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anythingoes477 · 31-35, M
@kodiac What's funny is Biden did sell off ALL of the stuff that was supposed to build the wall and you all know that..... but somehow you all missed the fact that trump backcharged taxpayers a billion dollars for using the same stuff that was gone because Biden sold it.... to supposedly finish building his wall....... somehow with no materials....... and then he charged taxpayers almost a billion bucks because he said he finished building it. Problem is.... where he said he finished it.... there is no wall. So now no wall..... and no money. Gosh i wonder where that billion dollars went???.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I love the sentiment of this post and agree with it.

I would define socialism is the collective ownership of the economy bully workers, not bosses. It's a theory of power as well as a theory of government.
kodiac · 26-30, M
Socialism works great untill they run out of other people's money to give to everyone else
anythingoes477 · 31-35, M
@MasterLee Let me guess Cranston told you Waters is still voting and you told him Walz is who has raised our national debt and stollen over $4 billion from us...... and pocketed over a $100 billion to finish the wall..........that don't exist.....and all the rest. ;-) The only knowledge the cult has is the lies and conspiracy theories you trade back and forth. ;-) ;-)
kodiac · 26-30, M
@LamontCranston Yup can't spell but calls me uneducated.
kodiac · 26-30, M
@anythingoes477 Funny you bring up the wall Biden/ obama sold the materials for the wall for pennies on the dollar ,hunter biden made millions by selling his fathers signature to the higest bidder. But then again I'm uneducated so what do i know?
It sounds like socialism- as imagined by dreamy utopians and promulgated by would-be tyrants like Mamdami.
Ontheroad · M
They both do and don't and they don't because they are self-centered and care about themselves over any and everything else.

Also, because those in power fear losing their jobs.

Socialism is a political and economic theory advocating collective ownership of the means of production and equitable distribution of wealth to promote social and economic equality.

Core Principles:

Collective Ownership: Socialism emphasizes that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or controlled collectively, whether by the state, communities, cooperatives, or workers themselves, rather than by private individuals


Wealth Redistribution: Socialists advocate for reducing economic inequality through mechanisms such as progressive taxation, social welfare programs, or universal basic services, ensuring that resources benefit all members of society

Social Welfare and Labor Rights: Socialism prioritizes access to essential services like healthcare, education, housing, and childcare, alongside fair labor practices, including safe working conditions, fair wages, and job security

Democracy and Participation: While some socialist systems centralize planning, the theory often supports citizen participation in decision-making processes, reflecting the collective interest


International Cooperation: Socialism encourages peaceful collaboration among nations and opposes exploitative competition, emphasizing global solidarity.

Bottom line is that socialism can be what is best for all, but it is called communism by those who want only what is best for them.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Ontheroad Working out grand in cubar, eh
Ontheroad · M
@sunsporter1649 thanks for proving what I said.
Rabbit420 · 70-79, M
The biggest disadvantage these days is that all these people are making claims about Socialism without even knowing what it really is. They used to teach a subject called CIVICS back when I was in school which taught you about government and it's different forms. These days people are just "parroting" the lies, myths and propaganda that they've been fed by all the anti socialist groups. These days most people don't even know the 3 branches of government and what the duties of those branches are!!!!
@Rabbit420 I wish we would have had that when I went to school. I've seen it mentioned in old movies. All information is unavailable in school and any lack of acceptance of the majority viewpoint is punished.
AthrillatheHunt · 56-60, M
Can you blame us ? Half our politicians can’t explain what a woman is . Seems like a way more basic concept than socialism.
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AthrillatheHunt · 56-60, M
@Roundandroundwego only a matter of time before self deletion is like rec weed where any adult can do it
Because for 70 years people in the west were brain washed for the cold war.

It is why so many think healthcare is communist, Gorby was a capitalist, Boris Yeltsin was a Slavic Abe Lincoln, yet Vladimir Putin runs the CCCP .

Western education is a joke.
It’s the thin velvet glove covering the iron fist of communism
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Surely you jest.
Munumbis · 46-50, M
@DLight Bullshit he's telling you the truth.
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@GerOttman Without government, there are no meaningful property rights in the first place. You pay taxes and agree to be a halfway decent person in order to be able to create wealth and enjoy it in peace.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
No they don't. They are brainwashed and ignorant.
Convivial · 26-30, F
From an external point of view I think many Americans conflate socialism and communism... And the government, media and church certainly cruelled any chance of a rational debate during the 50d and 60s...
@Nimbus yes, most immigrants were rabidly pro capitalism. They escaped socialism on purpose.
anythingoes477 · 31-35, M
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anythingoes477 · 31-35, M
@GerOttman Socialism never had "free" attached to it. It public use of income tax money that we all contribute too. Floridians never pay taxes to clean snow off their roads... but people in Minnesota gets benefit from those tax dollars Someone 20 wont draw SS or Medicare for 45 more years but their tax dollars make sure you can get both. It all averages out.
anythingoes477 · 31-35, M
@GerOttman What do you pay for new roads out of your pocket? Did you pay to dig the wells, lay the water lines and maintain your water system? What little you pay in taxes that goes to every thing u take for granted is the same as "free" It takes $20k plus to dig a well..... and maybe u pay $50 every month for a water bill. You're not being fleeced. You are way far into me... me... me... and not thinking. At ur age you are collecting Social Security $$$$ every month that 20 years are paying into SS to keep u fed.... and well.....and they can't benefit from for 45 more years. It all averages out.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@anythingoes477 I pay tax on every gallon of gas that goes to road maintenance. I've paid into the SSN ponzi scheme for well over 40 years, I better get some of it back..

What "little I pay in taxes..."?? Did you jusy say that out loud? Holy sh1t...
Gibbon · 70-79, M
You just cut your approaches legs off. It is not the government responsibility to provide health care.
Everything you laid is government control of the masses. Yes that is indeed socialism and if you believe that's a good thing you need your head examined
@Gibbon Well, actually, affordable health care IS the government's responsibility (among other things of course). Would you rather have a health system that is profit-driven, like in the US? I know I wouldn't.
Munumbis · 46-50, M
The governments job is to keep order and provide defense. Not wipe your butt for you.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 31-35, M
because nobody is equipped to actually get the desired result. Get your fingers out of the pie control freak

 
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