What’s your verdicts on this ?

@ArcAngel Satanic? LOL! Are you a spokesman for the Taliban?

"... modern media..." satanic? Which media? The word is plural and there are many media, including those loosely called "social" - such as this site.

@ArishMell
No I am not a spokesman for the Taliban. I tried to load a music video
for you to show you how Satanic it is, but the " powers that be " are
blocking it. It just goes to show you that they don't want the truth
told out there. And most media is Satanic, even the www stands
for 666 because the w is the 6th letter in the Hebrew alphabet. It is called a Wod or Vav and it's the same logo that is on the monster
energy drink; Satanic symbology is everywhere you look when you
have eyes to see. If you would like to know more about this, go to
kleckfiles.com and check out a few videos there.

@ArcAngel You might not be a Talibani but you have similar ideas: that anything enjoyable or artistic is evil for similar superstitious reasons.

Yes, there are films and songs about things I do not like either, but they are a fraction of the whole. Trying to invent satanic links by mere co-incidences or to match whatever artistic tastes you do have, is just so illogical.

You have a very vivid imagination, but it seems one determined to see wrongdoing in anything and everything for no reason. What does an artwork have to be, to please you? Are there any?

No-one is forcing you or I to see violent films (which I don't like) or listen to "gangsta-rap" lyrics (which I'd not understand anyway). Presumably though, we must never listen to Richard Wagner's 19C The Ring Of The Niebelung (my favourite opera), or watch a performance of Shakespeare's Macbeth, or read William Golding's The Lord Of The Flies . The play and the novel were among the set English Literature texts at school).

Best avoid the same playwright's A Midsummer Night's Dream too, which I also studied in my mid-teens for the GCE O-Level examinations, because although a comedy with no sex and violence, it has people falling in love and, Ye Gods, fairies!

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Besides, the six-hundred-and-sixty-six fantasy is much older than computers, but if you think the World Wide Web is "Satanic" merely because the Roman alphabet's 23rd letter happens to translate to the Hebrew alphabet's 6th, why are you and I using the Internet? Doesn't it imply we are "Satanists"?

@ArishMell

I go by the Scriptures which are the faithfull and true words of YHWH:

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Satan is the god of this world and the prince of the air ( air waves like tv and radio etc... He controls everything!

@ArcAngel

Is that all you can manage? Hiding behind irrelevant quotations that only told their original readers to believe in the Hebrew God ?

So anything modern, anything creative, anything enjoyable, is Satanic?

Has it not occurred to you that most modern, genuine Christians enjoy life instead of seeing it as burdened by your Satan?

That they enjoy music and the other arts, radio and TV programmes, the WWW, etc.?

That if you think God created everything you must accept He created Physics including the Harmonic Series and the Electromagnetic Spectrum you think are evil? Oh - and that He also invented sexual reproduction, and intended consensual mating between adult humans to be fun?

I assume you do not use a portable telephone, "smart"-speaker, Bluetooth instruments, wireless doorbells, etc: these are radio transmitter / receivers so are controlled by Satan. So you say.

I assume there are no radios or TVs in your home (though I hope you are not denying others their enjoyment). Yet you use the WWW despite telling us you see it as Satanic.

Or are you actually a Satanist?

@ArishMell

ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ArcAngel

Is that all you can manage? Hiding behind irrelevant quotations that only told their original readers to believe in the Hebrew God ?

They are not irrelevant; after studying the scriptures over many years, I now KNOW that they have accurately
predicted every detail of Christ's birth, life, death and purpose over 1000's of years ago and the New Testament is not only for Hebrews, it is also for Gentiles.

So anything modern, anything creative, anything enjoyable, is Satanic?

Luke 8:14
And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.

2 Timothy 3:4
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

Has it not occurred to you that most modern, genuine Christians enjoy life instead of seeing it as burdened by your Satan?

They are the many, not the FEW:

Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but truth is TRUTH!


That they enjoy music and the other arts, radio and TV programmes, the WWW, etc.?

I already answered that one.

That if you think God created everything you must accept He created Physics including the Harmonic Series and the Electromagnetic Spectrum you think are evil? Oh - and that He also invented sexual reproduction, and intended consensual mating between adult humans to be fun?

No, true science is fine and the electromagnetic spectrum is neither good nor evil, it just is.
And sex between married men and women are fine, but not out side of marriage.

I assume you do not use a portable telephone, "smart"-speaker, Bluetooth instruments, wireless doorbells, etc: these are radio transmitter / receivers so are controlled by Satan. So you say.

I admit that I do have a cell phone and I have a Bluetooth speaker, but no wireless doorbells etc...

And they can track us through these devices especially with 5G.

I assume there are no radios or TVs in your home (though I hope you are not denying others their enjoyment). Yet you use the WWW despite telling us you see it as Satanic.

You are correct, I do not have a tv or a radio. I use WWW because it is the only way I can communicate
with others and YHWH can work through Satanic devices because HE is more powerfull than Satan.

Or are you actually a Satanist?

That is a ridiculous question and I am assuming that a demon put that thought in your head.

@ArcAngel I did ask if you a Satanist very tongue-in-cheek, but you seem obsessed with it.

You simply seem to think anything modern is evil, at least, you do not deny that allegation.

I do not use Bluetooth items either, and I do not have a "smart"-phone, but it's huge commercial organisations I worry about tracking me, not governments, if that's what you fear. I was being a bit satirical about door-bells: you cannot be tracked by door-bell!

The telephone needs its own system to "know" where it is so it can work: the signals are of very low power so need extensive relay networks to convey the calls. It does not tell anyone where you are or what you are doing, only the telephone's location.

If I leave mine at home but switched on when I go out, (as I quite often do!) the system cannot know if I am also at home. If I go away for a few days, the network will know where the telephone is, to the nearest mast at least, but not where I am, whom I am seeing or what I am doing - and during the journey it is switched off anyway. (Illegal to use the instrument while driving.)

If some agency wanted to know our whereabouts or actions it can do that only by taking the device itself and analysing its use; but I do not fear that happening because I am not a criminal.

So if you are frightened the Internet is controlled by this imaginary Satan, you would limit its use to absolute need, and use simple e-posts and a basic portable telephone (as mine is) for your communications with relatives and friends. Or letters - even more secure!

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I will grant you that there are things on the Internet neither you nor I would want - not just hard-core pornography but also data-harvesters like Facebook and 'X'... I hope SW is not one! I also limit my on-line shopping considerably, which is useful for avoiding meretricious advertisements, as well as slowing to some extent sales of my identity by the largely-American companies who have taken over the Internet.

Similarly with the arts - there are things I would not like. Nevertheless you do not deny you despise them all, but from a fear of some mythical being called Satan. That is not Christian and it does not infect most decent Christians! Nor, indeed all those decent people who find no reason to believe in any gods and devils.

I think you just have a cold heart, but find your "Satan" an easy justification.

@ArishMell
@ArcAngel I did ask if you a Satanist very tongue-in-cheek, but you seem obsessed with it.

Fair enough.

You simply seem to think anything modern is evil, at least, you do not deny that allegation.

Modern inventions are neither good nor evil; it is just who that is
using them. You can build a house with a hammer or bash someone's
skull with it.

I do not use Bluetooth items either, and I do not have a "smart"-phone, but it's huge commercial organisations I worry about tracking me, not governments, if that's what you fear. I was being a bit satirical about door-bells: you cannot be tracked by door-bell!

Both commercial AND governments can track you.

The telephone needs its own system to "know" where it is so it can work: the signals are of very low power so need extensive relay networks to convey the calls.

Those 5G towers have 12 2 inch thick copper cables running into
them and are capable of carrying mega watts of power, far beyond
simple cell phone requirements.

It does not tell anyone where you are or what you are doing, only the telephone's location.

To the best of my knowledge, they certainly can.

If I leave mine at home but switched on when I go out, (as I quite often do!) the system cannot know if I am also at home. If I go away for a few days, the network will know where the telephone is, to the nearest mast at least, but not where I am, whom I am seeing or what I am doing - and during the journey it is switched off anyway. (Illegal to use the instrument while driving.)

Whether it is on or off, it can hear what is going on in your house.

If some agency wanted to know our whereabouts or actions it can do that only by taking the device itself and analysing its use; but I do not fear that happening because I am not a criminal.

As long as you are not speaking the truth of what they doing, they
could care less about you and they will leave you alone.

So if you are frightened the Internet is controlled by this imaginary Satan, you would limit its use to absolute need, and use simple e-posts and a basic portable telephone (as mine is) for your communications with relatives and friends. Or letters - even more secure!

I'm not frightened of the internet; like I said YHWH works through
Satan's devices because HE is more powerfull. And that is just what
Satan wants, for you to believe that he is only imaginary.

Do you believe that Jesus Christ was a real individual who walked
this earth?

I will grant you that there are things on the Internet neither you nor I would want - not just hard-core pornography but also data-harvesters like Facebook and 'X'... I hope SW is not one! I also limit my on-line shopping considerably, which is useful for avoiding meretricious advertisements, as well as slowing to some extent sales of my identity by the largely-American companies who have taken over the Internet.

I agree, but those who are preaching the truth are often censored
especially if they use code words like free masons etc...

Similarly with the arts - there are things I would not like. Nevertheless you do not deny you despise them all, but from a fear of some mythical being called Satan. That is not Christian and it does not infect most decent Christians!

Read the words of Jesus himself if you doubt the reality of Satan:

Matthew 4:10
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Matthew 12:26
And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

Matthew 16:23
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Mark 4:15
And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Luke 10:18
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Luke 22:3
Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

Acts 5:3
But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

Acts 26:18
To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

And there are many more verses that mention Satan.
Satan is very real as such is Jesus.

Nor, indeed all those decent people who find no reason to believe in any gods and devils.

They are blinded and are not interested in the truth.

I think you just have a cold heart, but find your "Satan" an easy justification.

I can assure you that I have a very warm heart and that is why
I want to lead people to the truth, even though it is hard to face.

If a drunken drug addict on the street asked me for money,
I wouldn't give him any because I know that he would use it to
buy drugs or beer. Instead I would take him somewhere where
he could get help even though he wouldn't like it.

Call it tough love, but it is true love.

If you truely want answers to your most difficult questions,
go to:

https://rumble.com/user/FGC

And start watching his videos; they will answer 90% of your
questions. If you are not willing to do that, I can't help you any
further.

@ArcAngel
No! God controls everything, 😉 even Satan!

@Carazaa
Yes, but God allows Satan to control this world:

Mat 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
Mat 4:9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

If Satan didn't own this world and have complete control of it, then he would have not been able to offer it to Jesus.

And just a little correction and reproval here:

Psalm 35:19
Let not them that are mine enemies wrongfully rejoice over me: neither let them wink with the eye that hate me without a cause.

Proverbs 10:10
He that winketh with the eye causeth sorrow: but a prating fool shall fall.

Anyway Carazaa, you are one of the few people on this site that I like.

@ArcAngel Why are using the Internet then?

For you consider the Electromagnetic Spectrum that includes sun-light and radio waves, and by extension Electricity and Magnetism, to be the Work of The Devil! :-)

At least Carazza apparently believes Physics to be the Work of God - which is logical if you believe in a creative deity.

@ArishMell
Why are using the Internet then?

It is the only vehicle available to reach out and save souls and YHWH
works even through the beast system and Satan's control over our
world.

For you consider the Electromagnetic Spectrum that includes sun-light and radio waves, and by extension Electricity and Magnetism, to be the Work of The Devil! :-)

I do not include the Electromagnetic Spectrum or Sun light or Electricity
and Magnetism to be the work of Satan, however, Satan does use radio
waves and TV waves to do his work. You are putting words in my mouth.

At least Carazza apparently believes Physics to be the Work of God - which is logical if you believe in a creative deity.

And I have no problem with Physics either; it is the work of God.
I believe in true Spiritual science, not " scientism."

@ArcAngel I don't believe in gods or devils but if I were to do so then indeed I would credit God (or my faith's god) with "inventing" physics. However I was responding to something Carazza quoted back at you, which looked as if you regard things like radio waves as Satan's work.

I apologise if I misunderstood that point. Also for missing a previous post I think was hidden behind a "9 other replies" banner.

In that you question why 5G masts need cables over a foot in diameter. I don't know which particular installations you have in mind but are they actually cables carrying large bundles of fibre-optic signal "wires"? Or at least relatively small power-cables with a lot of shrouding and insulation. I doubt any single, local 5G mast is rated at MW either, though the largest regional-coverage aerials might be, especially in remote areas. (A "smart"-'phone of course radiates only mW of power.)


You do though seem to have a phobia of such telephones and the radio for reasons nothing to do with religion - anyway all of the world's religions were invented millennia before electricity was discovered! For example, you say of a portable telephone:


I think that was following my saying mine is usually off, and sometimes I leave it at home when I go out. So it would be rather dull listening for any eavesdropper - and I do not consider myself important enough or rogue enough for that to happen!

It can't of course hear what is going on unless you switch it on and ring some number. All it can do, if anything, when static is to send its location signal that merely helps the system route calls to it. Without that, it would not work!

Even when you are out and about with it, it still does NOT tell anyone what you are doing. It merely tells the system where IT is, not where YOU are, nor why, at any given time.

The real eavesdroppers are devices like 'Alexa' and I refuse point-blank to own of those. They are used by their owners (Google?) not to work out what you doing but to see what products you might want to buy.

You say the Internet is the "only" way you can preach to us all. It might be the largest but if anyone wants to track us it is via "social-media", and the tracking is by big commercial outfits. I refuse to use Facebook and Twitter (oh all right, Meta and X) for that reason.


I don't blame you individually. This is a common phobia, spread ironically by people who have made themselves depend on the things. Such unthinking fears of anything new and technical are not new of course. For example:

"They will stop hens laying, stop cows producing milk; the human body cannot withstand travelling at such speeds!"

What were they waffling about? The railways! The unimaginably dangerous speed was predicted without prior experience, evidence or experiment to be anything above 30mph. (That is horse galloping speed so until then, the fastest any human had ever ridden).

So all the tripe you read on the Internet about the imagined dangers and uses of 5G and portable telephones is only a parallel some 170 years later, when we can use our "smart"-'phones and lap-tops while travelling in ordinary passenger-trains cruising at 100mph past fields of farm animals that learn to ignore them!

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You asked me if I think Jesus was a real person. I have no idea. I know the Bible's assorted authors did. I know Christians think he was (obviously). So do Muslims, but as a human not a divine being. I am not sure how the Jewish faith defines him. So I am quite prepared to accept he, or someone like him, did exist but I find the divinity aspects pretty hard to swallow. I take the Bible as an anthology of early Hebrew beliefs and distorted history, that is all.

You appear to rubbish all the arts as Satan's work. Really? Well, I do not believe in Satan but the philosophical point is that such criticism of the arts would consign huge swathes of positive, inspiring and high quality - or even just entertaining - human creativity to your Hell. Unfortunately since you believe God created humans you need accept God also gave us our creativity and aesthetic senses. Or did He make one huge mistake doing so?

@ArcAngel ♥️ Please, please realize that if we trust in Jesus then he will protect us. I fear nothing but God.
"All things turn out for good for those who love God."
"Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord delivers him out of them ALL"
And read John 14 where Jesus promises to answer all our prayers.

Jesus is coming very soon and it is important to trust in him, and do what he says, to love people. God warns that no fearful person will enter heaven. Don't be afraid of anything except the one who holds the key to heaven and the only one who answers prayers. God!

@ArishMell
Check this out:

Biological Effects Of Electromagnetic Radiation ( Radiowaves And Microwaves) Defense Intelligence Agency 1976 Document
ANA MARIA MIHALCEA, MD, PHD

I wanted to post this research from the Defense Intelligence Agency from 1976 on the knowledge 50 years ago of the effects of microwave and radio frequency radiation. If it seems that what is going on now with humanity fits the description in these documents, is because it does. All symptoms we describe related to “Covid” can be induced by EMF frequency. I have written about this previously and also explained how scalar interferometry used on a population can program the electromagnetic and biophotonic cellular control mechanism to weaken immune resistance against a wide variety of assaults.
A Biophysical Understanding of Vaccine Shedding and Self-disseminating Vaccines in Populations Considering Scalar Interferometry - the Electromagnetic Harmonics That can Carry a Specific Disease or Healing Information Structure

We also know how WBAN can be used to induce Corona symptoms:
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In the below document exerpts, it is clear that accelerated aging, heart arrythmia, brain fog and even Voice to Skull mind control technologies, endocrine dysruptions, immune system downregulation, accelerated heart disease and atherosclerosis, dysfunctional carbohydrate metabolism, blood clotting disorders, and more all can be induced by EMF.
People continue to debate if 5G is harmful or exposure to their electronic devices contributes to their adverse health sympoms. The answer is yes. It is amazing how much symptom improvement can be achieved with diligent EMF mitigation.
It is important to understand microwaves and radiowaves have always been used in a weaponized way and have been for the last 50 years. Imagine how much more advanced military clandestine technology is compared to this document.

Summary:
Radio and microwaves have adverse health effects, everything else in scientific literature that claims the results are inconclusive, is propaganda. Understanding that our convenience technologies like cell phones, computers and the supporting wireless networks all have adverse health effects, is important to understand and to mitigate to support our survival in this war. Using ethernet cables instead of WIFI, minimizing cell phone exposure ( or even bettergetting rid of your smart phone all together), opposing 5G and above networks, getting out of the cities where the smartgrid is frying humanity with wide frequency ranges, getting rid of smart meters, minimizing blue tooth etc, etc… People want to be as up to date on technologies as they can. But the more you are, the more gridlocked you are into the control weapons systems that can make you ill.

@ArcAngel I see the article does not give the energy density responsible. Nor though I would not expect it to because it is basic knowledge, that the intensity falls by an inverse-square law.

Certainly you'd not want to be very close to a high-power transmitter: it would cook you! That was discovered by radar researchers during WW2. A 'phone though?

"get rid of your smart-'phone..." Easier said than done I'm afraid as commerce and to some extent various government agencies and public utilities want us to use them more and more widely, not as some sort of imagined "weapon" but for their administrative ease.

I don't have one! I did, about 5 years ago, for about 6 months, but it was such an awkward thing to carry and use, that I paid off the 2-year contract and sold it. I replaced it with a basic, speech-first, text second, 3G instrument on PAYG, and it's not linked to the Internet.

Nor do I use any Bluetooth or other radio-linked equipment, unless you count the central-heating thermostat, front doorbell, and the reversing-camera in my car! And I don't count them. (All are powered by AA cells, so extremely low signal strengths, and the thermostat is the only transmitter on all the time.)


I don't believe the direct "mind control" stuff. The manipulation is primarily commercial and does not need anything that sophisticated, just basic psychology. The advertising trade has always used that even without using any "ology" word.

As for the attempt to link radio-telephones to a viral disease... That is absurd and probably politically-inspired, though a link to cancer may be more credible. Even then it depends on signal intensity and dose rate. Radio frequencies are not ionising but can heat tissue - if powerful enough.

Still, they are right to suggest using r.f. transmitters as little as possible, and a lot of radio-link devices are not actually necessary for function if they can be replaced by cables, nor even to own!

@ArishMell

I don't have one! I did, about 5 years ago, for about 6 months, but it was such an awkward thing to carry and use, that I paid off the 2-year contract and sold it. I replaced it with a basic, speech-first, text second, 3G instrument on PAYG, and it's not linked to the Internet.

All I have is the inexpensive tracfone that you can get.

I don't believe the direct "mind control" stuff.

This is a very deep and detailed area; and you would have to do a LOT of research on it to
discover the truth about it.


As for the attempt to link radio-telephones to a viral disease... That is absurd and probably politically-inspired,

This woman is not political at all; her orientation is Spiritual.

Watch this:

https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/fluorescent-skin-in-c19-vaccinated#media-dfcc4c80-7f3a-4755-85cf-7750722a69fb