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Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
Define"teach kids" telling them lies, making unsubstantiated promises, and scaring them with "The devil's gonna gitch ya if you don't watch out!" Is not helpful. Pushing doctrines full of bigotry, misogyny, and murder for the sake of power and money doesnt seem right.

I'm not sure how one would really explain ethics and morality to a four year old using religious doctrines as they exist.

Using the concepts of:
Appropriate speech and actions to not hurt other people,
Being loving and caring,
showing empathy and support to those in need,
and sharing are probably better
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Tastyfrzz I'm inclined to agree with this 100%. And these are the principles behind most of the major religions in this world before people started messing with them and adding all kinds of hateful bs.

MoveAlong · 70-79, M
IMO it's not right. But it's not illegal either. I was raised by religious parents in a religious community. By time I was an adult I saw through it. You just have to hope others will too.

One thing to remember: Most of these parents don't actually adhere the religious practices they are trying to instill in their children. That's the reason most of them are failing at what they are trying to do. More and more people identify as atheist or agnostic every year.
PinkMoon · 26-30, F
Yes. They'll grow up to question it and decide for themselves if they want to continue to practice it. I was raised Christian and while I'm not religious the religious education I got as a child did me a lot of good.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@PinkMoon I would argue that having a religious education as a kid didn't do me a lot of good, but it could simply be because I ultimately turned from it. I did retain the message of empathy, I suppose.
PinkMoon · 26-30, F
@LordShadowfire The message of empathy is the only one that truly matters.
4meAndyou · F
In my younger and more foolish days, I decided it was NOT right. My son had been baptized in his father's church, and that religion did NOT believe in baptism until adulthood. Being a former Catholic, I was freaked out and insisted that my son had to be baptized right away....but I did nothing to force him into any religion.

Later, without the same moral grounding that I had, he became someone I didn't quite understand.
AngelUnforgiven · 51-55, F
Personally and it's just my opinion, i think parents should raise their children however they see fit, within reason as long as its healthy of course. But once that child becomes of age they should be able to make their own decisions. I mean lets be realistic here if your whole family was lets say raised catholic then your children will accompany you to church because who says that their 5 year old is the only one in the family who isn't so he doesn't have to attend? So Lets just be realistic. Minors just have to go with the flow in life.
It's fine to teach them about various religions so when they are ready to decide for themselves, they know what their options are. It is not ok to indoctrinate them with a specific religion and scare them about not following that.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
I think learning about stuff is good, they can make up their own minds though.
onewithshoes · 26-30, F
Religion is often an important a part of the cultural as well as the spiritual identity of ones family, and thus an important part of what what parents should be sharing should be sharing with their children. .
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
It is no different than brainwashing.


Even Aristotle did it though. And he wasn't religious.

This is 400 BCE. So don't don't say Christianity doesn't do it! Even Jewish follow Aristotle's principles.

The very hierarchy of the Catholic Church is based on the Roman Republic. Which was based on Plato's Republic. The very mentor of Aristotle.

So if you want your children to be ARISTOCRATIC, then you teach religion!

If you don't want your children to be ARISTOCRATIC (more social) then you don't teach religion.

You're not going to get around not brainwashing. One way or the other.

Children are in school to learn by examples! The type of examples doesn't matter. They will learn it.

Unlike adults, children rapidly adapt.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Tastyfrzz guy! He was influenced by you!
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@DeWayfarer Probably. I told him to read a lot of stuff and make up his own mind.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Tastyfrzz That is the problem with this type of education regardless of the type of education.

The child will follow it's mentor.

Socrates, Plato and Aristotle were ALL atheists.

It has little to do with the type of beliefs.
exexec · 70-79, C
I think you teach them religious stories with good lessons but stay away from theology. Answer questions honestly. "I don't know" is an acceptable answer.
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
Yes, of course, and don't teach them about anything else before they are old enough to decide.

I don't know on what basis they are going to decide if you have not taught them anything, but go ahead.
ABCDEF7 · M
Let them learn and understand all religions. Have open discussions with them. Ask them to follow only what they understand.
@ABCDEF7 exactly right. i do think parents should take their kids to church as a community event. it might give them a sense of belonging
ABCDEF7 · M
@LILY61 There are different ways to connect with the same, Or you can say, there are different paths to reach the same destination. Different people find different path more suited to them.
@ABCDEF7 it is all good. i am saying that the Sunday trek to church is good as a community builder. i don't think children need to be beaten or harassed by bible thumping whacko's
Maya15 · F
yes it's right to educate children about religion. children don't need to be able to decide to learn things. they have to learn before they can decide.
Maya15 · F
@LordShadowfire yeah and that teaches not to take it too seriously. you know.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Maya15 Exactly. If one religion does appeal to them, they've at least learned to respect the rest of them.
22Michelle · 70-79, T
@Maya15 Religion is something that's been dreamed up by somebody way back in history and has been used as a wsh of controlling and exploiting others. And if you need a religion to tell you to try and be a nice considerate person then you have serious issues that no fairy story is going to fix.
faery · 31-35, F
If you want to indoctrinate, start early. I, personally, think it would be best to teach the history of all known religions throughout the world.
FloorGenAdm · 51-55, M
Ain't it better than the kid worshipping Taco Bell?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@FloorGenAdm Not really. Taco Bell exists.
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Adstar · 56-60, M
Yes.. Because they eventually decide what they are going to accept and reject anyway.. No one is locked into a belief simply because thats what was taught to them..
Pfuzylogic · M
If you personally believe in a religion then your children are entitled to learn what you believe.
@Pfuzylogic there's a difference between teaching them what you believe and teaching them to follow that though. This post asked about the latter.
Pfuzylogic · M
@NerdyPotato For me it was both. In the Christian religion it was a matter of salvation.
That is a very personal matter and I prefer that someone that doesn’t believe not to counsel me.
Elessar · 26-30, M
In an ideal world, no. But we don't live in one.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
No -- but that's pretty much how religion has always worked: get the kids before they can think for themselves.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Absolutely not. It's one of those things that shouldn't be legal, but you can't make illegal without opening the door to a whole lot of very ridiculous laws.
SkeetSkeet · 100+, F
No. All it taught me was my armpits are sexy and need to be hidden
Adogslife · 61-69, M
Sure. What can go wrong with indoctrination?

Think of it this way. No child would willfully choose religion. Without your enforcement, religion would cease to exist.
KingofBones1 · 46-50, M
No that's called indoctrination
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Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Below the age of reason they need some moral compass. Most religions teach that except Allah
It depends on the organized religion you're talking about. Some are educational whereas others are nothing more than a self-serving, cult following.
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
Idk, I think the threat of hell fucks people up mentally at least.
22Michelle · 70-79, T
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