Is longetivity a solvable problem?
Elon Musk says that we are all pre-programmed to die as the body grows old and breaks down. If we change the program, he says, we will live longer. Musk thinks it is a solvable problem. What do you think?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sree251 Because paradise is not the same as heaven. Paradise is an ideal earth. The Garden of Eden was paradise. Heaven is a very very different concept. It doesn't involve human bodies
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955
So, Paradise is in this realm of reality: peace on earth, a perfect world without human conflict, free of want and pestilence.
Is this concept beyond human understanding?
Because paradise is not the same as heaven. Paradise is an ideal earth. The Garden of Eden was paradise.
So, Paradise is in this realm of reality: peace on earth, a perfect world without human conflict, free of want and pestilence.
Heaven is a very very different concept. It doesn't involve human bodies
Is this concept beyond human understanding?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sree251 One would think so. Jesus said that we shall be like the angels. Our biology and its urges will be gone.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
Those of us who have lived long enough have seen average life-expectancy significantly extended in our lifetimes, and probably can be a little longer. Just like genetically modified plants.
That doesn't mean the quality will be worth the extra years, or that immortality is obtainable. Even tortoises and redwoods eventually die.
As Yuval Noah Harari has posited, if all the billionaires in the world who waste their money chasing immortality spent that money on improving the quality of life on this planet, humanity would be far better served.
That doesn't mean the quality will be worth the extra years, or that immortality is obtainable. Even tortoises and redwoods eventually die.
As Yuval Noah Harari has posited, if all the billionaires in the world who waste their money chasing immortality spent that money on improving the quality of life on this planet, humanity would be far better served.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Elon has yet to perfect auto-driving despite hyping it. He cost the USA government money after saying he was going to save it $3 trillion. He drove Twitter into the ground. And, he turned Tesla from a respected company to a target for retribution because of his chain saw antics. He quitely abandoned the "hyperloop" that was going to revolutionize commuter travel. So far, Space X and Starlink are successes although will be tested by competition for the first time
Longevity might be a problem that can be solved, but not by Elon Musk. He enjoys thinking he's smarter than he really is. I bet he can't even identify a picture of a giraffe or remember a series of words like "person, woman, man, camera, TV." And I doubt he could survive on a piece of chicken, a piece of broccoli, a (small) tortilla, and one of something else no matter how much of a ketamine stupor he might be in at any given time.
Longevity might be a problem that can be solved, but not by Elon Musk. He enjoys thinking he's smarter than he really is. I bet he can't even identify a picture of a giraffe or remember a series of words like "person, woman, man, camera, TV." And I doubt he could survive on a piece of chicken, a piece of broccoli, a (small) tortilla, and one of something else no matter how much of a ketamine stupor he might be in at any given time.
1490wayb · 56-60, M
living to 120 is just around the corner
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
Life forms (animals & plants) die when they can no longer process hydrogen.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Diotrephes
A life form (the body) does die but does the person (i.e. you) also die?
Life forms (animals & plants) die when they can no longer process hydrogen.
A life form (the body) does die but does the person (i.e. you) also die?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@sree251
1 Corinthians 15:13-19 (TLB) = "13 For if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ must still be dead. 14 And if he is still dead, then all our preaching is useless and your trust in God is empty, worthless, hopeless; 15 and we apostles are all liars because we have said that God raised Christ from the grave, and of course that isn’t true if the dead do not come back to life again. 16 If they don’t, then Christ is still dead, 17 and you are very foolish to keep on trusting God to save you, and you are still under condemnation for your sins; 18 in that case, all Christians who have died are lost! 19 And if being a Christian is of value to us only now in this life, we are the most miserable of creatures."
Be sure to let us know when some zombies visit you.
A life form (the body) does die but does the person (i.e. you) also die?
Of course you die when your lifeform dies. Why do you believe in zombies? How many have you seen in your lifetime?1 Corinthians 15:13-19 (TLB) = "13 For if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ must still be dead. 14 And if he is still dead, then all our preaching is useless and your trust in God is empty, worthless, hopeless; 15 and we apostles are all liars because we have said that God raised Christ from the grave, and of course that isn’t true if the dead do not come back to life again. 16 If they don’t, then Christ is still dead, 17 and you are very foolish to keep on trusting God to save you, and you are still under condemnation for your sins; 18 in that case, all Christians who have died are lost! 19 And if being a Christian is of value to us only now in this life, we are the most miserable of creatures."
Be sure to let us know when some zombies visit you.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Diotrephes
No, I don't believe in zombies.
Shades of Ladygrace! Are you a believer also?
I don't believe in zombies of the western kind but there is an aspect of life force that can manifest beyond death of the body. Zen. "Sword of Desperation" speculates how this force can be summoned.
[media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdIXX-6XQV0]
Of course you die when your lifeform dies. Why do you believe in zombies? How many have you seen in your lifetime?
No, I don't believe in zombies.
1 Corinthians 15:13-19 (TLB) = "13 For if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ must still be dead. 14 And if he is still dead, then all our preaching is useless and your trust in God is empty, worthless, hopeless; 15 and we apostles are all liars because we have said that God raised Christ from the grave, and of course that isn’t true if the dead do not come back to life again. 16 If they don’t, then Christ is still dead, 17 and you are very foolish to keep on trusting God to save you, and you are still under condemnation for your sins; 18 in that case, all Christians who have died are lost! 19 And if being a Christian is of value to us only now in this life, we are the most miserable of creatures."
Shades of Ladygrace! Are you a believer also?
Be sure to let us know when some zombies visit you.
I don't believe in zombies of the western kind but there is an aspect of life force that can manifest beyond death of the body. Zen. "Sword of Desperation" speculates how this force can be summoned.
[media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdIXX-6XQV0]
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
sree251 · 41-45, M
@whowasthatmaskedman
Who is Kurt?
You are not dead yet. The Devil can appear before you make the exit and messed it up for you. I am not wishing you ill but pride comes before a fall, something Trump is heading for big time.
I like your story but the world we live in is something else. America has a story as good as your also. Like you, America's death has yet to come. Will the US vanish unscathe like you also?
Nowhere near Nirvana. But look what happened to Kurt...
Who is Kurt?
My aim has always been to get to the other end with as little regret as possible. And Yes. I do sound pompous even to me. But I had a lot of luck and I never took the easy path. So I feel entitled.
You are not dead yet. The Devil can appear before you make the exit and messed it up for you. I am not wishing you ill but pride comes before a fall, something Trump is heading for big time.
PS. Our kids learned by my example and are both successful in careers and as families of their chosen path. Another piece of luck I can feel pompous about.. See? I know I am not perfect and I am OK with that..😷
I like your story but the world we live in is something else. America has a story as good as your also. Like you, America's death has yet to come. Will the US vanish unscathe like you also?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@sree251 Kurt Cobain. Vocalist of "Nirvana" Read all about it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Cobain
Aso for the rest, as an Atheist I believe we make our own Devils. And I have put mine to rest. As i said. I dont need to be perfect.. And why would the USA vanish? It will just fade as it is hollowed out like an old mine shaft..And thats because greedy people mined it, rather than fed it and kept it healthy.😷
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Cobain
Aso for the rest, as an Atheist I believe we make our own Devils. And I have put mine to rest. As i said. I dont need to be perfect.. And why would the USA vanish? It will just fade as it is hollowed out like an old mine shaft..And thats because greedy people mined it, rather than fed it and kept it healthy.😷
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Charity · 70-79
@sree251
The Bible version is not my spiritual guide and I did write the words King James version.
Fundamentalist - when one look at the different interpretations of some scriptures. The Bible doesn't "literally" say in years to come people will receive microchips in their head or right hand, it is defined using the word mark.
The Bible doesn't "literally" say in the years to come there will be a one world government but uses animals as descriptions and you know what each and every country has an animal representation.
What I do is take scripture as truths or as close to truth as men's interpretations has allowed.
The Bible version is not my spiritual guide and I did write the words King James version.
Fundamentalist - when one look at the different interpretations of some scriptures. The Bible doesn't "literally" say in years to come people will receive microchips in their head or right hand, it is defined using the word mark.
The Bible doesn't "literally" say in the years to come there will be a one world government but uses animals as descriptions and you know what each and every country has an animal representation.
What I do is take scripture as truths or as close to truth as men's interpretations has allowed.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Charity
Ok
Mark of the beast. Why do you view "microchips" as the mark of the devil? Do you disapprove of all technical applications and consider them "unclean"? This is an Amish attitude and some of them don't use any modern convenience. In principle, I think they have got it right but living off grid? I can't hack it.
Yes, we have the bald eagle. What has animal representation got to do with one world government? Are you against globalism? Is it ganging up against God as in the Tower of Babylon?
Cite me one scriptural truth.
The Bible version is not my spiritual guide and I did write the words King James version.
Ok
Fundamentalist - when one look at the different interpretations of some scriptures. The Bible doesn't "literally" say in years to come people will receive microchips in their head or right hand, it is defined using the word mark.
Mark of the beast. Why do you view "microchips" as the mark of the devil? Do you disapprove of all technical applications and consider them "unclean"? This is an Amish attitude and some of them don't use any modern convenience. In principle, I think they have got it right but living off grid? I can't hack it.
The Bible doesn't "literally" say in the years to come there will be a one world government but uses animals as descriptions and you know what each and every country has an animal representation.
Yes, we have the bald eagle. What has animal representation got to do with one world government? Are you against globalism? Is it ganging up against God as in the Tower of Babylon?
What I do is take scripture as truths or as close to truth as men's interpretations has allowed.
Cite me one scriptural truth.
Charity · 70-79
@sree251
You ask why do I view the microchip as the mark of the beast? it fits
No I do not consider technology as unclean -- But I do have views on what technology is doing to the Earth and inhabitants of the Earth -- What is actually clean on this planet? -- and I do not have an Amish attitude of modern convenience but I do see what modern convenience has done to mankind and the planet -- I love country life / with modern conveniences such as television, and transportation, refrigeration, and communication.
You ask what does animals have to do with the One world government?The scriptures in the Old and New Testaments use animals as representation of governments -- Makes me no difference what the governments do. When they began to form NATO and the European Union decades ago that was the start --- you ask, Is it ganging up against God like in the Tower of Babel. In the Tower of Babel they were not ganging up against God they were going up in the sky to find him, after all that's where they saw him coming from and going to. There are over 2.6 billion Christians, there are an estimated 2 billion Muslims, there are an estimated 15 million Jews who practice Judaism, and when you factor in Buddhism and all the other forms of worship of the slightly over six billion adults on this Earth ((statistics say there is close to 2 billion children)) that leaves a few hundred million atheist or agnostics and they gang up against Christians even though Muslims and Jews serve the same God just different names.
Site you one scriptural truth, why you will deny it in some shape, form, or fashion.
I'll give you this three 1) Genesis 1:9 and God said let the waters under the heavens be together together in one place, and let the dry land appear and it was so. science has determined Earth was once a water world with no visible land
Scientists determine early Earth was a ‘water world’ by studying exposed ocean crust | NSF - U.S. National Science Foundation https://share.google/K5d6zvZK00YxqjD6S
2) Job 26:7 the Earth hangs on nothing
3) Isaiah 40:22 God sits above the circle of the Earth while most other cultures thought the Earth was flat even until the modern days
You ask why do I view the microchip as the mark of the beast? it fits
No I do not consider technology as unclean -- But I do have views on what technology is doing to the Earth and inhabitants of the Earth -- What is actually clean on this planet? -- and I do not have an Amish attitude of modern convenience but I do see what modern convenience has done to mankind and the planet -- I love country life / with modern conveniences such as television, and transportation, refrigeration, and communication.
You ask what does animals have to do with the One world government?The scriptures in the Old and New Testaments use animals as representation of governments -- Makes me no difference what the governments do. When they began to form NATO and the European Union decades ago that was the start --- you ask, Is it ganging up against God like in the Tower of Babel. In the Tower of Babel they were not ganging up against God they were going up in the sky to find him, after all that's where they saw him coming from and going to. There are over 2.6 billion Christians, there are an estimated 2 billion Muslims, there are an estimated 15 million Jews who practice Judaism, and when you factor in Buddhism and all the other forms of worship of the slightly over six billion adults on this Earth ((statistics say there is close to 2 billion children)) that leaves a few hundred million atheist or agnostics and they gang up against Christians even though Muslims and Jews serve the same God just different names.
Site you one scriptural truth, why you will deny it in some shape, form, or fashion.
I'll give you this three 1) Genesis 1:9 and God said let the waters under the heavens be together together in one place, and let the dry land appear and it was so. science has determined Earth was once a water world with no visible land
Scientists determine early Earth was a ‘water world’ by studying exposed ocean crust | NSF - U.S. National Science Foundation https://share.google/K5d6zvZK00YxqjD6S
2) Job 26:7 the Earth hangs on nothing
3) Isaiah 40:22 God sits above the circle of the Earth while most other cultures thought the Earth was flat even until the modern days
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Roundandroundwego You know... I cant argue with that...😷
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@whowasthatmaskedman it's not like they don't have other choices.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@NativePortlander1970 I agree. But its much earlier than that..It was just done more discretely..😷
NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
@whowasthatmaskedman Not to the extent as it has been in the last 35 years, Bill Clinton was the first establishment pushed candidate.
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