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SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
You might find this of interest:
https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2010/12/study-looks-brains-ability-see-future
I don't think it works like in the movies. I'm not saying it does or doesn't exist, it's just that I think that if there were psychic abilities, it wouldn't be like in the movies. For instance and I'm not saying I'm psychic but I've had some situations (one in particular I can think of) that could have saved my life but I ignored it thinking I was being paranoid.
This wasn't "just" a feeling, how do I describe it? It was more like a specific word and later on I found out why but for some reason I dismissed it. But it was sort of like a fixation on a certain word and I thought to myself, "that's really silly." Hard to explain but 4 years later and lots of turmoil later but I found out I was completely right. Not only was I right but I was right from the very moment I had that word drilled into my brain. It was weird but if I had listened to whatever it was, it could have save me some drama. It wasn't all bad and I learned a lot about people in those years but still, wish I would have listened.
In other situations, I've had weird deja vu, not JUST the feeling like I been there before but it was almost like a memory of me saying something I shouldn't and then upsetting the person driving. But it's weird, I don't actually remember what I was going to say, it was almost like a feeling, like a nagging at the back of my brain. Then, for some reason I knew what she was going to say and she said it exactly how my brain saw it and then even though I didn't know what I was going to say, I somehow knew I was going to say something that upset her (even though what she said wasn't a fight or anything) so I stopped and paused, then said something else. The deja vu feeling went away after that.
Of course I don't get this very often actually, I still have some feelings that linger and stuff but it doesn't happen as often as one may think. Like deja vu only really comes up once ever like 5 years or so and that incident that I described above was the only major time something like that happened. But I've had some other strange feelings in which I was 100% right and something I couldn't have possibly known.
So in my opinion, I do think all of us can possess such abilities (I'm not saying it's real, I just say that maybe it's a natural occurrence) but it's hampered by social conditioning, trauma, noise in the brain and other things. Who knows, I think realistically that would be possible. Like maybe changes in brain structure may darken what we can see and distorted perspectives. If we're all psychic and I think it's a possibility, it won't be like the movies where people claim to see the future, it's more jaded and jagged, pieces I guess.
On an irrelevant but semi relevant note, I've heard of people getting brain damage and all of a sudden they're savants (though it's very rare.) Like there was a person who could "see" math all around, it was in a documentary about brain damage victims and now they can paint things to the exact mathematical structure of something. They can "see" math in precise detail.
https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2010/12/study-looks-brains-ability-see-future
I don't think it works like in the movies. I'm not saying it does or doesn't exist, it's just that I think that if there were psychic abilities, it wouldn't be like in the movies. For instance and I'm not saying I'm psychic but I've had some situations (one in particular I can think of) that could have saved my life but I ignored it thinking I was being paranoid.
This wasn't "just" a feeling, how do I describe it? It was more like a specific word and later on I found out why but for some reason I dismissed it. But it was sort of like a fixation on a certain word and I thought to myself, "that's really silly." Hard to explain but 4 years later and lots of turmoil later but I found out I was completely right. Not only was I right but I was right from the very moment I had that word drilled into my brain. It was weird but if I had listened to whatever it was, it could have save me some drama. It wasn't all bad and I learned a lot about people in those years but still, wish I would have listened.
In other situations, I've had weird deja vu, not JUST the feeling like I been there before but it was almost like a memory of me saying something I shouldn't and then upsetting the person driving. But it's weird, I don't actually remember what I was going to say, it was almost like a feeling, like a nagging at the back of my brain. Then, for some reason I knew what she was going to say and she said it exactly how my brain saw it and then even though I didn't know what I was going to say, I somehow knew I was going to say something that upset her (even though what she said wasn't a fight or anything) so I stopped and paused, then said something else. The deja vu feeling went away after that.
Of course I don't get this very often actually, I still have some feelings that linger and stuff but it doesn't happen as often as one may think. Like deja vu only really comes up once ever like 5 years or so and that incident that I described above was the only major time something like that happened. But I've had some other strange feelings in which I was 100% right and something I couldn't have possibly known.
So in my opinion, I do think all of us can possess such abilities (I'm not saying it's real, I just say that maybe it's a natural occurrence) but it's hampered by social conditioning, trauma, noise in the brain and other things. Who knows, I think realistically that would be possible. Like maybe changes in brain structure may darken what we can see and distorted perspectives. If we're all psychic and I think it's a possibility, it won't be like the movies where people claim to see the future, it's more jaded and jagged, pieces I guess.
On an irrelevant but semi relevant note, I've heard of people getting brain damage and all of a sudden they're savants (though it's very rare.) Like there was a person who could "see" math all around, it was in a documentary about brain damage victims and now they can paint things to the exact mathematical structure of something. They can "see" math in precise detail.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
@Pikachu No I specifically remember a word popping into my head when I met this person but pushed it aside because I thought I was being paranoid. In fact, I gaslighted myself and thought I was crazy. Eventually I came to find out I was right, not only was I right but I had specific feelings about that apartment and it was too highly specific (as in not just a feeling but predicting what was going on) and four years later (by total accident) found out I was right.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@SatanBurger I legitimately believe it's a sense some people have that picks up on the energy other people put out when they think. I'm sure if there was a scientific study, it would explain it much more comprehensively, but there's something about your bioelectric field that changes based on what you're thinking. If people could pick up on that, it would basically be mind reading.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
How many psychic healers work in hospitals?
How many fortune tellers win the lottery?
How many fortune tellers win the lottery?
Yeah. As an atheist I actually do want something to exist but nothing has evidence. And my desire for something is not going to lead me down a rabbit hole of false beliefs just cause I want something to be true. I have actually been down that rabbit hole before and it was a dead end.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@canusernamebemyusername I wish I could introduce you to my friend. He won't let me share the video I have of him demonstrating his ability, so it's the only other way I could ever prove a single word of what I've said about him.
@canusernamebemyusername
There are many things that i'd like to exist. I just can't decide that they do without good evidence
There are many things that i'd like to exist. I just can't decide that they do without good evidence
@LordShadowfire
Have you considered that he doesn't want you to share it not because he's afraid to be exploited but because he's afraid his technique will be identified by one of the many other illusionists o the internet?
Have you considered that he doesn't want you to share it not because he's afraid to be exploited but because he's afraid his technique will be identified by one of the many other illusionists o the internet?
walabby · 70-79, M
Most genuine psychics seem to have the belief that they can't use their talent for serious personal gain.
I have seen some weird shit happen, but it's not reliable.
I have seen some weird shit happen, but it's not reliable.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@walabby I've heard about that. Like, they're afraid they'd lose their ability if they used it to help themselves.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
I was considering writing a story based on a man who had psychic powers which he used to contact the dead etc. I questioned where this story would fail and it does, why wouldn't he use his powers to win loads of money at poker or some other game where mind reading would be a huge asset? Screwed my story up but maybe gives you an answer to where all the psychics are at...
DallasCowboysFan · 61-69, M
@GeniUs Some psychics can predict the future and others can't, but they can tell you about your current situation or any health problems. For some reason, most psychics can't or won't predict lotto numbers or horse race winners. If they could, they would not accept 50 bucks from you or me to do it and allow us to walk away with $10MN while they get enough money for a tank of gas.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@DallasCowboysFan and that is why I don't believe psychics exist but it would make a great story if I could just come up with an idea for explaining away why they don't just use the skill to gain wealth. I'm not a fan of just hanging a lantern off it that ruins the whole story.
psychic or psycho which one we talking about.. oh right.. if they are psychic the goverment would snatch them up and use them as a weapon. then they become psycho.. so they keep that to themselves .. i would
@markansas
That's one of the more common excuses but i don't think it stands up to scrutiny.
There are many people who are happy to claim they have psychic ability and perport to demonstrate this power regularly...yet none of these people seem to be getting snatched up by the government.
And as i mentioned elsewhere, just look at the things people are willing to do on reality TV for a little fame or money and tell me you are convinced that not one single person with psychic abilities would be willing to exploit them for personal gain.
That's one of the more common excuses but i don't think it stands up to scrutiny.
There are many people who are happy to claim they have psychic ability and perport to demonstrate this power regularly...yet none of these people seem to be getting snatched up by the government.
And as i mentioned elsewhere, just look at the things people are willing to do on reality TV for a little fame or money and tell me you are convinced that not one single person with psychic abilities would be willing to exploit them for personal gain.
DallasCowboysFan · 61-69, M
There are many frauds in the psychic community, but many people have a natural gift that others don't share. Try looking up the Lilydale Community in NY or Cassadaga in Florida.
@DallasCowboysFan
I think what there are, are many frauds and many people who earnestly (but mistakenly) believe they have some kind of supernatural ability.
Because try as they might, no one ever seems to be able to demonstrate their gift under a controlled test environment.
And that does include people who genuinely believe that they have a gift and they become confused when it doesn't seem to be working when carefully tested.
I think what there are, are many frauds and many people who earnestly (but mistakenly) believe they have some kind of supernatural ability.
Because try as they might, no one ever seems to be able to demonstrate their gift under a controlled test environment.
And that does include people who genuinely believe that they have a gift and they become confused when it doesn't seem to be working when carefully tested.
DallasCowboysFan · 61-69, M
@Pikachu @Pikachu Who was that guy with wild hair and a white beard , in his 70's, that offered $1MN to anyone that could prove psychic powers worked? There were a few people that tried to take him up on the offer but he refused.
If someone was psychic.....and they were at least above average....I would simply ask them who will be the next 3 presidents.......or when will China attack Taiwan.......something major that everyone would know.
James Randy.......that is the man's name.
If someone was psychic.....and they were at least above average....I would simply ask them who will be the next 3 presidents.......or when will China attack Taiwan.......something major that everyone would know.
James Randy.......that is the man's name.
@DallasCowboysFan
Yeah James Randi. Exposed some frauds live on TV. Good times lol
But there are other large cash prizes offered beyond the one that Randi set up.
But it turns out that when the conditions are well-controlled, the apparent effect disappears back into statistical probability.
Yeah James Randi. Exposed some frauds live on TV. Good times lol
But there are other large cash prizes offered beyond the one that Randi set up.
But it turns out that when the conditions are well-controlled, the apparent effect disappears back into statistical probability.
Amylynne · 26-30, F
Hot take: seems to me that if psychic powers existed then at least one person would have proved it by now.
yes,, as you say all such "proofs" fall when examined closely
and the universal excuse of " the unbelievers jam up the signals so it can work with them seems all to convenient
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
@Amylynne I don't think anyone labeled anyone as an unbeliever. I don't know about anyone else but I said social conditioning, trauma, brain structural changes all change to how we listen to the environment. That's not labeling anyone an unbeliever.
Ferric67 · M
Are most of the people cons?
More than likely.
Is it possible to actually have abilities?
Possibly, after all....don't we use a small portion if our brains?
What if you could harness much more brain power?
More than likely.
Is it possible to actually have abilities?
Possibly, after all....don't we use a small portion if our brains?
What if you could harness much more brain power?
DallasCowboysFan · 61-69, M
@Ferric67 @Pikachu I think we do as well. It's just that scientists only understand 10 percent, so we often hear that only 10 percent is used. But that is because scientists are arrogant and they think that if they don't know something, it can't be known or that we can't possibly figure it out on our own.
Nature doesn't create waste. Everything has a purpose, from nasal hair to eyelashes to the gallbladder and appendix. The brain is the most sophisticated computer ever created.
I think that THE MIND exists within the brain and it does amazing things we don't understand yet.
It is separate and distinct frm the brain, and has its own consciousness.
From the amygdala to the pineal gland (third eye), there are a lot of things we don't understand.
Many people have gotten bumps on the head, or had a traumatic experience and become psychic, able to see auras, the future or sense the personality of others.
We have a lot to learn.
Nature doesn't create waste. Everything has a purpose, from nasal hair to eyelashes to the gallbladder and appendix. The brain is the most sophisticated computer ever created.
I think that THE MIND exists within the brain and it does amazing things we don't understand yet.
It is separate and distinct frm the brain, and has its own consciousness.
From the amygdala to the pineal gland (third eye), there are a lot of things we don't understand.
Many people have gotten bumps on the head, or had a traumatic experience and become psychic, able to see auras, the future or sense the personality of others.
We have a lot to learn.
Ferric67 · M
@DallasCowboysFan that's exactly how I feel
@DallasCowboysFan
I don't think i've ever heard that and i confess i'd be surprised if you could share, for example, a neurologist saying that we only understand 10% of the brain.
My dude...that is exactly the opposite of the attitude that scientists have towards discovery.
Scientists say rather if we don't know something now, we just need to keep trying until we do.
If they reject a hypothesis as impossible it is because there is a preponderance of evidence which points to this conclusion.
The idea that if we don't know something then it is unknowable is much more characteristic of a faith-based worldview.
Agreed.
The mind appears to be an emergent property of the brain.
Disagree.
There is no example of a mind that exists completely discretely from a brain.
If that were so then i think we'd be seeing at least ONE of these people demonstrating the power under controlled conditions.
. It's just that scientists only understand 10 percent,
I don't think i've ever heard that and i confess i'd be surprised if you could share, for example, a neurologist saying that we only understand 10% of the brain.
scientists are arrogant and they think that if they don't know something, it can't be known or that we can't possibly figure it out on our own.
My dude...that is exactly the opposite of the attitude that scientists have towards discovery.
Scientists say rather if we don't know something now, we just need to keep trying until we do.
If they reject a hypothesis as impossible it is because there is a preponderance of evidence which points to this conclusion.
The idea that if we don't know something then it is unknowable is much more characteristic of a faith-based worldview.
I think that THE MIND exists within the brain and it does amazing things we don't understand yet.
Agreed.
The mind appears to be an emergent property of the brain.
It is separate and distinct frm the brain, and has its own consciousness.
Disagree.
There is no example of a mind that exists completely discretely from a brain.
Many people have gotten bumps on the head, or had a traumatic experience and become psychic, able to see auras, the future or sense the personality of others.
If that were so then i think we'd be seeing at least ONE of these people demonstrating the power under controlled conditions.
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
https://thedailyguardian.com/revealed-secret-us-government-psychic-research-programmes/
@Starcrossed [media=https://youtu.be/qXnR7UiViCU]
@Starcrossed
Uh huh. Funny how these things tend to come out not in documented papers but in articles or books.
Like i said, why does no one ever demonstrate such powers?
Why is it always un-verified claims or hearsay?
Uh huh. Funny how these things tend to come out not in documented papers but in articles or books.
Like i said, why does no one ever demonstrate such powers?
Why is it always un-verified claims or hearsay?
PoeticPlay · 51-55, M
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Who didn't see that coming? 🙄
Stay tuned for more of "I shall see myself out. Good day." 😶
Who didn't see that coming? 🙄
Stay tuned for more of "I shall see myself out. Good day." 😶
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
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ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Because testing keeps disproving it?
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lol is that something you do irl? I don't think it translates very well in text...
lol is that something you do irl? I don't think it translates very well in text...
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@MidwestMonster I'm sensing a theme with your comments...
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Good question. I suppose one possible reason is that people with genuine abilities are afraid they'll be taken advantage of, but I don't know. I have a friend who has demonstrated some mild telekinetic ability, but he refuses to let me share video, because he's afraid of the military trying to weaponize him.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Pikachu Good point. They are all unique, just like everyone else. And who knows? Maybe some of them have offered to help people with their powers. Some of these so-called psychic detectives might be actual psychic detectives.
@LordShadowfire
lol then you'd think they could come up with something better than "the body will be found near water"
lol then you'd think they could come up with something better than "the body will be found near water"
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Pikachu True... true.