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A Step Towards Equality?

A women who abused her husband has been sentenced to 4 years imprisonment - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11798583/Prison-reform-boss-grins-jailed-20-year-campaign-abuse-against-husband.html Considering the level of abuse, she was let off quite lighty but at least it's a step in the right direction.

It's notable that the sentencing judge was a women. Some commentators suggest that was why she got such a light sentence but, from what I've seen in other cases, a male judge would probably have been even more lenient.

It's about time the police and courts starting treating female on male domestic abuse seriously. All too often male victims are fobbed off with "It's not a police matter, Sir."
SteelHands · 61-69, M
I don't know about this case but know many victims will forgive and patiently hope the abuser will stop. Then get fed up and finally fight back -

at which point - the conniving abusers pose as victim. Courts happily prosecute whichever brings the formal charges first.
In some cases that means the actual victim gets marked for life with a record as a domestic abuser.

(Ghee the government doesn't really care? Oh don't worry melvin they do Just not the [i][b]way[/b][/i] you think they do.)

My take it or leave it advice? Get out immediately at the first indication. When someone abuses and you're patiently waiting out of love for it to stop - avoid being accused and further abused as an abuser by the court.

Remember capn Jack.
Sharon · F
@SteelHands [quote]Courts happily prosecute whichever brings the formal charges first.[/quote]
In practice that's usually the woman because the police routinely refuse to accept male victims' complaints of female perpetrated abuse.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Sharon Hm yes, appearancism is alive and well. Those appearances can make or break all standing prejudices by rookie authority figures. A smallerish diminuitive looking man or woman will almost always prevail in those prejudices. The heavier or stockier one, regardless which one is the habitual hitter, especially ones that are willing to self inflict or have a health issue that make bruising anywhere on the body to show his or her own "evidence" to police and courts.

My own experiences taught me this. I'm terribly regretful not to have spoken more openly since now someone near to me, actually my son, has been victimized by courts in a similar way and prevented from seeing his child almost completely. It's devastating to live through being branded the bad guy when you know you're not. It's even more painful to see someone else become so misled that they walk right into a trap like that which you know it would be absolutely ridiculously impossible to dissuade them. And now that he knows it doesn't vindicate or make me feel any better. I feel worse actually. All of it could have been avoided had I myself not allowed myself to walk into what was essentially that same circumstance.

That's why I'm so glad Mr. Depp won his lawsuit. I know exactly what happened there and don't doubt myself in the least. I can say tho that my blonde was far smaller and more beautiful then his. Lol
Ynotisay · M
I have a lawyer friend who works in the field and he's told me that female on male DV could make up about 40 percent of the cases. If not more. And that's because men don't report. Often out of embarrassment.
If you go to any most DV help site you'll see that it's entirely geared towards men on female cases. It's not that women shouldn't be supported in every way possible if they're in an abusive relationship. They should be. But it's so one-sided that it doesn't make much sense to me. It's a societal thing. No doubt.
Boys are taught, rightfully so, that you don't hit girls. But a whole lot of girls grow up to be women who tee off on their partners because they don't think they'll be hit back.
It's a really interesting dynamic.
Ducky · 31-35, F
Still not the same punishment we’d see if the genders were reversed, but it’s a start, I suppose. This double standard needs to end.
Sharon · F
@Ducky A man got 18 months for one incident of abuse - https://uk.news.yahoo.com/man-grabbed-girlfriend-throat-during-050000405.html?guccounter=1 That's gives some idea of the anti-male bias in the judicial system.
smiler2012 · 56-60
{@caroline259] precisely abuse is abuse no matter which gender on which . far a lenient sentence there should be no bias towards someone of the same gender out of gender loyalty. a judge is there to uphold the full force of the law and sentence the criminal accordingly within the power of the law
alan20 · M
Respect for the rights of other individuals regardless of gender, might be the ultimate ideal. Violence should only be an option for self-defence with no other option.
DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
I refer you to the book by relationship counselor Ann Slivers:"Abuse OF Men BY Women."It's very revealing.
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@DavidT8899 I don't know that particular book but, as a paramedic who had atended several incidents involving a male victim of a female abuser and being married to a man who was frequently badly injured by his former (female) partner, I'm well aware of how prevalent female on male domestic abuse is.
DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
@Caroline259 It is available on Amazon.Get it;read it.As I said,it's eye- opening.
DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
@Caroline259 If a woman does that to a man,it's every but as disgusting as a man doing it to a woman.
DrWatson · 70-79, M
I attended the sentencing hearing for a sexual abuser. The defense attorney and the prosecuting attorney each brought up a case that they argued was comparable and therefore should guide the judge's decision.

The judge was annoyed at both of them, saying "This is [i]my[/i] court", and that he would make his own decisions.

If that was typical of how judges think, then in the present case, the best way to assess whether this sentence was "light" or not might be to look at previous decisions by the same judge.
Pretzel · 61-69, M
if we're going to have equality - then men can be the victims of abuse as well.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
There always has been a dual standard in charging women with violence.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
Any woman hits me and she gets it right back.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
I read recently about two women who abused children,I think the abuarrs were sisters. They were both spared jail as they are deaf. Sickening.
Also I read yesterday of a priest in Scotland,he abused four girls,he was sentences to 250 hours unpaid work.
No jail time whatsoever. Again..sickening.
Funlov · M
Most men just don’t speak up and to many ladies don’t speak up it’s a disease in today’s society that’s my opinion
@Funlov There's no point in speaking up... even if you do, you either get sent back or placed back in the same situation or worse.

We now have women choosing to get off the mainland before they report the abuse because they know that our overseas territories will treat them better than they would get at home.
Any abuser should serve time, regardless of gender. Comparably, any adult who initiates a sexual act with someone underage should serve time, regard of gender.
About fucking time.
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Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@SW-User All the independent studies show that female on male abuse is at least as prevalent as [i]vice versa[/i]. As a paramedic, most domestic abuse incidents I've attended have involved a male victim of a female abuser. Some of that is due to the fact that it is far easier for abused women to get the police to take action before they're seriously injured. I've actually attended more incidents involving women being assaulted by other women in women's refuges than by male partners in their homes.

 
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