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Ngl I'm kinda annoyed the Tok is banned

I had so many recipes saved it's not even funny, I made a few recipes that were pretty decent. All because they're so concerned that the Chinese can sell what prn you watch so they can give you propaganda or something. I wasn't entirely clear since we're also bombarded with propaganda from like everything and everyone already but whatever America *rolls eyes*
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GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
A KGB spy and a CIA agent
meet up in a bar for a friendly drink...

"I have to admit, I'm always so impressed by Soviet
propaganda. You really know
how to get people worked up"
the CIA agent says.

"Thank you," the KGB agent says. "We do our best but truly, it's nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people
believe everything your state media tells them."

The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. "Thank you friend, but you must be confused... There's no propaganda in America."

SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@GeistInTheMachine Hahahaha this is exactly it 😂
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I think it's more that both your major parties want to remove a competitor for their donors.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Burnley123 That's a valid fear, maga is a cult sickness. There's a good show called American horror story, the season is cult that touches on Trump fanatics so it is a valid worry to have.

What's striking is that the people before they were maga, some were even atheists. I've been paying attention to things like this girl's dad was overtaken with maga and he started out as an atheist before and then accused her of being a communist.

So it's def something there
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Burnley123 I'm equally worried about both. Look at Romania, that was mostly if not uniquely TikTok's effort

What concerns me the most about TikTok is how quickly it rose in popularity, and how addictive it is, and how it's now bowing to Trump too (see the message in the shutdown popup)

Twitter and Meta both took pretty much a couple of decades to become as popular as they're now, during which there weren't big platforms to compete against. They're big because they were the first to come, and people are lazy to try out alternatives basically (plus when they do most people they know don't, so the remain anchored to the first platform). TikTok is unique in nor only how quickly it rose but also in how it remained relevant in spite of the duopoly of the other two. Lastly if they banned FB people would probably celebrate, this outrage we're seeing about TikTok I'm not sure could've been replicated even if they banned X. Neither are anywhere as addictive.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Elessar I'm on tikrok. And I get it.
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
I feel bad, my mom loves it
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Rolexeo Yeah I know that parents feel alienated sometimes because it's a different time for them and it's a means of connecting with the world so I get why you would feel bad.

I'm a little annoyed ngl. Like I don't care if a spy has my information, let me make that choice for myself. I'm not scared of China so there's that.
Frostcloud · F
@SatanBurger i've talked about it a million times already SORRY but it's not about data. android and iphones can't even securely text eachother. your phone listens to passive conversations and advertises to you based on them. if you use apple you just got an update where ai tracks everything you do to see how you use your phone. same with windows (i think?).

idc if china has my data 😐

it's a free speech issue and i've no doubt it won't be the last ban
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Frostcloud I agree with you too and think it's likely the reason
Ema83748201 · 18-21
Look tik tok is crazy. If you don't think it's a huge danger to trump it is. In romania a person was voted just bc of tik tok. He almost became our president. He was pretty much a communist that loves russia
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Ema83748201 Nah tik Tok is only crazy if you're a crazy person who looks up crazy things. Most of mine were recipe and pet videos, also saw a lot of positive stuff. And there's one issue voters everywhere, they vote based on only one issue and nothing else
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deadgerbil · 26-30, M
Exactly, a large % of the people who pushed for it are boomers who break out in hives with technology. The others are people who are paranoid over everything and shouldn't be taken seriously.
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Elessar · 26-30, M
@deadgerbil It's no better and no worse than X, its purpose is shaping public discourse, it's not paranoia calling it out when it happens in broad daylight:

- https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-opens-investigation-into-tiktok-over-romanian-election/

- https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1ww6vz1l81o

- and heck, look literally at yesterday's popup praising Trump

Ideally they should be all regulated, if not banned. I'm absolutely on board with saying it's hypocritical targeting one and not the another, but thinking that it's harmless clashes hard with observable reality imo
Lilymoon · F
Pinterest has a lot of recipes 😛
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Lilymoon Thank you 😊
Frostcloud · F
ill miss my recipes and memes and grief tiktoks
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Frostcloud same but instead of grief it was cats lol. Recipes, cats and memes 🤣
Degbeme · 70-79, M
Food Network?
Degbeme · 70-79, M
@SatanBurger I have no idea what keto is. I`m not sure what else to suggest.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Degbeme I use Instagram for the most part but I did have a bunch of recipes saved I'll have to go find now
Degbeme · 70-79, M
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
You didn't notice, did you? They shut it off before the ban was supposed to take place with a blatantly аss-kissing message about our resident rump. That's exactly how to talk to Donald to get him to do things for you. They'll be back.

(Please note that I'm not saying anything negative about this action by them. It's smart.)
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@LordShadowfire I noticed that too and thought the message was strange. But they were smart about appealing to Trump's narcissism. If you make it like it was his decision, he can feel good about himself.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@SatanBurger Like I say, I'm not necessarily faulting the owners of TikTok for doing the smart thing, but I am watching them.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Yet China can own land in America?
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Justenjoyit · 61-69, M
You can use a Vpn to get around the US ban
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Justenjoyit It doesn't work, American accounts are flagged as such and the ban is effective regardless of the nation you login from

This isn't properly a ban (the country preventing you to use a website), but a shutdown (the website itself blocking a nation)
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@SatanBurger Dark web hackers can still see where you are with a VPN.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@MrBrownstone we're talking about how to access tiktok and if we can on VPNs or not. And I said VPN messed with my connection. I mentioned hackers cos it made me wonder if the computer company put a shadow program in to counteract vpns and mess it up
JohnOlinger81 · 41-45, M
its a Temporary Ban it will be Back Up. & Running. Again When Trump Saves It
Bang5luts · M
The US government does that already and they do not appreciate the value of any level of competitors or competition.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Bang5luts Well see my issue is, I've never seen so called Chinese propaganda on tiktok. I've seen cat videos, recipes, stupid memes but nothing even remotely pro China.

So it's like they want to make the case of propaganda but I've never even seen anything close to it. It kinda sounds like a case of what is that word when you're scared of foreigners?

Something like that.

I do get that China does propaganda and stuff like that so I'm not sticking up for them, I've been a long criticizer of China's treatment of Tibetan Buddhism and other groups. I know their history full well but it's an issue if you're making up things for future events that never happened as a reason to outright ban something.

What happens if citizens use Facebook to criticize our government, will they ban that next?

It leaves a sour taste in the mouth.
Bang5luts · M
All I know @SatanBurger is our government has nefarious motives.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@KingofBones1 But this post is talking about the Tok and you said it's good cos it get rid of a few communists. Is there anyone on that platform that sold classified documents?
KingofBones1 · 46-50, M
@SatanBurger I'm not talking about the users.I'm talking about the administrators and the owners big difference.The people that are using it are just being led along like cattle

 
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