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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
I think it's terrorism to starve people unnecessarily while fighting hamas, I've seen the pictures and I've heard from kids saying they haven't ate in three days or so. I'd like to mention that they were putting some type of drugs into the flour too.
I understand war is ugly but it's unnecessary starvation and doing unnecessary things. At this point, Hamas has honestly killed less people than israel so if we're doing like a side by side comprison here.
I understand war is ugly but it's unnecessary starvation and doing unnecessary things. At this point, Hamas has honestly killed less people than israel so if we're doing like a side by side comprison here.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@ron122 I wonder why that is so hilarious to you.
https://apnews.com/article/gaza-palestinians-starvation-famine-israel-children-3a7403d4f6ec483a03d6cbb0c45fd06a
Five starving children at a Gaza City hospital were wasting away, and nothing the doctors tried was working. The basic treatments for malnourishment that could save them had run out under Israel’s blockade. The alternatives were ineffective. One after another, the babies and toddlers died over four days.
https://apnews.com/article/gaza-palestinians-starvation-famine-israel-children-3a7403d4f6ec483a03d6cbb0c45fd06a
Richard65 · M
Cooper is abusing her authority. The insidious method she used to proscribe PA (lumping them in with two other violent neo-Nazi groups so MPs had no choice but to proscribe all three groups together in one collective vote) shows she knew she was on very shaky legal ground. The decision needs to be overturned in court next month. She's a disgrace. I do like the idea of the new dissenting group now calling themselves Yvette Cooper. They stated they called themselves that in the hope they'd be proscribed too, meaning Yvette Cooper will have to proscribe Yvette Cooper as a terrorist organisation.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@ArtieKat Though many MPs are keeping w expressing regret, including Peter Hain. As a young man, he was a leader against Apartheid South Africa. As on older man who has changed politically, he still cant escape the comparison. Though at this point, it is harsh on Apartheid South Africa.
Not that MPs votes are always perfect, for lots of obvious reasons.
Not that MPs votes are always perfect, for lots of obvious reasons.
Richard65 · M
@ArtieKat In a statement after the vote, Palestine Action said the home secretary had "bundled our domestic civil disobedience protest group in with two violent, neo-Nazi militias".
"Many MPs told us that as a consequence they felt they did not have the option to vote against the measure," it said.
The group added it was "confident that this unlawful order will be overturned".
BBC News
If you can't see how Cooper forced MPs to vote in favour, then you're exactly the kind of cuck the government relies on to lie down and let them walk all over you. You continue supporting genocide and the starvation of children. A sorry hill for you to die on.
"Many MPs told us that as a consequence they felt they did not have the option to vote against the measure," it said.
The group added it was "confident that this unlawful order will be overturned".
BBC News
If you can't see how Cooper forced MPs to vote in favour, then you're exactly the kind of cuck the government relies on to lie down and let them walk all over you. You continue supporting genocide and the starvation of children. A sorry hill for you to die on.
SchoolBelle · 61-69, F
Breaking into a RAF base and sabotaging aircraft vital to the defence of the realm is, no matter your motive, terrorism.
What is the mental fortitude, the strength of purpose of these people if they want to act like terrorists but be treated like naughty school children?
Are they, in effect, not prepared to face the consequences of their actions?
The Voyagers damaged are air to air refuellers not compatible with the Israeli in flight refueling system. They were not being sold to the IDF.
It is a shame that you should make such a mistake.
Unless, of course you are one of Farage's useful fools, trying to undermine government actions against terrorism, to allow N(ational) F(ront) another opportunity to call Labour out.
What is the mental fortitude, the strength of purpose of these people if they want to act like terrorists but be treated like naughty school children?
Are they, in effect, not prepared to face the consequences of their actions?
The Voyagers damaged are air to air refuellers not compatible with the Israeli in flight refueling system. They were not being sold to the IDF.
It is a shame that you should make such a mistake.
Unless, of course you are one of Farage's useful fools, trying to undermine government actions against terrorism, to allow N(ational) F(ront) another opportunity to call Labour out.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@SchoolBelle Supplying 1,200,000 tons of food to gaza is a war crime?
SchoolBelle · 61-69, F
@sunsporter1649 Did I say that? Really?
I observed and referred to a fact, not some emotional pro/anti claptrap.
I observed and referred to a fact, not some emotional pro/anti claptrap.
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Miram · 31-35, F
@ostfuidctyvm
If the rule of law shields a terrorist state while punishing those who oppose it, that’s not law it’s complicity.
Decades of polite activism haven’t stopped the killing, have it? We already followed the rules. Where did that lead us? Without real disruption, nothing changes. The laws are the opioid of the people. The giant is asleep and it needs be awakened.
If the rule of law shields a terrorist state while punishing those who oppose it, that’s not law it’s complicity.
Decades of polite activism haven’t stopped the killing, have it? We already followed the rules. Where did that lead us? Without real disruption, nothing changes. The laws are the opioid of the people. The giant is asleep and it needs be awakened.
Miram · 31-35, F
@ostfuidctyvm It is not wrong to share your views. But I had to say mine too. There is a chinese saying that translates to something close to The weak are afraid of the strong, and the strong are afraid of those who have nothing to lose. And that sadly applies to more than the case of Palestine. It applies to all other activism related to humanitarian causes. Those in power only bend when they realize that the people are willing to die for their beliefs, not just go to jail and get criminalized. That's the scariest thing to them.
HiFiRaver · 18-21, M
As much as people complain about America, I’ve been feeling grateful when I look at the erosion of freedoms in the UK. The lunacy and cognitive dissonance and now straight up repression it takes to keep defending this genocide is staggering.
The audacity of someone like Starmer to say he will recognize Palestine but continue to offer Netanyahu unconditional support…
The audacity of someone like Starmer to say he will recognize Palestine but continue to offer Netanyahu unconditional support…
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@NativePortlander1970 I've been part of a political movement relentlessly attacked from the right by the guardian..so I have issues.
What part of the report do you think no is factually inaccurate and why? This article has clear sourcing and uses the IDF:s own figures...
What part of the report do you think no is factually inaccurate and why? This article has clear sourcing and uses the IDF:s own figures...
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Burnley123 I didn't. Out with my comments.
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@wrule 'Splain to us what "from the river to the sea" means.
ArtieKat · M
I would have thought that an intelligent person like you, @Burnley123 could tell the difference between free speech and criminal damage?
Northwest · M
@ArtieKat
Destruction of public property and national security assets are to be dealt with by law enforcement. We dealt with this during the 2020 riots in Seattle and Portland. Despite the MAGA lies, every single person who committed crimes was identified, pursued, and tried during the Biden years.
But, back to the original topic of this conversation. It seems to be an to be a freedom of speech issue, not one of destruction of property.
OK, so where do you stand on organisations which promote the destruction of public property - in particular national security assets?
Destruction of public property and national security assets are to be dealt with by law enforcement. We dealt with this during the 2020 riots in Seattle and Portland. Despite the MAGA lies, every single person who committed crimes was identified, pursued, and tried during the Biden years.
But, back to the original topic of this conversation. It seems to be an to be a freedom of speech issue, not one of destruction of property.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
"In Lieu Of Dystopian Sci-Fi Movie, American Just Watching News From England"
The terrorists are those who continue to stand with Israel as they commit genocide in the name of "self-defense" and who allow Israel to play the anit-Semitism card whenever they feel criticised.
Richard65 · M
@sunsporter1649 ask Netanyahu and his Likud Party. They've said it enough times. The saying was even part of their 1977 election manifesto.
@sunsporter1649 deflection.
@sunsporter1649
In 2014 Ariel Sharon said, "Between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea there will be only one state, which is Israel." The phrase has been used by the Israeli prime minister, Likud's Benjamin Netanyahu, in speeches. Similar wording has also been used more recently by other Israeli politicians.