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Thoughts on Kamala

Not experienced enough for President
She hasn't proved anything so for did nothing about the border.
Bad Idea
Vin53 · M
Being VP and Senator doesn't count as experience?

Do you think trump had experience?
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Vin53

Being VP and Senator doesn't count as experience?

To be the CEO of a million-person work force and Commander in Chief of all armed services?
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jackjjackson · 61-69, M
The camel’s policies will destroy the United States. Makes Omar and Cortez look like right wingers.
nedkelly · 61-69, M
@jackjjackson Under Biden it was an open door policy
JollyRoger · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson she'll get around to it.
Now ,quit ducking and put up some good arguments. Hello...I can't hear you!!
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Notsimilarreally · 31-35, F
Experienced in what ways? She is VP going on four years. Don't tell me you think trump had enough experience when he won in 2016 now.... I'm not a fan of either of these kooks tbh but I like throwing my objective opinions out now and then
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nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@Notsimilarreally I think you are starting to understand. The thing you are still missing is the difference between successful experience and non-successful experience. Huge differences.
JollyRoger · 70-79, M
@nudistsueaz I think we need an example of Trump's 'real-life experience' as you see it! Is real-life the experience of raping people? Is it defrauding people? Is it degrading people's self-respect? Is it cozing up to criminals from other countries and declaring them to be 'friends' that builds real-life experiences? Is it urging people who simply admire you, to break the law and incite them to riot a valuable real-life qualifier to hold public office?

How about: Harris' real-life experience. Does being trusted to examine complex criminal investigations and determining if there is a Constitutional criteria being met to force them to face a judge to answer for their crimes? On the otherhand: Does examining a criminal investigation and seeing the social pressures that caused a person to step over the line into criminality for survival and then deciding that the person could use a second chance and a break, qualify as 'real-life' experience?
Now: You name a few 'real-life' experiences that qualify Mr. Trump over Mrs. Harris as good candidates to lead your country.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
The thought of her as president brings the memory of that giant swishing sound that Ross Perot tried to warn us about 15 or 20 years ago. With her comes the double-down on what Biden did and an economy with equity being its major product. So can we afford another 4 years of squabbling over what pronouns we can use to address one another? And a Washington trying over and over to transfer the earnings of our plumbers, electricians and carpenters to be given to another 12 million newly arriving immigrants and to those who borrowed $100K to finance their college major in protest?

Add Dwight Eisenhower's warning to Perot's. Anyone remember? Hint: it was about the military industrial complex. And who would know about that better than the General of the Armies? Is the US's main export now military weaponry? Weapons paid for with money we give to Ukraine, Israel and others scattered around the globe?
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@samueltyler2 As I recall, that last payout was complicated, with the checks being sent to people who had already filed tax returns, and us last minute filers ending up in confusing territory.

We have no mortgage nor car payments, so just the cost of food, utilities and insurance; and fixing what gets broken. So why did I get the covid money?

Also as I recall, there were a few SBA programs we investigated for the business at the time. They required a 25% reduction in revenue caused by COVID, so dentist probably suffered far greater losses since they had to practically suspend services for months. As I recall also, partnerships and sub-S corps were burdened with lots of extra paper work, which I imagine hit many medical groups. So the proverbial caught between a rock and a hard place for many.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Heartlander unfortunately it did.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@samueltyler2 Yea, trying to remember, for partnerships the SBA required financial disclosures of all partners, including tax returns. Some partnerships may have a many-many partners, and that would have been an extreme burden when you consider partners probably file joint returns and partners may also be partners in additional groups. And that was to apply with no assurance of approval. To help when the needs were immediate?
Baremine · 70-79, C
@samueltyler2 Barrack Obama Hillary Clinton.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Baremine really, and what Jakes you think that? They want d to give all people access to health care, is that communism, not good public health policy? Was she supported in her election bid by Russian interference?
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samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout that is really a deplorable posting!
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SDavis · 56-60, F
Texas border has always been and will always be a problem.

Trump lied and illegal migrants went up - closing the border didn't stop them from coming
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/04/trumps-misleading-chart-on-illegal-immigration/

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/03/02/how-border-apprehensions-ice-arrests-and-deportations-have-changed-under-trump/

But under Biden legal immigration spiked to extremes. Biden was trying to be a humanitarian which in most cases have its drawbacks.
aradia11 · 61-69, F
@SDavis Some very good points, you made here, living in Houston wow, I lived in AZ yet only saw smaller portions of the problems.
I often wonder what is the solution?
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@SDavis @aradia11

My love affair with the border area and Mexico goes back to the early 1960s, and i can pretty much trace the transitions from then to now. A number of things contributed to the immigration crisis we have now. Under both Democrat and Republican administrations. But more recently it's been the Biden/Obama duo that propped the gate open. Until then, illegal border crossing was a crime, like it is for most countries on earth. Before then, when someone got caught they got deported. If they got caught doing it over and over the penalty was jail time. Pretty much the same rule for every country on earth. The deterrent for practically every crime that exists is to stiffen the penalty for repeat offenders. Does anyone with more than 2 DWIs ever get his/her license back?

I'm not a fan of the wall, for a lot of reasons. I also spent some time in the Canal Zone where it was the FENCE that became the object of contention. The wall will likely one day become the object of contention, like in Panama, separating the haves from the have nots. More likely than not as drug cartels get more and more powerful.

There's a lot more to our border issues, but the best first step in solving all of them is to throw Democrats out of Washington and make illegal border crossing a crime again and deport first time offenders. And like with any other crime, up the penalty when someone does it again. Do that and we may not need the wall, and I may be here protesting the wall :)

SDavis · 56-60, F
@Heartlander copier and I see. I seriously doubt you go back to 1960. You would have indicated that long before I did.

And illegal border crossing is still illegal...... And Texas borders has always been open to legal _ legal _ legal immigrants - and they passed the law in 1952 making it such
https://guides.sll.texas.gov/immigration-law


Statistics show that more people are coming because not only are they coming from Mexico they're coming from all areas of Central America and South America person and a strong population increase..

And Obama deported more illegals than Trump and did it in a humanitarian fashion person and NEITHER PRESIDENT OBAMA or PRESIDENT BIDEN made it legal. Biden open the borders to legal immigrants, person.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
You do know she had no power there no anything. Further, the Senate developed the most conservative legislation regarding immigration, but Trump told Congress to defeat the bill!.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
That bill ties 40% Ukraine 40% Israel 20% Border all together in one package. Should have been at least one third each. By telling half the story you as a typical dem need to create fiction. @samueltyler2
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Baremine it never passed on the Senate when tRump took of Republicans to quash it! Don't prove your lack of knowledge about how the Senate functions?
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calicuz · 56-60, M
She's been in law her entire career. That's kind of why we call them "Law Makers." 🤷‍♂️
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calicuz · 56-60, M
@nudistsueaz

18 billion dollars is a pretty good chunk of change for consumers. 🤷‍♂️
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Askeladd · 31-35, M
Yep, bad idea. Only positive is she is pro choice and that’s a bare minimum. She literally has nothing else going for her.
Askeladd · 31-35, M
@Vin53 not a conservative. You can’t blame all the division on them.
Vin53 · M
@Askeladd The GOP is the party of trump. Full stop.
Onasander · 41-45, M
@Vin53 Alot of independents like Trump too. The majority of independents who express interest in voting like Trump more than Kamala.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
1. What kind of experience do you want? She was a very effective DA cleaning up the backlog of murder cases by her ineffective predecessor, an effective Attorney General of the largest state in the Union well-respected among her fellow AG's, served in the Senate, and has been Vice President for four years which -- despite all the depictions of the position having nothing to do -- is an understudy of the full spectrum of issues the President is facing.

2. See above for "hasn't proved anything" and as for the border, the assignment she was given by the President was to address the underlying causes of the mass migrations -- not pose for photo opts at the border. She went to those countries where the migrations are originating, helped craft yet another bipartisan comprehensive immigration policy, which was scuttled by Republicans in the Senate.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@dancingtongue She was a complete failure in California in everything she tried.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@nudistsueaz And what part of our state do you live in?
Baremine · 70-79, C
@dancingtongue mind is gone just like Biden.
PatKirby · M
This is how we handle failing border czars over in El Paso, TX

[media=https://youtu.be/Fp6CDPMxycY]
Btw, "Que Mala" means "you're awful".
GeniUs · 56-60, M
Since when has relevant experience ever counted?
She was veep and a criminal prosecutor.
SDavis · 56-60, F
Funny how people will say not experienced enough and get people to agree _ she was a lawyer - was a senator and now Vice President.

What was Trump a businessman who failed in the majority of his endeavors.

Heck just give you true reasons _ whatever they may be - BECAUSE she's got the experience
NinaCherry · 26-30, F
@SDavis yeah shes a decent choice
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
So I would be interested to know who you think is better qualified..🙂
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@aradia11 OK. That defines you are hard right, pro life, and the one thing we agree on is economic rationaism, which is great, except that his tax policy wont do it without sending America back to the stone age.. Sorry. But those are the numbers. The economy is now dependent on those subsidies he would cancel and employment and farm production will plummet.😷
aradia11 · 61-69, F
@whowasthatmaskedman No, I wouldn't consider myself hard right nor left!
Im pro choice, I believe the dream act should be in place. I also think we need to protect our borders. As i stated before our economic growth. I dont think Rand Paul would put us in doenfall.
Jo Jorgensen is Libertarian, so is R Pauls father.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@aradia11 OK. I accept your self assessment. But here is my problem. I am not political at all. But I am a complete economic rationalist. That presents we with a couple of sticking points. First. The numbers say that delivering the greatest advantage to the greatest number of people is to the advantage and progress of the group as a whole. Thats straight out of the branch of math known as Game theory, used by strategists and tactitians all the time to model..
Two. The tax models proposed by Rand Paul et al dont come anywhere near producing the revenue needed to get to the balanced budget he proposes. Thats not even accounting for the repayment of the $35 Trillion the nation owes in overseas debt... So as wonderful as his plan might be, it simply wobt pay for itself.😷
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Nimbus One of my favorite Trump memories is when he said he would build a great wall along the border and get Mexico to pay for it, then fixing a small amount of existing wall and stealing money appropriated for DOD to pay for it.
antonioioio · 70-79, M
You should go for the job
Ye should have young people going for that job
Not old men
NinaCherry · 26-30, F
really surprised at this.
swirlie · 31-35, F
Neither was Trump and neither did Trump.
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Midlifemale · 61-69, M
@Baremine that is one thing she does well, is laugh...because she has nothing worth talking about
PatKirby · M
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nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@Jimbo1 Jim, get back on your meds, please.

 
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