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Masculinity is so fragile that people think it's more important to teach women to reject a man politely

than it is to teach men to accept rejection peacefully.

A shameful state of affairs. Anyone who gets upset by this is on the wrong side.
Period.
Matt85 · 36-40, M
Well rejection is fine. You can't force anyone to like you, I think that's what some guys need to understand.

Personally I really appreciated the politeness of a certain woman who rejected my advances recently, someone I still talk to but have totally knocked the flirting on the head.
SlaveEt · 36-40, F
Why don't we teach both courtesy and how to deal with rejection?🤔
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being · 36-40, F
Don't judge them harshly, none has it easy...
being · 36-40, F
@Pikachu we shouldn't judge harshly anyone I'm saying.
But it's a good idea to foster better education on sensual affairs.. schools do very little. But I do trust in teachers..
@being

we shouldn't judge harshly anyone I'm saying.

There are plenty of people who we should judge harshly. I'm sure if you take a casual look back through history you could come up with some examples.

In this context you're right: no one has it easy but not everyone makes the choice to react violently or toxically.
Having it hard is not an excuse for bad behaviour.
being · 36-40, F
@Pikachu you are right, I didn't understand it was going that far. We were talking about rejection, not rape.
But there's aaaalll this gray scale in between.
It's best for women to be precise about what they want, but sometimes, we don't see it coming.
We were being joyous, inclusive and natural and this many times is misinterpreted.
Men need to be taught to listen to our words.

Because for a long time there was a prevalent opinion that "when a woman says no means yes" .
We as women should also make an effort to live by our words and be clear.
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Adogslife · 61-69, M
It’s not really rejection. Different people have different wants for compatibility. It’s never bothered me, nor do I think it bothers most men.
@Adogslife It's very much tied up in masculinity and patriarchy.
A man who can't get a woman is a lesser man and so a man rejected by a woman feels his masculinity is under attack.
He likely won't frame it in that way. He'll just feel outraged and angry toward to woman because his ego demands that the object of his attraction submit to him.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
@Pikachu I think of that as the simple minded machismo type, which I suppose could be thought of as masculinity. I’m just shocked that you’re inferring it’s a majority of men.

I’ve really only seen it once with an attractive woman I was dating. She’d get hit on non stop. Some rather brazenly imho. She took it in stride, but it seemed like a real pain in the ass as an onlooker.
@Adogslife

I never said it was the majority of men. But it is too many men.
redredred · M
A polite refusal is one thing. A snotty put down invites hostility.
@redredred

No one argued the need for a put down. I'm arguing the need to teach men to accept rejection peacefully whether or not their wittle feewings are hurt in the process.

Were you able to keep up this time?😏
redredred · M
And I tried to educate you that a polite refusal might work better than a put down. We’re you paying attention?@Pikachu
@redredred

lol so no, you didn't keep up.
Try again. Read slowly. Sound the words out if you have to👍
ElRengo · 70-79, M
A woman not interested in me is not making a "rejection".
She is the owner of her choices and preferences. And I respect this.

I can make some comments on both sides politness, but don´t seem it´s the main point of the post.
pdockal · 56-60, M
Seriously ?
It's more that men are bashed from every angle and have to be careful how we approach so we don't get into trouble
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Pikachu

You only wish men like me hit on you
You can only tell me when I'm wrong if I'm wrong regardless if your a Karen or not

I never tried to insult you
I never called you names
Just shows how immature you are

Last i checked i can comment on anything that's posted so deal with it
@pdockal

Belligerently refusing to accept rejection....thanks for making my point, you plodding animal🤣🤣🤣
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Pikachu

Are you trying to say your rejecting me ?
Id have to hit on you before that would ever happen
Just keep trying to insult me which shows your ignorance and immaturity and lack of education
People who have nothing productive to add usually stoop to attempting to insult
Doomflower · 36-40, M
When someone rejects me I turn into a spirit being and disappear. Idk how anyone has the balls to flip out.
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JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
I think you should treat everyone politely (provided they are being polite to you).
@JimboSaturn

Sure.
And we're all taught to be polite but that doesn't mean a man is owed a polite rejection in order for him not to react aggressively.
We're already teaching women to be polite. Let's start teaching men to accept rejection peacefully.
Klingwood · 61-69, M
Why is that to hard to teach a woman? You can't be nice ? But yet women want to be noticed and and have a dreamboat ask her Out bit don't dare the wrong guy approach her.lol you make me laugh.bt the way I see both sides take it badly.so no it wouldn't hurt to be. Ice about how we reject others.
@Klingwood

Politeness is taught to everyone from a young age. Only women have to worry about being polite in a romantic approach in order to avoid violence.
Klingwood · 61-69, M
@Pikachu well don't know where your from but I've never seen violence because a woman turned a man down ,get up tight sure be a bit pissed off sure but that's it
@Klingwood

Then you haven't talked to any women about this issue. Try it out. Let me know what you hear.
exexec · 61-69, C
I had not thought of that, but it is exactly what my wife did in college when she dated others. She told them up front that she was committed to me and was dating them for fun. When she was ready to dump them, she had already laid the groundwork. "It's not you, but I told you I love Gary." It worked, and all of her exes remained as her friends.
NinaTina · 26-30, F
Yes and look out when shes on her... Period.
@NinaTina

Period make woman crazy lelelelel
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@tenente

I don't think it's a new thing. Men have always acted violent and entitled towards a woman's body.
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