"Chips"? Or "crisps" in a packet labelled in a mixture of Norwegian and American? :-)
I didn't realise the words "salt" and "pepper" are the same in both languages.
Perhaps Matt couldn't decide if Norway or New Zealand, which uses the same word fjord for its own marine-drowned glacial valleys!
That swan was certainly determined to see you off. Have you visited Abbotsbury Swannery? Although the swans there are all wild and free to come and go as they please, they are so used to people and the Fleet lagoon is so much to their liking, that many of them build nests right next to the footpaths around the reserve.
@ArishMell Yes crisps are chips here. And in my opinion Norwegian made crisps are the best in the world.
Salt comes from Latin sal in both languages. Norwegian is very closely related to English in practice even if a strict linguistic family tree suggests otherwise.
For instance this from Glottolog (https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/nort3175) suggests that English is more closely related to German than it is to Norwegian.
But in fact modern Norwegian syntax is pretty much the same as modern English and if you squint a bit and speak with a Geordie accent you can see and hear that a number of common words are the same or similar in the two languages. In some cases the pronunciation has drifted, in my opinion because of the influence of writing. So skjære became skerry
Norsk English bag = bag bok = book bolt = bolt båt = boat bøtte = bucket eple = apple flaske = flask, bottle flat = flat formel = formula grådig = greedy hjul = wheel, try pronouncing it Scots style hweel. hus = house høy = high in = in as in fashionable inne = in as in inside is = ice, Norwegian s is always not z kirke = church knive = knife land = land, country lav = low mugge = mug, jug ofte = often rest = rest, remaining ryggsekk = rucksack sand = sand sekk = sack, bag sjø = sea skip = ship skrue = screw skrue løs = screw loose stein = stone ut = out vei = way, road
I did try to learn basic Norwegian and thought it easier than French or German, but I am not good at learning languages beyond a few politenesses and everyday words, and a peculiar collection of geographical name elements. Knowing what Kvitfjell and kirke mean would not be much help if I were lost in Oslo city-centre.
Aye and Nay... Yorkshire-speak is richly Scandinavian, and the Dales (another one) even has one a particular stream called "Fell Beck" that not only means Fjell Bekk but describes it exactly. More accurately it is on a fjell between three dalen.
Of which one, Chapel-le-Dale, seems to combine English, French and Norwegian. Norman perhaps? Those 1066 invaders from France were descended from Norse settlers but their own languages were Latin and Latin-inspired, Early French.
There are many thoroughfares called [name] Gate, in the old parts of Northern English towns, and I wonder if this really means ~ Street, not citing Mediaeval defensive barriers even if they once started at one.
Kirke is kirk in Scotland, where, as in Northumbria, a barn is a bairn, though they use "grand" not chains of "barns" to denote family lines.
I wonder where the first half of rucksack originated, and what it meant? The item and its name are relatively modern, and ruck / rygge looks Germanic.
I'm amused to see both countries use "screw loose"!
Rather sad that the snack makers use the American term rather than English - I consider Norway and Britain rather closer in more than just geography, than the USA and UK.
@ArishMell Ryggsekk is rygg = back or spine and sekk = sack. And yes, the back is der rucken in Germanic
Nay and nei seem obviously the same word, but English aye seems only distantly related to norsk ja to me.
Well kirke might be useful in Oslo if you wanted to find a church :-)
I'm very bad at languages too. It took me five years to learn Norwegian well enough to be useful and even now over thirty years later a general conversation about politics or history is pretty stressful. I can manage more technical discussions in my field much more easily. Learning it was made more difficult by Norwegians being so willing or indeed eager to switch to English. I had one colleague who just wouldn't speak Norwegian with me because he was to impatient to wait for me to find the right Norwegian word.
As for the politenesses, I've found them to be counterproductive because after a bit of practice my accent in Polish or German or Chinese became good enough to convince the locals that I know more than just "good morning". Some would respond just with the appropriate formula which was fine but others would start a conversation about the weather or current affairs and were mystified when I looked totally blank.
@turbineman40 Yes, that's true but the cygnets are almost fully grown now so he wasn't as aggressive as he would have been if his mate had been on the est with them. He didn't go after me and I was careful to give him as much space as I could. But there was no way of getting past him without walking between him and the rest of the family that was out in the water about thirty metres away.
My walk today took me to the post office to post a parcel. But it's also a supermarket and I had an urge for a packet of crisps so that I could have a crisp sandwich for breakfast. Not the healthiest breakfast but I haven't had one in ages.
Just received a text from my dentist reminding me of my annual check up in three weeks time. That will be another small step. I wonder what i should wear?
@being It's not all that random. I think this pair have lived within a couple of hundred metres of where I saw them today for several years. At least we live in the same village. When I go for a walk around the village i often encounter the same people.
