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Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
Career limiting move on the part of thse security people. Good luck getting hired anywhere.
JSul3 · 70-79
@Tastyfrzz The Trump Police State will hire them.

Was not tackled. Resisted law enforcement doing their duty, senators are not exempt from the consequences of their actions. Looked on video more like he did it intentionally, presumably to use it as he did almost immediately for political gain by lying about how he was treated. The video shows they were handling him as carefully as possible given his level of resistance. He's a senior senator .. he knows secret service security protocols. He got what he deseved.

Don't believe me he wasn't tackled? Challenge him to stand there and let me tackle his @$$. You can even film it .. that way all can see what that would actually f'ing look like.
@BrandNewMan so you're saying apprehending a senator for simply asking questions is alright if little violence is used?
@NerdyPotato Quit lying. He was not just standing there asking a question at an appropriate point in Noem's speech.

He was barging toward the stage, yelling out and yelling over her. When confronted he did not calm down, he tried to push past security to continue toward the stage. Repeatedly. He continued once removed to the hallway. As a result, he was appropriately cuffed to restrain him.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-alex-padilla-forcibly-removed-dhs-sec-kristi-noems-press-conferenc-rcna212688

He got the response he apparently intended to provoke.
GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F
@BrandNewMan

Let's try this. Just post the actual video, see what happened, and cut out all the passionate bullshit -

[media=https://youtu.be/BNjBbTr9bCw]

From what I can see, he wasn't "tackled", and he wasn't "barging toward the stage yelling" either.

Do I think it's okay ? No I don't.
Pfuzylogic · M
I personally don’t like how Noem handled that press conference and it was totally under her control on how the Senator from the state she was at was mistreated/ She had just slammed the Mayor and Governor of California and made inappropriate comments on them. I heard she was sent to a hospital a few days later and even though I don’t believe in Karma thought, “this doesn’t surprise me.”
TexChik · F
Is it ever possible for you liberals to provide a complete and factual account of an incident?

1. He did not wear his Senate security pin, which would have signaled to security who he was.
2. He did not identify himself until after menacingly lunging towards the DHS secretary during a news conference, talking gibberish.
3. He resisted federal officers until several subdued him to place him in handcuffs.
4. This was a publicity stunt that the Senator and the libs planned, because a presser was waiting for him downstairs after he was
released and thrown out of the building. Libs in Washington were also ready to start in with their propaganda.
5. The DHS secretary would have happily taken a meeting with the corrupt Senator, but then that would not have gotten him any
publicity.
6. He cried on the Senate floor about his ordeal for the cameras, forgetting, I guess, there was footage of his stunt available.
Confined · 56-60, M
He was there to be disruptive. He rushed the stage. So YES he should be arrested.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Wasn't necessary.

Just the fact that they waited until after he was removed from the room to tackle him, shows it wasn't necessary.

This is a police abuse case simply because it was done afterwards.

Has nothing to do with his position really. They just didn't want to make a scene over it. It just happens that it was recorded.

This is why they don't want recordings of such situations.

If this not prosecuted this administration will have the right to confiscate such recordings.
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GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
Depends if he is being disruptive, which he was
@GuidanceCounselor What law, specifically, says that "being disruptive" is an arrestable offence? And, under the auspices of this alleged law, who gets to define "being disruptive"??

Or did you think this guy's word was law???
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
If you showed up to a closed meeting you weren't invited to, bypassed security/ignored protocols, menacingly charged/lunged toward the secretary of DHS, etc.

what do you think would happen to you?

who you are/claim to be is irrelevant, "no one is above the law", remember?
JSul3 · 70-79
@wildbill83 LOL!
Are you serious?
Do you think you could enter that building without being asked for ID?

Padilla was escorted INTO the room by FBI and Secret Service.
They knew who he was.
G.I. Noem should know who he is, but since she has no idea what habeas corpus is, perhaps she doesn't.

Padilla didn't charge the podium.
Watch the entire 35+ minute video from Fox 5 News in DC.
Not if asking a question is all they did, no. That would be considered assault if that's all they did.
@LordShadowfire Verbal identification means absolutely nothing in the world of security... as there are so many liers.

Needed that badge that is in question, and once a certain line is crossed, even the badge won't do you any good, as protocols usually would say, once you have had to get physical, then neutralize the by detaining the and let others later figure it out.

Again, if smarter heads are at play, they can audible out for the protocols into something smarter, but either they didn't feel like they didn't have that authority, or they didn't have that smarter mind set available.

But simply put, not having that badge and then ticking off one of the security officers is enough to do this. Again, wish smarter heads would of come into play.
JSul3 · 70-79
@sstronaut Padilla was escorted INTO the room by FBI and Secret Service.

They knew who he was.
His polo shirt had the US Senator logo on it....and again, he was escorted INTO the room. They knew who he was.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@JSul3 And let's not forget he was also escorted out of the room, and while he was being fully cooperative, he was tackled and handcuffed anyway.
Mcmarie90 · 31-35, F
Is it ok to ask misleading questions that leave out key facts about the context of situations? Or is this just a "hypothetical" situation?
How about this, is it ok for the FBI to handcuff Trump for asking a question?
Mcmarie90 · 31-35, F
@LordShadowfire why don't you look at who was in the PRESS briefing before jumping to conclusions? I'm not even disagreeing with you about him in cuffs, but there are so many details missing and everyone (both sides) loves to jump to conclusions based on small out of context sound or video bites.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Mcmarie90 I shared the entire video from the single most unbiased news source in the US. Don't assume I don't want to know. If there is more context, I am interested.
JSul3 · 70-79
@Mcmarie90 The FBI and Secret Service escorted him into the room.
He did not break in or barge in.
NEVER!!

Freedom of speech is our most sacred right!!
YMITheWayIM · 46-50, M
@YMITheWayIM they might be a little biased in this question...
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
He should have identified himself from the start, and acted like a courteous human being!
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@fanuc2013 He was wearing a polo shirt that identified him as a US senator. He verbally identified himself as a US senator. It did him no good. They still escorted him out of the room, and then, while he was already being fully cooperative, they tackled him and handcuffed him. But you people love to ignore those facts.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@fanuc2013 Did you watch the video? He clearly identifies himself. Furthermore, he went through the security process and security was the ones who escorted him in.
@SatanBurger Ironically the same people who tackled him when he dared ask the ICE princess a question.
id have given him a few whacks with the billy club for good measure
JSul3 · 70-79
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout So you support the Trump Police State.
Good to know.
WowwGirl · 36-40, F
That was nothing. Man up...💐
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
I love it that the only people who aren't saying hell no to this are finding ways to rationalize and justify, because if they were to acknowledge that this is exactly what happened, they would not be able to defend it.
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SkeetSkeet · 100+, F
In North Korea
Only if the senator is a Democrat.
No. That should be obvious but unfortunately in Trumpistan it is not.
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MethDozer · M
If they pull a gun or knife on the floor, sure otherwise, no.

 
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