Roundandroundwego · 61-69
Nobody is. Contradictory ethical precepts mean you lied.
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Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@1930sfan not you, anyone. If you're progressive, you're not a Republican. They're two opposing ideas.
1930sfan · 26-30, M
@RoundandroundwegoAbraham Lincoln help freed the slaves and Teddy Roosevelt push for more Healthcare
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@1930sfan and bipartisanly there's no coherent politics and we're going to kill the planet thusly.
Ken4family · 18-21, M
The 5 founding principles of the Republican Party:
1. Constitutional governance
2. States Rights
3. Small government, individual rights with government out if your life
4. Non intervention foreign policy
5. Fiscal conservatism
I'm on board for all of that.
1. Constitutional governance
2. States Rights
3. Small government, individual rights with government out if your life
4. Non intervention foreign policy
5. Fiscal conservatism
I'm on board for all of that.
BiasForAction · M
@Ken4family did you even read what I wrote about tariffs (vs protectionist tariffs) and Whigs (Clays American system embraced protectionist tariffs) and republicans (pro-protectionist tariffs for decades, adopting parts of the Whig platform ) and Lincoln (who proudly described himself as a Henry Clay Whig)? I’m guessing not. My point is that republicans change their beliefs like the dem party. There are no core beliefs, just a desire for power and a need to maintain two party control of elections. Prove me wrong
Ken4family · 18-21, M
@BiasForAction again, thank you for admitting you were wrong.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Ken4family
Try this, instead.
Republican Party Platform of 1856
June 18, 1856
This Convention of Delegates, assembled in pursuance of a call addressed to the people of the United States, without regard to past political differences or divisions, who are opposed to the repeal of the Missouri Compromise; to the policy of the present Administration; to the extension of Slavery into Free Territory; in favor of the admission of Kansas as a Free State; of restoring the action of the Federal Government to the principles of Washington and Jefferson; and for the purpose of presenting candidates for the offices of President and Vice-President, do resolve as follows:
Resolved: That the maintenance of the principles promulgated in the Declaration of Independence, and embodied in the Federal Constitution are essential to the preservation of our Republican institutions, and that the Federal Constitution, the rights of the States, and the union of the States, must and shall be preserved.
Resolved: That, with our Republican fathers, we hold it to be a self-evident truth, that all men are endowed with the inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and that the primary object and ulterior design of our Federal Government were to secure these rights to all persons under its exclusive jurisdiction; that, as our Republican fathers, when they had abolished Slavery in all our National Territory, ordained that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, it becomes our duty to maintain this provision of the Constitution against all attempts to violate it for the purpose of establishing Slavery in the Territories of the United States by positive legislation, prohibiting its existence or extension therein. That we deny the authority of Congress, of a Territorial Legislation, of any individual, or association of individuals, to give legal existence to Slavery in any Territory of the United States, while the present Constitution shall be maintained.
Resolved: That the Constitution confers upon Congress sovereign powers over the Territories of the United States for their government; and that in the exercise of this power, it is both the right and the imperative duty of Congress to prohibit in the Territories those twin relics of barbarism--Polygamy, and Slavery.
Resolved: That while the Constitution of the United States was ordained and established by the people, in order to "form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty," and contain ample provision for the protection of the life, liberty, and property of every citizen, the dearest Constitutional rights of the people of Kansas have been fraudulently and violently taken from them.
Their Territory has been invaded by an armed force;
Spurious and pretended legislative, judicial, and executive officers have been set over them, by whose usurped authority, sustained by the military power of the government, tyrannical and unconstitutional laws have been enacted and enforced;
The right of the people to keep and bear arms has been infringed.
Test oaths of an extraordinary and entangling nature have been imposed as a condition of exercising the right of suffrage and holding office.
The right of an accused person to a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury has been denied;
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, has been violated;
They have been deprived of life, liberty, and property without due process of law;
That the freedom of speech and of the press has been abridged;
The right to choose their representatives has been made of no effect;
Murders, robberies, and arsons have been instigated and encouraged, and the offenders have been allowed to go unpunished;
That all these things have been done with the knowledge, sanction, and procurement of the present National Administration; and that for this high crime against the Constitution, the Union, and humanity, we arraign that Administration, the President, his advisers, agents, supporters, apologists, and accessories, either before or after the fact, before the country and before the world; and that it is our fixed purpose to bring the actual perpetrators of these atrocious outrages and their accomplices to a sure and condign punishment thereafter.
Resolved, That Kansas should be immediately admitted as a state of this Union, with her present Free Constitution, as at once the most effectual way of securing to her citizens the enjoyment of the rights and privileges to which they are entitled, and of ending the civil strife now raging in her territory.
Resolved, That the highwayman's plea, that "might makes right," embodied in the Ostend Circular, was in every respect unworthy of American diplomacy, and would bring shame and dishonor upon any Government or people that gave it their sanction.
Resolved, That a railroad to the Pacific Ocean by the most central and practicable route is imperatively demanded by the interests of the whole country, and that the Federal Government ought to render immediate and efficient aid in its construction, and as an auxiliary thereto, to the immediate construction of an emigrant road on the line of the railroad.
Resolved, That appropriations by Congress for the improvement of rivers and harbors, of a national character, required for the accommodation and security of our existing commerce, are authorized by the Constitution, and justified by the obligation of the Government to protect the lives and property of its citizens.
Resolved, That we invite the affiliation and cooperation of the men of all parties, however differing from us in other respects, in support of the principles herein declared; and believing that the spirit of our institutions as well as the Constitution of our country, guarantees liberty of conscience and equality of rights among citizens, we oppose all legislation impairing their security.
APP Note: The Official Proceedings of the 1856 Republican National Convention indicates that the platform was announced and read on the second day of the convention (June 18, 1856).
Republican Party Platforms, Republican Party Platform of 1856 Online by Gerhard Peters and John T. Woolley, The American Presidency Project https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/node/273293
The 5 founding principles of the Republican Party:
Try this, instead.
Republican Party Platform of 1856
June 18, 1856
This Convention of Delegates, assembled in pursuance of a call addressed to the people of the United States, without regard to past political differences or divisions, who are opposed to the repeal of the Missouri Compromise; to the policy of the present Administration; to the extension of Slavery into Free Territory; in favor of the admission of Kansas as a Free State; of restoring the action of the Federal Government to the principles of Washington and Jefferson; and for the purpose of presenting candidates for the offices of President and Vice-President, do resolve as follows:
Resolved: That the maintenance of the principles promulgated in the Declaration of Independence, and embodied in the Federal Constitution are essential to the preservation of our Republican institutions, and that the Federal Constitution, the rights of the States, and the union of the States, must and shall be preserved.
Resolved: That, with our Republican fathers, we hold it to be a self-evident truth, that all men are endowed with the inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and that the primary object and ulterior design of our Federal Government were to secure these rights to all persons under its exclusive jurisdiction; that, as our Republican fathers, when they had abolished Slavery in all our National Territory, ordained that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, it becomes our duty to maintain this provision of the Constitution against all attempts to violate it for the purpose of establishing Slavery in the Territories of the United States by positive legislation, prohibiting its existence or extension therein. That we deny the authority of Congress, of a Territorial Legislation, of any individual, or association of individuals, to give legal existence to Slavery in any Territory of the United States, while the present Constitution shall be maintained.
Resolved: That the Constitution confers upon Congress sovereign powers over the Territories of the United States for their government; and that in the exercise of this power, it is both the right and the imperative duty of Congress to prohibit in the Territories those twin relics of barbarism--Polygamy, and Slavery.
Resolved: That while the Constitution of the United States was ordained and established by the people, in order to "form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty," and contain ample provision for the protection of the life, liberty, and property of every citizen, the dearest Constitutional rights of the people of Kansas have been fraudulently and violently taken from them.
Their Territory has been invaded by an armed force;
Spurious and pretended legislative, judicial, and executive officers have been set over them, by whose usurped authority, sustained by the military power of the government, tyrannical and unconstitutional laws have been enacted and enforced;
The right of the people to keep and bear arms has been infringed.
Test oaths of an extraordinary and entangling nature have been imposed as a condition of exercising the right of suffrage and holding office.
The right of an accused person to a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury has been denied;
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, has been violated;
They have been deprived of life, liberty, and property without due process of law;
That the freedom of speech and of the press has been abridged;
The right to choose their representatives has been made of no effect;
Murders, robberies, and arsons have been instigated and encouraged, and the offenders have been allowed to go unpunished;
That all these things have been done with the knowledge, sanction, and procurement of the present National Administration; and that for this high crime against the Constitution, the Union, and humanity, we arraign that Administration, the President, his advisers, agents, supporters, apologists, and accessories, either before or after the fact, before the country and before the world; and that it is our fixed purpose to bring the actual perpetrators of these atrocious outrages and their accomplices to a sure and condign punishment thereafter.
Resolved, That Kansas should be immediately admitted as a state of this Union, with her present Free Constitution, as at once the most effectual way of securing to her citizens the enjoyment of the rights and privileges to which they are entitled, and of ending the civil strife now raging in her territory.
Resolved, That the highwayman's plea, that "might makes right," embodied in the Ostend Circular, was in every respect unworthy of American diplomacy, and would bring shame and dishonor upon any Government or people that gave it their sanction.
Resolved, That a railroad to the Pacific Ocean by the most central and practicable route is imperatively demanded by the interests of the whole country, and that the Federal Government ought to render immediate and efficient aid in its construction, and as an auxiliary thereto, to the immediate construction of an emigrant road on the line of the railroad.
Resolved, That appropriations by Congress for the improvement of rivers and harbors, of a national character, required for the accommodation and security of our existing commerce, are authorized by the Constitution, and justified by the obligation of the Government to protect the lives and property of its citizens.
Resolved, That we invite the affiliation and cooperation of the men of all parties, however differing from us in other respects, in support of the principles herein declared; and believing that the spirit of our institutions as well as the Constitution of our country, guarantees liberty of conscience and equality of rights among citizens, we oppose all legislation impairing their security.
APP Note: The Official Proceedings of the 1856 Republican National Convention indicates that the platform was announced and read on the second day of the convention (June 18, 1856).
Republican Party Platforms, Republican Party Platform of 1856 Online by Gerhard Peters and John T. Woolley, The American Presidency Project https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/node/273293
beckyromero · 36-40, F
What I mean by a progressive Republican—or, you could even call it a reform Republican—is someone modeled after figures like Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, or even FDR. Although FDR was a Democrat, he drew on many classical Republican principles.
FDR "a progressive Republican"? 🤣🤣🤣
This sums up what Republicans of the day back then thought of FDR.
AmericanAvenger · 56-60, M
Everything you referenced is from the past - most people in the world were not even alive when those politicians were in power. We are so far from most of those issues that it does even make sense - what intelligent person is still worried about who was on what side of slavery? We all need to get over it and deal with our reality as it stands today and will be tomorrow.
1930sfan · 26-30, M
@AmericanAvenger human trafficking is the modern slavery and is the new coalition
AmericanAvenger · 56-60, M
@1930sfan And the number of Americans that are concerned or impacted by it is probably negligible in comparison to those issues that matter the most to the most. With the Trump Administration's management of the border, it means even less now.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
An interesting idea.
The GOP is the only Republican party I am aware of anywhere that somehow started as a left wing party and ended up far right.
The GOP is the only Republican party I am aware of anywhere that somehow started as a left wing party and ended up far right.
BohoBabe · M
The modern Republican Party is nothing like the politics of those people. I know moderate Conservatives, but they despise the MAGA Republicans.
CedricH · 22-25, M
I‘m an avid supporter of a neoconservative & neoliberal Republican Party which would make me a Reagan-Bush (or McCain-Romney) Republican.
Ynotisay · M
There are no progressive Republicans. If you vote Republican you're voting against the Constitution. You're voting against stopping human trafficking and you're voting for the modern day version of slavery. You can try and deflect by going back 100 years but it means nothing in reality.
bijouxbroussard · F
@1930sfan MAGA has made all of that moot, and they want to rewrite the entire history of U.S. chattel slavery. The voters who are still progressive but not Democrats probably identify as independents now.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
I don't like labels or having to take an oath to a label. That's the issue the maga-nuts have right now.
Hmmm, more of a Ronald Regan, Bush, John McCain type....
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@VeronicaJane McCain was a disappointment
Lilnonames · F
i have progressive insurance
1930sfan · 26-30, M
@Lilnonames :) I get the joke its funny
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Aka rino?



















