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ICE can now be shot legally or not you tell me

Arizona AG Kris Mayes suggests residents could shoot unidentifiable masked ICE agents under state’s self-defense laws: It a ‘Recipe for disaster’
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Pretzel · 70-79, M
I'm no attorney - obviously

but it makes sense - wearing a "police" jacket is simply not identification.

I've seen them on video when asked to identify themself saying "don't worry about it"

So if a person is touched by someone not clearly identifying themself as law enforcement with a legitmate legal power to force you to the ground or handcuff you - well.....

You have the right to protect yourself.

In practice though - you shoot an agent - there's going to be half a dozen trigger happy people willing to bring you down.

I hope she mentioned that part too.
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@markinkansas [media=https://youtu.be/jZS70615ON0] she is lying
@markinkansas I cannot stand her.
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
This comes as little surprise and is entirely logical within the way of thinking that framed the legislation. It also seems to me to be in keeping with the cries of those supporting guns for everyone to keep the government under control.

I don't agree with the attitudes, but it is rational in a way.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
I'm hoping you're not blocked. @ElwoodBlues ElwoodBlues posted this slowed down version of the shooting...

Carefully watch the person, kneeling in gray, pulling out what might be that gun.

Warning: this is very likely to be sensitive.


I commented with a different perspective showing that camera...

[media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8WgIZvJK7s]
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Please don't. That's exactly the reaction Trump wants to provoke.
Pretzel · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl And then he'll involve the Insurrection Act and bring in the Armed Forces.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl Yes. It will be no comfort in 10 years time when your case has bounced back and forth up to the Supreme Court for your relatives to know that your death was illegal.
markinkansas · 61-69, M
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
Good!
It is intriguing that a legal argument allowing innocent people to fight back is seen as a "recipe for disaster."
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
The best way to lose the high ground is to sink to their level. Don't do it.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
The only thing stopping a bad ICE agent with a gun is a good citizen with a gun.

I'm sure the NRA agrees because it means more gun sales.

"F" the NRA.
markinkansas · 61-69, M
Black Panthers now join in .. and they carry guns.. [media=https://youtu.be/Fi36SG_NiU0]
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@bijouxbroussard no they did lots of good .. social rights for one.. Reagan was just president at that time.. it was for blacks not being hanged or dragged behind a truck till they fall apart.. ect[] and the truck dragging if can remember right it was in the 1990s so not that long ago
@markinkansas Two of the men who murdered James Byrd, Jr. were executed by lethal injection for that crime, possibly the first time the state imposed the death penalty on white men for the murder of a black person.

(That photo is unnecessary.😞)
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@bijouxbroussard sometimes a picture says a thousand words.. sorry bout that..
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Just try it and find out how quickly you become a "terrorist" and have an air strike called in on your home..😷
markinkansas · 61-69, M
[media=https://youtu.be/jSI_drjrAiI]
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swirlie · 31-35
Live by the sword, die by the sword. That's the American battlecry. Sorry America, but you can't have it both ways if the rules don't suit you!
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swirlie · 31-35
I think the USA needs a dam good Civil War just to clear the air on this stuff.
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@swirlie no i was thinking all republicans could make a new country and move south
swirlie · 31-35
@markinkansas
Haven't they already done that?
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@swirlie plenty where i live..

 
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