independentone · M
I don't know why any air traffic controller or member of the military would show up to work and not be paid.
I have always refused to serve on jury duty, because I refuse to work without being paid for it.
I have always refused to serve on jury duty, because I refuse to work without being paid for it.
View 12 more replies »
swirlie · 31-35
@DogMan
Your father didn't have any choice in the matter but to take orders, whether he wanted to take orders or not. Taking orders therefore, was not your father's choice as you've otherwise eluded to.
The reason your father was assigned to the front lines in Italy was because he was drafted into WWII, which means your father was not a willing volunteer who was willing to serve his country. That means your father did not show up at the Recruitment office on his own and volunteer his service to serve his country. The US government had to force his hand by drafting him, which means forcing him to show up and be ready to take orders.
Your father was drafted into the Infantry as were 61% of all US Servicemen during WWII, which means 61% of the US soldiers in the US military did not volunteer to serve their country, which actually means they were forced against their will to serve their country which is what "draft" means.
The other reason your father was assigned to the front lines as an Infantryman was again because he was drafted, which means draftees did not have a choice of assignment for more elite military postings, unlike 'volunteers who voluntarily Enlisted' who got to choose which branch of the US military they would serve in, such as the Air Force for example.
I should also point out that during WWII, the Air Force was not comprised of draftees to fly airplanes! The Air Force was comprised of voluntary Enlistees who wanted to be there, unlike draftees who didn't give a shitte and were forced against their will to be there, which is why all draftees ended up in the Infantry Division and usually as front line soldiers. There were many Enlisted Infantrymen who ended up on the front line as well, but draftees didn't have a choice in the matter of where they ended up.
So when you say shitte like "A Marine that could not take orders? So not a real Marine?", keep in mind that your own father was not a real soldier either when you stoop to those terms, because your father was drafted and not a voluntary Enlistee and don't you ever forget that.
Your father didn't have any choice in the matter but to take orders, whether he wanted to take orders or not. Taking orders therefore, was not your father's choice as you've otherwise eluded to.
The reason your father was assigned to the front lines in Italy was because he was drafted into WWII, which means your father was not a willing volunteer who was willing to serve his country. That means your father did not show up at the Recruitment office on his own and volunteer his service to serve his country. The US government had to force his hand by drafting him, which means forcing him to show up and be ready to take orders.
Your father was drafted into the Infantry as were 61% of all US Servicemen during WWII, which means 61% of the US soldiers in the US military did not volunteer to serve their country, which actually means they were forced against their will to serve their country which is what "draft" means.
The other reason your father was assigned to the front lines as an Infantryman was again because he was drafted, which means draftees did not have a choice of assignment for more elite military postings, unlike 'volunteers who voluntarily Enlisted' who got to choose which branch of the US military they would serve in, such as the Air Force for example.
I should also point out that during WWII, the Air Force was not comprised of draftees to fly airplanes! The Air Force was comprised of voluntary Enlistees who wanted to be there, unlike draftees who didn't give a shitte and were forced against their will to be there, which is why all draftees ended up in the Infantry Division and usually as front line soldiers. There were many Enlisted Infantrymen who ended up on the front line as well, but draftees didn't have a choice in the matter of where they ended up.
So when you say shitte like "A Marine that could not take orders? So not a real Marine?", keep in mind that your own father was not a real soldier either when you stoop to those terms, because your father was drafted and not a voluntary Enlistee and don't you ever forget that.
independentone · M
@swirlie You are correct about most of it, but there was no Air Force in the beginning of WWII it was called the Army Air Corps -
swirlie · 31-35
@independentone
Do you think my post was all about semantics?
Do you think my post was all about semantics?
carpediem · 61-69, M
But if we fund healthcare for illegals everything will be fine? Hard pass. I'm ok waiting this one out.
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
Jenny1234 · 56-60, F
Hope it’s over before November. Don’t want any delays with my flight in and out of Houston
independentone · M
@Jenny1234 Why would you ever want to go to anyplace in Texas?
Jenny1234 · 56-60, F
@independentone I’m flying into Houston to get a flight to Mexico. It’s a lot cheaper than flying from Toronto to Mexico.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
I got my pension. But the post office is self funding.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
Does that mean i can hold off paying my taxes?
independentone · M
@MarineBob You live in a state that takes more federal money than you pay in, so no, until you people can become productive, you need to pay
FoxyQueen · 51-55, F
Get what you can while you can before we all start to live Le Miserables
AnnaWasHere · 22-25, FNew
Unemployment was already up under Trump. Now it's worse.
DogMan · 61-69, M
So Government employees get even more paid vacation. You can bet they will go on vacation again as
soon as they get their back pay.
soon as they get their back pay.
TexChik · F
Yep Democrats would rather extort money for illegal alien healthcare and tranny sex change surgery rather than take care of Americans. In other words the libs are out of money to run their clandestine shadow government, and the illegals and trannies would never see a dime . Funny thing is congress still gets paid during a shutdown. Trump will use this as an opportunity to permanently reduce the number of lib bureaucrats in the federal government
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
TexChik · F
@cherokeepatti like they need to prove how miserable they are
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Hope trump fires more non essential government employees
JSul3 · 70-79
Will ICE continue to work without being paid?
BrandNewMan · M
Lol .. Jeffries and Schumer shut down the govt to try and force spending tax dollars on illegals, the trans agenda and NPR despite the realities of the outcome of the election.
You don't like it .. take it up w those dweebs.
You don't like it .. take it up w those dweebs.
BrandNewMan · M
@Pretzel True the checks will be paid but some services under the soc sec admin could be impacted
Pretzel · 70-79, M
@BrandNewMan I suspect the people that answer the phones are home today
and determinations are on hold
essential services like cops and military go on
and I suspect the people that feed the prez are still on the job
and determinations are on hold
essential services like cops and military go on
and I suspect the people that feed the prez are still on the job
BrandNewMan · M
@Pretzel All for the left to score "political points" with the 30% of America that supports them right now for opposing Trump and attempting to waste ever more of our tax money.
Kinda f-d up, isn't it?
Kinda f-d up, isn't it?
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
Don't worry, Israel will still get the weapons you sent, each day!
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Pretzel the population as a country acted. Americans. We all armed Israel every day and continue to drive Palestine to the end. Genocide. Together.
Pretzel · 70-79, M
@Roundandroundwego in your mind, yes
you can have the last word then let's go on ignoring one another.
life is too short
you can have the last word then let's go on ignoring one another.
life is too short
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Pretzel democracy is functioning in Israel, too. They're also genocidal. But blaming the government means the population is guilty, in such democratic countries.
I'll get the last word, then, since you despised me openly and ended your input -Americans don't need a third party and neither do Israelis. They're getting their way. Democracy in action! And they seem to hate everyone who questions the results.
I'll get the last word, then, since you despised me openly and ended your input -Americans don't need a third party and neither do Israelis. They're getting their way. Democracy in action! And they seem to hate everyone who questions the results.
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
HoeBag · 46-50, F
@Roundandroundwego Well I am not sure I understand what you are saying, but here is the thing -
There is nothing I can personally do to prevent the GOVT from shutting down.
What am I suppose to do? Call Trump and beg him to keep it open?
There is nothing I can personally do to prevent the GOVT from shutting down.
What am I suppose to do? Call Trump and beg him to keep it open?
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@HoeBag only political movements that replace the two parties can do that! So, weakly and without a word Americans definitely deserve full credit for the genocide! They didn't care much but got that job done.
HoeBag · 46-50, F
@Roundandroundwego Yes it is sad, but what in the HAIL does that have to do with a goverment melt down? I mean shut down?
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
22Michelle · 70-79, T
@Pretzel No, you have one of the worst politicals systems you can vastly overpay for.
tenente · 36-40, M
AND THEY'RE OFF...

