Is it as much radicalization as in the case of these campus protests nationwide, as it is really about outside agitators? Reports said a large number of protesters either detained or arrested were not students.
@Northwest Yes, every civil rights movement has had some violence. It's bad, I condemn it, but it shouldn't be the focus. The only reason the media is making it the focus is because they don't want to talk about Israel's apartheid and genocide.
@BohemianBoo What source are you looking for Boo Boo, you are all over the place. I hear that it's hard to focus when you are busy having sex with any man or woman that will have you, but you have to try and stay on point. Are you getting regular aids tests?
@helenS Great analogy Helen. I say the same thing. Palestinians had everything they asked for, short of the Jews vacating Israel. Israel took care of their needs, but they used 99% of the resources to wage war, instead of helping their own people.
I read that they tore up all the irrigation pipes that watered their fields, in order to build launch stations for their missiles. How much do you have to hate your own people, in order to give up your food supply to wage war against a fictitious enemy?
If you look at the pictures of their launch stations, you can tell they came from irrigation fields.
@DogMan The most important thing for Israel to do is destroying the terror tunnels. To destroy tunnels on the ground, Israeli troops in Gaza will need to find entrances that are often hidden in the basements of civilian buildings, hospitals, schools, kindergardens. Israel should never have left Gaza.
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout I never thought of that. Mao did incite a whole generation of kids to upend Chinese society in the Cultural Revolution in 1966. Then the students erupted again in 1989 Tianamen Square.
@Thinkerbell [quote]Yeah, right, Boo-Boo... there was never a lefty who was ambitious, hungry for power or cruel. Every one of them has been the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.[/quote]
I'm sure there has been because people don't always act consistently with their own values. However, the point is that you can't be both ideologically leftist and ideologically authoritarian. It would be like saying there are some Atheists who believe in a god.
[quote]Of course it was, Boo-Boo; the Russian revolution sent shock waves through Europe.[/quote]
Yes, but the way Fashies gained power was with conspiracy theories about "Cultural Bolshevism" and/or "Jewish Bolshevism." Again, it was a fake version of Communism that drove people to the Right.
[quote]If you don't read them, it's because they strike too close to the truth of you in your mommy's basement.[/quote]
Again with the mommy issues... 🤨
I do have a sugar daddy, so I don't know how much I can disagree here. Like if the implication is that I'm being taken care of by a parental figure, guilty. 😆
[quote]You just got through saying up above that Soviet communism was itself fascism, so how could the German communists have been fighting fascism?[/quote]
A lot of the German Communist opposed the Soviet Union. You may have seen Antifa use the three arrows symbol. That comes from this.
The Social Democrats were a Marxist party that opposed the Monarchs, the Nazis, and the Tankies. They recognized that the Soviet Union was just another form of Authoritarianism, like Monarchy and Nazism.
Now again, I'm not a Marxist, I don't support any form of Anarchy. However, Marxists are generally good people, so I'd gladly stand with them against Fashies.
[quote]Oh, and below, for your delectation, is another cool picture from the 1927 Berlin rally of the KPD.[/quote]
Oh, the KPD was definitely on your side. The Social Democrats opposed them, because they recognized the KPD were tankie-ass Red Fascists. Though I'm sure in your infinite gullibility, you'd be tricked into thinking they were real Commies.
[quote]"However, the point is that you can't be both ideologically leftist and ideologically authoritarian. It would be like saying there are some Atheists who believe in a god"[/quote]
You have it exactly backwards, Boo-Boo. It is the political atheists that don't believe any form of communism can work. The true believers like you are the ones who endlessly argue (or fight) over which form is the purest and most true. 🙄
[quote]"Again, it was a fake version of Communism that drove people to the Right."[/quote]
No, Boo-Boo, it was the only REAL form of Communism that had ever existed on a national level, and it was marching right before their eyes in Germany.
[quote]"I do have a sugar daddy, so I don't know how much I can disagree here. Like if the implication is that I'm being taken care of by a parental figure, guilty."[/quote]
Oh, my mistake... you live in your sugar-daddy's basement, not your mommy's.
[quote]"A lot of the German Communist opposed the Soviet Union. You may have seen Antifa use the three arrows symbol. That comes from this."[/quote]
Nonsense. The sign you posted was from the Social Democrats, NOT the Communists. The Communists split from the Social Democrats (SPD) and practically none of the Communists (KPD) opposed the Soviets, but were enthusiastically behind the abortive revolution of 1918-1919. And it was the SPD director of military affairs Noske that crushed the Spartacists and approved the executions of Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg.
And no, Boo-Boo, the SPD weren't "real" communists either, simply because they didn't favor violent revolution and totalitarianism. The KPD were much more real, as far as violent revolution was concerned; you only have to read Marx:
" The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.
WORKING MEN OF ALL COUNTRIES, UNITE! "
And ANTIFA ? The street hoodlums who "fight fascism" by using fascist tactics? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Thinkerbell [quote] It is the political atheists that don't believe any form of communism can work. The true believers like you are the ones who endlessly argue (or fight) over which form is the purest and most true.[/quote]
This is a weird form of strawmanning, even by your standards. I said that no form of Communism can work, because no form of Anarchy can work. Government will always exist in some form. If we somehow eliminated all government, then the laws would be made and enforced by local warlords. We'd just end up back at Feudalism. I don't want to eliminate government, rather I want to make government as democratic as possible. So yeah, Communism isn't possible. However, I'm not going to pretend that the Nazis were right about Communism being part of a conspiracy by the Jews to make everyone gay and trans. Your nazi theories are just wrong.
[quote]No, Boo-Boo, it was the only REAL form of Communism that had ever existed on a national level, and it was marching right before their eyes in Germany.[/quote]
Even if you consider Tankies to be Communists, then it was still a fake version in that it was the Cultural Bolshevism conspiracy theory.
[quote]Oh, my mistake... you live in your sugar-daddy's basement, not your mommy's.[/quote]
He actually pays my rent. 😝
[quote]Nonsense. The sign you posted was from the Social Democrats, NOT the Communists.[/quote]
Once again... DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING?!!!!
The Social Democrats were open Marxists. They did become Liberals eventually, but that was decades later. When they used the three arrows symbol, they were Marxists.
[quote]And ANTIFA ? The street hoodlums who "fight fascism" by using fascist tactics?[/quote]
Of course you would think that protesting is a form of Fascism. 😆 Fascism is when the government bans speech. Fascism is NOT when Antifa stops Nazis from marching by standing in their way.
@sree251 yes...it's been happening for decades, very slowly, so the public wouldn't notice until it was too late. Both political parties, democrats and republicans have been infiltrated...exactly why both parties despise Trump. Hillary was supposed to win in 2016...and complete the plan Obama started, over the course of two terms. Remember Obama's catch phrase of "fundamentally transforming America." Notice how he never said what America would tranform into? Trump's election in 2016 threw a monkey wrench into their plan...this is why Biden's first term has been so insane, and why the 2020 election was marred with so many irregularities indicating fraud. Commies are trying to make up for lost time.
@BizSuitStacy [quote] Commies are trying to make up for lost time. [/quote]
Yeah, let's call them commies. Snowdon fled when he realized to his horror the stuff he was working on "to protect America". The NSA intelligence gathering apparatus has facilities all over the world including the Data Center in Utah. All paid for by American taxpayers. We are being milked to put ourselves in chains.
[image deleted][image deleted]It seems Mayor Adams came out with remarks on the protestors and their taking down the American flag, replacing it with the Palestinian flag. He was not happy with that. Then at some point before the NYPD ousted the protestors, a representative for them went before the press and requested that sustinence be brought to the protestors. NOTE: Correction : The flag incident was not at Columbia University. It was at City college.
@BohemianBoo Zionism has NOTHING to do with genocide of ANYONE. The only ones that propose genocide, are the Palestinians, and a bunch U.S. college kids. They are the ONLY ones calling for it. Have you watched any of the protests? Probably just the DNC approved videos, am I right?
@ron122 so you're saying it was a mistake for Netanyahu to prop up Hamas all these years...? 🤔
"For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces. The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from. For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group." The Times of Israel 2023 ------------ "For 14 years, Netanyahu's policy was to keep Hamas in power; the pogrom of October 7, 2023, helps the Israeli prime minister preserve his own rule Much ink has been spilled describing the longtime relationship – rather, alliance – between Benjamin Netanyahu and Hamas. And still, the very fact that there has been close cooperation between the Israeli prime minister (with the support of many on the right) and the fundamentalist organization seemingly evaporated from most of the current analyses – everyone’s talking about “failures,” “mistakes” and “contzeptziot” (fixed conceptions). Given this, there is a need not only to review the history of cooperation but also to conclude unequivocally: The pogrom of October 7, 2023, helps Netanyahu, and not for the first time, to preserve his rule" Adam Raz Haaretz Oct 20th 2023 ------------- "The same is true of Netanyahu’s longstanding policy of bolstering Hamas rule in Gaza, including encouraging Israel’s de facto ally Qatar to finance the terrorist organization. While the much-respected Israeli newspaper Haaretz has covered this issue, it has been largely ignored by the international press." The Nation December 2023
@BohemianBoo You do know that the woke, left wing college students are calling for genocide of Jews, just like the Nazis, right? Shouldn't you then be calling THEM Nazis in lieu of the right? No one on the right is calling for genocide of ANYONE.
@graphite Wouldn't that be nice, if it were true! Unfortunately, there are many, many brain dead Dem parents who DO want their kids to attend left wing nut house universities.
Mayor Adams is wrong. The violent spectacles on campus DO have a purpose. They are designed to destroy American youth.
The communists who are presently running this nation desire nothing more than to have brainwashed, Woke, radicalized youth attending ivy league colleges, with the purpose of destabilizing our future.
What does this remind me of? Oh yeah, I think Mayor Daley of Chicago said something similar back in the 60s. It's the same type of game but with different players and a different agenda.
Radicalizing is a form of teaching. Not one that we nessarily like, but it is a form.
And we are all being taught to stand up for when someone gets hurt, and they're doing that... not nessarily in the best way, but if you give a troll attention, it'll keep doubling down as long as it's getting that attention.
@NativePortlander1970 Try convincing students that are struggling in math that there math teachers isn't forcing ideals when she says all other answers other than hers is wrong.
@carpediem The Ivy League should no longer get any federal funding,the donations they do have should be taxed,and they should personally underwrite their own student loans .
