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The Crisis at the US Borders - Compromise in sight but probably will be rejected

The Republican party seems not to want to fix the problem they identified! When does a 'victory' in politics get celebrated? Is getting Trump re-elected more important than solving your country's problems one at a time?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/in-biden-s-pledge-to-shut-down-border-a-stunning-political-shift/ar-BB1hrGcG?ocid=nl_article_link
Heartlander · 80-89, M
Democrat solutions have mostly been to turn illegals into legal immigrants or remove obstacles that slow illegal immigrants down.

7 million illegal immigrants equals about 7 seats in the House of Representatives and 7 members of the electoral college. Democrats fight tooth and nail to keep questions about citizenship OFF US Census forms. The distribution of illegals impact congressional districts and sanctuary jurisdictions are like magnets pulling illegals to Democrat controlled jurisdictions. It's all about politics.
Livingwell · 61-69, M
@Heartlander I somewhat agree with your point. Being an engineer, I have seen this. AI is a big threat to programmers. In farming, automation is slow to come because of the high costs of equipment. Farmers can't afford it. So they use migrant labor. I live in a small rural farming area. People buy used and fix everything because competition with large corporate farms is fierce. Locals also support them by buying local farming products. And being a rural area, change is slow. But that means the people are friendly and help one another.
JollyRoger · 70-79, M
@Heartlander Maybe! But they seem to prefer the "Land of the Free" rather than the "Land of Ice and Snow"
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Jill1990 · 31-35, F
Politics here is ONLY about getting re-elected or getting a party member re-elected. Look at our drug prices - highest in the world. Then look at how much drug companies give to politicians. We’re a joke and it makes me so mad.
@Jimmy2016 Yes, but one consultant's fees were not spread over a few patients.

The crux is

[quote]Drug company's have to charge enormous prices for their drugs to keep the stock holders happy![/quote]
Jill1990 · 31-35, F
@SomeMichGuy and they are immune to any regulation because they own the politicians. Thats my problem.
Jill1990 · 31-35, F
@Jimmy2016 part of that huge cost is going right in the politicians pocket to make sure no regulations are passed to regulate drug prices. Enough about that.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
The problem was fixed until biden recinded Trumps executive orders.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Livingwell " it was NEVER 1.82 a gallon." I wonder who said that....
JollyRoger · 70-79, M
@Patriot96 How did Trump fix the problem with his executive order (just asking)?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JollyRoger You're kidding, right?
Carla · 61-69, F
Getting trump reelected is paramount to the maga cult.
Their preference is for the economy to tank, the market to crash, a hundred million immigrants gain access from the south and 30% of people under 60 should succumb to fentyal poisoning.
That will set the stage for trump to do his maga thing. Or so he would lead the cult to believe...
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@JollyRoger I watched from a distance as he took his centrepiece universal health cover from office to office to get support and had to trade pieces of it away to every senator and congressman with a 'special interest" in healh care and insurance until it was the frankestein is became. But he got it there, with the hope it could be improved on later. And his innovative campaign funding made him the first nominee in a long time to buck the big donor power broker system. A trick he taught Trump. who is destroying the Republicans with it. Kudos to the man. He was a better President than America deserved..😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Carla Desperation makes people so strange things. In the case of America you have the religious heritage not found in many Western Developed nations, plus the disallusioned Vietman generation and the sense of entitlement that filteres through to the people from Americas world leadership. I know there is more besides. But it all makes a rich soup of personality that makes Americans the sometimes brilliant, sometimes thicker than two short planks people they are. If I had to pick a worst flaw (and I realise we all have flaws) it would be that so many Americans "know" by faith, rather than search for meaning by learning. The constant search for knowledge is where progress lies..😷
JollyRoger · 70-79, M
@whowasthatmaskedman You are a perceptive person!! I was a policeman in my career. Watching good people blindly follow others into destruction tightens my throat. It's 'always too late' when they see the reality of it.
Northwest · M
@Livingwell [quote]
I somewhat agree with your point. Being an engineer, I have seen this. AI is a big threat to programmers. In farming, automation is slow to come because of the high costs of equipment. Farmers can't afford it. So they use migrant labor. I live in a small rural farming area. People buy used and fix everything because competition with large corporate farms is fierce. Locals also support them by buying local farming products. And being a rural area, change is slow. But that means the people are friendly and help one another.[/quote]

I could not respond directly to your comment, because the guy who started the branch blocks me, probably a MAGA. They all block me.

AI is not a threat to programmers. AI cannot program, it relies on large scale models, to suggest ways to solve a problems, but you need to be a programmer to understand it, or modify it.

It does make my life easier though. When I'm writing code, I use it much like you use a word processor today: As you type,, it suggests fixes to typos, and may finish a sentence you started.

I do, however, have an opinion about automation and farming. The latter is now big business, and automation is not new. It's been around for decades, and AI in farming, started at least a couple of decades before the most recent ChatGPT hoopla.

I have interest in this space as a technologist, and the stuff is pretty amazing. This is why farming is now, mostly a corporate thing.

Large Scale weather models, aided by small devices (IoT), distributed throughout the farm, will direct watering equipment, to water only the northeast portion of the field, because this is the part that did not get as much rain.

It also tells the farmers when to "harvest" and how, based on the weather model, using a "micro" prediction system, instead of listening to Channel 4 news.

Planting, harvesting, etc. is all automated, and far more advanced than any other AI application today.

The small farmers, however are not going to disappear. And my programming skills are not going to disappear. We go through this every few years.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Why on earth would the Republicans want to solve a visible, emotionally changed problem in an election year when hardly a single talking point issue is working for them?? The only other point they have other than Joe Bidens age is ""Brown people bad.. Taking our jobs." God forbid they should have to look at the Republican positives..😷
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@whowasthatmaskedman 8 U.S. Code Chapter 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY
Neither party is really responsible to the voters or even to humanity.
It's as if hatred is above international law and human rights because nationalism is so irresistible to killers with big weapons.
JollyRoger · 70-79, M
@Roundandroundwego I like your name - it suits your outlook!
@JollyRoger it's not about my outlook, but Mother Hubbard got severe bullying. So did my other names. Around we come again.
pdockal · 56-60, M
Did you read the entire bill and understand how confusing it is ... it doesn't close the boarder .... it puts into place triggers that may or may not allow people to still enter without papers
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@pdockal relies on fjb to determine numbers allowed in
JollyRoger · 70-79, M
@pdockal Yes.... Would you like to fly to Mexico City and then try to drive back to the USA and find that the border is closed to everyone?
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[quote]When does a 'victory' in politics get celebrated? Is getting Trump re-elected more important than solving your country's problems one at a time?[/quote]

Of course that's part of it, but it's also that Republicans like illegal immigration. It means cheap labor for them and their donors.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@BohemianBoo NANCU PELOSI WINERY: A UNIQUE WINERY OWNED BY SPEAKER PELOSI
@sunsporter1649 Random AF, but ok.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
No compromise, close down the borders. Restrict all immigration
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@Patriot96 maybe they should have said that hundreds of years ago!
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@Handfull1 works for me, except there were no borders back then
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@Patriot96 just not on paper!
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
8 U.S. Code Chapter 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY
Apparently, yes.

 
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