500 people arrested for holding signs against a genocide.
Palestine Solidarity Actions has been designated as a terrorist organisation by our 'Labour' government. This means that anyone involved in it or supporting it (by holding a sign) is subject to prosecution under the Terrorism Act. PSA's crime was damaging military equipment being sold to Israel, which Israel is using to commit genocide. Yvette Cooper says that the public doesn't know all the details but will not give them.
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Meanwhile in Gaza:
Who are the terrorists here?
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My comment to Burnley was about wider issues - not about the videos
Why would the "wider issues" be an "issue" here? this reminds of the national guard trying to occupy LA, when in fact, the issue was isolated to a couple of blocks around the federal building, using the "wider issues" as an excuse.
@ArtieKat Criminal damage is a thing that can be prosecuted and has been prosecuted. Terrosrism though?
To meet most international definitions, terrorism threatens harm against people, not property. Under this law, supporting a group that did damage to property (military property that supports an actual genocide) is deemed as terrorism. Holding a sign that says you support Pa; Palestine Solidarity Action and you are against terrorism makes you culpable by the definition of the 'Terrorism Act'. This is draconian, to say the least.
@Burnley123 Draconian maybe but from the comments I read from non-aligned members of the British public, it was appropriate. Very few people outside the leftist bubble can understand the tacit support for a terrorist organisation which would not tolerate their right-on credentials.
@ArtieKat Public opinion in Britain is turning hard against Israel. I don't claim to be 'right on' because virtue signalling has no interest for me. I do claim to be right, What I predicted from the start is coming trie and now most people are realising this.
@Burnley123 I didn't mention Israel - my comment was intended to show that the British people are fed up with having their own lives - and security - impacted by extremists (whether home-grown or not)
@ArtieKat Implied within your argument then is the PSA supporting activists (including the blind man arrested on is wheelchair) are extremists. The Israeli govt are not extremists. The sensible centrist compromise is to see this as normal?
@Burnley123 What has Israel at all to do with this? Is it too simple to suggest that if anybody doesn't like what the Israeli government is doing that they take their protests to Tel Aviv or Jerusalem and let the rest of us in Britain get on with our lives?
@ArtieKat Israel has everything to do with this. Obviously. In addition ,the RAF is still doing reconnaissance missions for them and we are supplying them with plain parts. Whilst they are committing a genocide, which presumably, you don't support?
@Burnley123 As you well know, I don't believe what is happening - tragic as it is - meets the criteria of genocide. And, as I'm sure you know that trying to alter government policy by force comes under the Terrorism Act. Go and talk to your mates in Hamas about organising a ceasefire.
@ArtieKat Every time I see this argument it fractures my brain a little.
The IDF is in every provable fashion just outright murdering people. Blocking ambulances. Shooting boys in the groin. Mass texting health care workers informing them they are "enemies" and what that means. Specifically blocking infant formula from reaching Gaza. Sniper fire on people trying to rescue those under the rubble. What remains of a population of two million is being starved to death.
The IDF just murdered an entire crew of reporters.
Israel is openly bragging about this. It is widely filmed and being reported on across the entire planet. I know and have spoken with a Gazan refugee who receives information of friends and family dying every day. Hamas, whatever is left of it, has no power or authority.
Your response to this outright sadism is to just try to smugly define what genocide means.
@ArtieKat don’t know who that is, but in a democracy, freedom of speech is not a partisan issue and those who suppress it cannot possibly be part of that democracy.
Destruction of public property is not freedom of speech, however that’s not what the protesters here are doing.
