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Carazaa · F
Pikachu what do you think God is saying here? It's important to not jump to conclusions. Are you reading the Bible to find fault or search out Gods ways?
I am 100% sure there is no contradiction so I will study this and let you know why you are maybe jumping to conclusions.
I am 100% sure there is no contradiction so I will study this and let you know why you are maybe jumping to conclusions.
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DudeistPriest · M
When Balaam "got up in the morning" he should've waited for God's instruction first and not been so eager to go with the princes. Saddling his donkey first thing and going right away indicated to God that he was too eager. The real test was whether Balaam would give authority to the princes [i]before [/i]God. A bit of splitting hairs here but the distinction is there.
When the princes first called on him and urgently implored him to go with them, he did not wait for God to instruct him to go, he jumped the gun and went as per the princes' instruction instead. Sounds like it was a test of patience and who Balaam gave ultimate authority to - God or the princes. Looks like he followed princely instruction first therefore recognizing their authority above God's.
When the princes first called on him and urgently implored him to go with them, he did not wait for God to instruct him to go, he jumped the gun and went as per the princes' instruction instead. Sounds like it was a test of patience and who Balaam gave ultimate authority to - God or the princes. Looks like he followed princely instruction first therefore recognizing their authority above God's.
@DudeistPriest
Oh i'm fore sure a n00b at scripture.
Sorry bud, but that sounded pretty antagonistic and i'm fairly sure you meant it to be so. No real reason for that, right?
Sorry if i'm wrong, obviously.
I couldn't agree with you more that i have a lot more learning and talking to do about the bible.
But i can't help but noticed you've decided that the right time to scold me about my experience is when you're faced with two very simple, [i]direct[/i] questions.
[b]Do you think after god having told him to go, Balaam should have waited for god to tell him a [i]second[/i] time?
Yes or no?
You believe it is appropriate to make god tell you to do something [i]twice[/i]?
Yes or no.[/b]
Come on, man. Show of good faith. I'm a n00b. Genuinely, no joke. So help me out.
Yes or no?
Oh i'm fore sure a n00b at scripture.
Sorry bud, but that sounded pretty antagonistic and i'm fairly sure you meant it to be so. No real reason for that, right?
Sorry if i'm wrong, obviously.
I couldn't agree with you more that i have a lot more learning and talking to do about the bible.
But i can't help but noticed you've decided that the right time to scold me about my experience is when you're faced with two very simple, [i]direct[/i] questions.
[b]Do you think after god having told him to go, Balaam should have waited for god to tell him a [i]second[/i] time?
Yes or no?
You believe it is appropriate to make god tell you to do something [i]twice[/i]?
Yes or no.[/b]
Come on, man. Show of good faith. I'm a n00b. Genuinely, no joke. So help me out.
Yes or no?
DudeistPriest · M
@Pikachu NO and NO. If you have to wait a second time, you're not in tight with Him. Also, it's not really appropriate to make God do things twice; that's shows you're not listening. That's my 2¢.
It's a rough road at first, but stay on it, it only seems that way. It gets easier. And yes, you're welcome to any interpretation you darn well please and even change your mind later when you get more info. Sharing with others once in a while benefits others too. Good for you.
It's a rough road at first, but stay on it, it only seems that way. It gets easier. And yes, you're welcome to any interpretation you darn well please and even change your mind later when you get more info. Sharing with others once in a while benefits others too. Good for you.
@DudeistPriest
[quote]NO and NO. If you have to wait a second time, you're not in tight with Him. Also, it's not really appropriate to make God do things twice; that's shows you're not listening[/quote]
I agree.
If god tells you to do something then you do it the first time he says it.
So beg pardon, but you now appear to be contradicting yourself. Perhaps you can clarify for me.
You've agreed that god should only have to tell you to do something once.
But you said this: [quote]the guy wakes up; he should've waited right there for God to instruct him (a sign or something) giving him permission[quote][/quote][/quote]
So given that god had [i]already[/i] told Balaam to go with the princes of Moab, should he have waited for god to tell him again (as you appear to be suggesting there) or should he have immediately done what he did: get up and go.
I'm sure you can appreciate that these appear to be mutually exclusive positions, yes?
[quote]NO and NO. If you have to wait a second time, you're not in tight with Him. Also, it's not really appropriate to make God do things twice; that's shows you're not listening[/quote]
I agree.
If god tells you to do something then you do it the first time he says it.
So beg pardon, but you now appear to be contradicting yourself. Perhaps you can clarify for me.
You've agreed that god should only have to tell you to do something once.
But you said this: [quote]the guy wakes up; he should've waited right there for God to instruct him (a sign or something) giving him permission[quote][/quote][/quote]
So given that god had [i]already[/i] told Balaam to go with the princes of Moab, should he have waited for god to tell him again (as you appear to be suggesting there) or should he have immediately done what he did: get up and go.
I'm sure you can appreciate that these appear to be mutually exclusive positions, yes?
Straylight · 31-35, F
I like the one when Israelites prayed to God because they were running out of food and water, so God sent venomous snakes to bite them.
Carazaa · F
@Pikachu The animal shelter in town kill dogs. They are not abusing them. It is not an equal relationship between dog and man. I got my dog from the pound because I hate it that they kill them after 10 days. But they have that right. I will call you an abuser from now on if I ever hear that you kill an ant, cockroach, or fly in your house. You are wrong that god is abusive!
@Carazaa
There's a world of difference between putting a dog down because they can't look after it and [i]beating[/i] a dog for peeing on the rug.
There's a world of difference between killing a pest and telling someone you love that you're hurting them and it's their fault.
"I love you! You're making me hurt you! This is your fault! "
That's what an abuser does.
I think it's fair to say we're not going to agree on this, carazaa. So let's just let it be🙂
There's a world of difference between putting a dog down because they can't look after it and [i]beating[/i] a dog for peeing on the rug.
There's a world of difference between killing a pest and telling someone you love that you're hurting them and it's their fault.
"I love you! You're making me hurt you! This is your fault! "
That's what an abuser does.
I think it's fair to say we're not going to agree on this, carazaa. So let's just let it be🙂
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
They can't explain.. they aren't logical, they don't work that way..
Their MO is to insist, repeatedly that we explain evolution, how cells first came about and prove god doesn't exist.. while they do nothing to prove he does..
I can explain the contradiction you highlight though :P It was written by men a long time ago and they made mistakes!
Their MO is to insist, repeatedly that we explain evolution, how cells first came about and prove god doesn't exist.. while they do nothing to prove he does..
I can explain the contradiction you highlight though :P It was written by men a long time ago and they made mistakes!
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Penny · 46-50, F
maybe he werent supposed to bring his servants?
@Penny
Well he didn't say anything about not bringing his servants either.
He didn't say anything about wearing clothes or taking food or a donkey either but one would reasonably expect him to bring all of these things.
Don't you think god would have told him not to if that's what he wanted?
I mean, the dude describes how to build every single piece of the tabernacle down to the weight and material of the lampstands and what kind of animal to burn and how for different kinds of offerings. He's actually pretty keen on details.
Well he didn't say anything about not bringing his servants either.
He didn't say anything about wearing clothes or taking food or a donkey either but one would reasonably expect him to bring all of these things.
Don't you think god would have told him not to if that's what he wanted?
I mean, the dude describes how to build every single piece of the tabernacle down to the weight and material of the lampstands and what kind of animal to burn and how for different kinds of offerings. He's actually pretty keen on details.
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DudeistPriest · M
@Pikachu Dude, just click and start reading. You become well informed. Scripture is scripture. Don't let them tell you one scriptural body is better than another or has a monopoly on anything: http://www.wright-house.com/religions/islam/Quran.html
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