter misery-guts who hates humanity?.

I don't have bitter misery-guts nor do I hate humanity. I am trying to
save humanity by revealing the truth to them. You are really being
judgemental here coming up with ridiculous comments towards
me out of ignorance.



Did King David only ever play religious music - did that even exist in his time? Or did he also play music simply to be enjoyed, maybe even love-songs and dance music?

He played Spiritual music on the harp which was soothing and
peacefull; not sex drugs and rock and roll like today. And he did
dance before YHWH his Sustainer.

J.S. Bach wrote a lot of sacred music. Good? He also wrote a lot of secular music. Bad?

Bach was not always in the Spirit.

Elgar wrote his sublime Dream of Gerontius as a religious fable. Good? He also wrote an equally gorgeous violin concerto. Bad?

Not familiar with him so I can't comment on this one.

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Take these three simple love songs: Greensleeves (from the 16C); My love Is Like A Red Red Rose (19C) and Anyone Who Had A Heart (20C). They are about human beings naturally falling in love. (Well, all right the third expresses the natural yearning to be in love.)

These are perfectly fine; like I said before, you can easily tell the
difference if you have discernment.


If you call innocent romances like those "Satanic", just because they are not hymns, you are saying it is "Satanic" for human beings to fall in love. Good thing that never caught on over 200 millennia ago, or none of could exist now! Which you might think good, of course, but that says you think God Got It Wrong!

I'm NOT saying that those are Satanic; you are really on my case
here. Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

Luckily your God not only created us physically as part of life on Earth, and with it the human emotion called "Love" and the physiology necessary to continue our species.

He said be fruitfull and multiply. YHWH has nothing against procreation; just fornication and adultury.

He also gave us, men and women alike, the brains that contain the emotions, imagination, creativity and skills to be creative in turn, whether our creations are sacred or secular - and importantly, irrespective of any religious ideas we might choose to follow.

Yes, but you must remember that the Spirit is at war with the
flesh. We need to seek the heavenly, not the earthly.

And that creativity expresses itself in so many ways. I agree some works are bad, in a "moral" sense, but you condemning all non-religious arts as evil merely for being non-religious, merely says no-one should do anything you don't like personally.

Use DISCERNMENT!

If you think that God-given, human creativity to be wrong, you are saying your God has made a massive mistake.

There is nothing wrong with human creativity if it serves God and
not Satan.

Your proselytising on a "satanical" social-media site is hypocritical but essentially harmless.

I'm not very happy about this site, but it is all I have.

You won't convert anyone but might warn some not to fall into your trap of being so fearful and miserable.

There are a FEW who get and that is the fulfilment of Scripture:

Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it.

I only hope you do not use your puritanical beliefs to bully anyone in real life though. That would be against God, as well as foolish and cowardly in purely human terms.

I'm not bulling anyone; there you go again with your wild imagination
and your judgementalism.

Try resuming music and learning to enjoy life again. You can still go to church on Sundays!

I'm in prayer and study of the Sciptures every day and every night.