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@DDaverde

Boo-Boo pretends never to have heard of Fabianism. 🤭

@Thinkerbell You got me. Every American college has been controlled by Fabians since the sixties. 🙄

@BohemianBabe

No one said 'every' except you.
The march of 1000 miles begins with a single step, Boo-Boo.

@Thinkerbell First of all, you can't call someone a Commie unless you know what Communism is.
Secondly, you know that the Fabians makes up an infinitely small percentage of influential people in universities. The vast majority of professors, principals, and such are Capitalists.

And this has been the case since the fifties. Have their been a few socialist or commie professors? Yeah, probably. But not nearly enough to make an entire generation socialist or communist. Yet this same conspiracy theory, recycled from the Nazis, has been used over and over since the sixties.

Finally, and I wish I didn't have to say this, you actually don't have to be a Leftists to oppose genocide. Most of the protesters are probably Liberals.

@BohemianBabe


There are many types of communists. I don't place you in the Ernst Thaelmann category; you prefer to stay safe behind your keyboard and talk nonsense about 'genocide,' or any other woke claptrap that contributes to the downfall of the West as it presently exists. That puts you in Lenin's 'useful idiot' category.


Ah, yes... the 'infinitesimal' argument so popular with lefties, in an attempt to hide the extent to which they have made inroads. Take, for example, the Georgia cheating scandal among educators, in the name of DEI.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/02/01/atlanta-cheating-schools-scandal-teachers/

Try again, Boo-Boo; the inroads are not at all 'infinitesimal,' much to your delight.

@Thinkerbell
What's Communism? Can you define it?


What does that have to do with Marxism?

Yes, I know I'm being a wiseass because you don't know what Marxism is. 😝

@BohemianBabe

Nah, you're being a wiseass because you are dodging the points I made.

And for the nth time, communism is a system where the workers own the means of production. It has never yet worked on a national level; they merely traded one privileged ruling class for another. The dictatorship of the Nomenklatura somehow never willingly withers away... it has been known to collapse, however, to be replaced by another dictatorship headed by a former KGB officer, for example.

Armchair Marxists like you content yourselves with making common cause with any movement or idea that opposes your hated status quo in the West, even if it means siding with a theocratic dictatorship. 🤭

@Thinkerbell
Not at all. I'm pointing out that you're wrong for calling me a Communist, and your conspiracy theory that you got from the Nazis is wrong, which you can't defend because you don't even know what Marxism is. At least do some research so you can defend your Nazism.


Wrong, but kinda close. Communism is stateless and classless. Yes, the workers owning the means of production is part of it, but that's only one element. A society isn't communist if there is still a government or any other kind of ruling class.

See, this is why you need to do your homework. You're being a lazy Nazi.


I'm not a Marxist. Despite your narrative, which again, literally comes from the original Nazis, not everyone on the Left is a Marxist.

Also, I find it funny that the Fashies who claim to be defenders of the West actually oppose the values that the West was built on. Democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, equality before the law, you're against all of these things. You like western imagery, but you oppose the values that made the West great.

@BohemianBabe


Wrong. What you describe is Marx's pipe-dream, not communism as it has been practiced, which has been nearly indistinguishable from fascism as far as its record of human rights abuses is concerned. Yes, yes, Boo-Boo, I know communists in power were fond of saying they had only achieved 'socialism' so far, but were 'building communism' in Marx's pipe-dream sense. But in fact they had no intention whatever of giving their power and privileges, any more than any previous ruling class had. 🙄


If you walk, talk and think like a Marxist, then you needn't be surprised that you are taken for one. 🤭

@Thinkerbell
So if that's the case, then that means my definition of Communism is correct, but Communism has never been achieved.


Well yeah, people like Stalin and Mao weren't really Communists or Socialists. They were Authoritarians, like you. The difference is that they used left-wing imagery. But in practice, they were much more similar to Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan than they were Marx's vision.


I'm a Socialist, I'm against Communism. I don't think Socialism should be a step towards Communism, rather it should be the final stage. So while I agree with plenty that Marx said, I disagree with his ideology, which is essentially about reaching Communism.

The reason you take me for a Marxist is because you're a Neo-Nazi, and a major part of Nazism's propaganda is the idea that everyone on the Left is a Marxist being controlled by the Je... I'm sorry, I mean "George Soros."

@BohemianBabe


And if Marx had said a rainbow is an optical phenomenon with a pot of gold at one end, you no doubt would have said it was the correct definition of a rainbow. 🙄

@Thinkerbell You said: "What you describe is Marx's pipe-dream, not communism as it has been practiced, which has been nearly indistinguishable from fascism as far as its record of human rights abuses is concerned."

So basically, Communism is stateless and classless, but in practice no government has achieved Communism. If you're going to say the Soviet Union is Communism in practice because they used the word, you'd also have to say it was a Republic, since they used that word too.
It sounds like you realized you were wrong, but you're ashamed to admit it now. Why else would you have this double-standard when it comes to definitions?

@BohemianBabe



As usual, you botched it, Boo-Boo. You're saying that anyone that hasn't found the pot of gold at the end of Marx's chimerical rainbow can't be a real communist. And what's more, you've let slip that you believe something like a stateless and classless country is possible.


Wrong yet again, Boo-Boo. The Soviet leaders didn't simply use the word. They followed Marxist dogma insofar as staging a violent revolution and setting up the dictatorship of the proletariat (with themselves as dictators, of course). Somehow, however, they never got around to having the state wither away because building communism isn't easy, don'tchaknow; no one has found the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow yet either. And using the word 'republic'? Of course! The dictatorship of the proletariat was representing the interests of the workers, who comprised the vast majority of the population against the evil capitalists, tsarists, fascists, etc., who were a tiny minority.

@Thinkerbell
No, I'm saying that for a society to be communist, it has to meet the definition of Communism. If a society has a government, then that isn't a communist society. Just like how China calls itself a Republic, but it doesn't actually fit the definition of a Republic.

I think it's possible to have an anarchist society, but it wouldn't last long. Eventually, warlords would take over and we'd just be back at Feudalism. That's why I'm not a Communist, I don't see it ever working.


Oh dear. 😆

The "Dictator of the Proletariat" referred to democratic government as well as democratic workspaces. It didn't refer to a literal dictator, which you would know if you actually read Marx's work. But as a Nazi, you're only reading right-wing propaganda about Marx and Marxism.

And really, can you use what little brain you have here? The "proletariat" refers to the workers, which is 99% of society. How can literally millions of people be one dictator? Even if you didn't read Marx's work, a little bit o' logic should tell use that a "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" would need to be Democracy. How else would that work?

By the way, I notice you have a weird obsession with mothers. Do you have mommy issues? That seems to be common among Neo-Nazis.

@BohemianBabe


Which brings us back to the rainbow with the pot of gold at the end being Marx's definition of a rainbow. According to you, Boo-Boo, if it doesn't have a pot of gold, it isn't a rainbow..


Ask Marx and Engels; they used that oxymoronic term . It seems never to have occurred to them that different factions might spring up within the proletariat. The "dictatorship" (whatever it meant) was supposed to suppress the evil bourgeoisie by force and terror, as necessary. Of course, Lenin and Stalin had no doubt as to what it meant: rule by a single dictator at the top, who was, naturally, democratically elected by the workers. Didn't comrade Stalin always get 99% of the vote?


And as for mommy issues, you're the one who lives in your mommy's basement... until recently, that is. 🤭

@Thinkerbell
No, I'm saying things mean what they mean. If your argument is that Communism isn't possible, then sure, I agree. But that doesn't mean Communism doesn't have an agreed upon definition. What's really going on here is that you want to believe in the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory.


Ever since Marx and Engels died, asking them stuff has been rather difficult. 😄

Again, if you actually read their work, you would have known why a Dictatorship of the Proles could ONLY be democratic government. You're saying we can't possibly know what they meant! When like, yes we can, they wrote books. 😆
I understand being embarrassed that you were making such claims about things you know nothing about, but you look worse by pretending to be correct now. You're like Jordan Peterson making claims about Marxism, only to reveal that he never knew what Marxism actually is and now his brain is soup.


Funny story, the Bolsheviks never won an election, they seized power tyrannically. Basically, they did what you want the Republicans to do in America. Bolsheviks, Nazis, Trumpians, Zionists, it's all pretty much the same thing. The imagery is different. Some used left-wing imagery, some used nationalist imagery, some used religious imagery. But in the end, their ideologies differed only slightly.
You like Trumpism because the vibes are right-wing, but your politics aren't much different from that of Stalinism.



You didn't answer the question. Interesting.
Did you have a bad relationship with your mother?

@BohemianBabe


Yeah, you say that now, Boo-Boo, but you wouldn't have said so at the time, if you had been alive in Germany in the 1920s.
You wouldn't have had the nerve to actually street fight in the Rotfrontkaempferbund, but you would have been in the crowd of onlookers at their meeting in Berlin in 1927, drinking in their nonsense hook, line and sinker, along with millions of other useful idiots around the world.



Again, according to Marx, a rainbow could ONLY be a rainbow if it had a pot of gold at the end.
Marx seemed to think that there was something particularly virtuous about members of the proletariat, making them immune to greed, corruption, cruelty and other common human failings. He was a singularly poor judge of human nature.


No, and I didn't live in her basement either, like you do, Boo-Boo.

@Thinkerbell
Pure projection. I oppose modern authoritarian governments like China and North Korea because I don't care what they call themselves, I care what their politics are. They can use all the left-wing imagery they want, but in practice, they're fascist.
You, on the other hand, have fell for Trumpism, which is an authoritarian movement headed by a criminal who openly says he wants to be a dictator on day one.

History really does repeat itself. During the Soviet Union, there was a movement called "The Anti-Stalinist Left." It was actually Leftists who coined the term "Tankies." The Left knew that Bolsheviks and Maoists were just red Fashies. However, the Right totally fell for Nazism. Because the truth is, what we saw in Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Imperial Japan, and Fascist Spain was just the logical conclusion of right-wing politics. That's why you're falling for Trumpism.


Actually, it was kinda the opposite. By giving everyone a voice through Democracy, the government would have to act in a way that benefitted as many people as possible. Marx supported checks and balances, as he wanted government to be as democratic as possible. If the workers are making the policies, then the policies will be made to benefit the workers.
What you want is a system where a handful of people have all the power. And the result of that is virtually always the same. Policies are made for the 1% of people in power, not society as a whole.


You sure about that? 🤨 It does seem like a self-report that you made up something so weirdly specific. Plus your ideology is based in hate, which is usually the result of family issues.

@BohemianBabe


I see you like to call all totalitarians fascists, to make believe that left-wingers can't be totalitarians. 🤣


In Europe, fascism was in large part a reaction against communism (as practiced), so you can thank your friend Marx for that.
In Japan, communism wasn't a significant problem. There, ambitious militarists took over, wishing to enlarge Japan's empire.


A couple of comments back, you agreed that Marx's pipedream is impossible; now you pretend that it's workable. 🙄


Wrong again, Boo-Boo. I have often pointed out on SW that I never voted for Trump. In 2016, as well as in 2020, I left the presidential line on my ballot blank, to indicate that both of the major candidates were unacceptable.

But I have good news for you, Boo-Boo! Your mommy is taking you back into her basement, all is forgiven... as long as you pay rent, that is.


You would have surely been in that communist crowd in Germany in 1927... after all, they were fighting fascism; that's all you would have needed to join them. 🤣

@Thinkerbell
Leftism is about spreading power throughout society. It's why Socialism requires democratic government.
So yes, Leftists can't be Totalitarians. Tankies are right-wing, they just use left-wing imagery. Take away the imagery from Stalinism and you just have Fascism.


😣

Do you know anything?!!!! No, Fascism in Europe wasn't a reaction to Communism. Fascism was a reaction to the material conditions people were suffering from after the first world war, combined with very longstanding racism and conspiracy theories about Jews and LGBT. Like the modern Right, the European Fascists were repackaging old conspiracy theories to scare people into following them, as well as having a scapegoat for the failures of Capitalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

Basically, Fashies repackaged earlier conspiracies about the Jews, this time making it about how the Jews were using queer degeneracy to turn everyone into Marxists. They were fear-mongering over a fake version of Marxism that in no way reflected Marx's politics.
Sure, a lot of Europeans were afraid of the Soviet Union invading, that played a role just like WWI played a role, but the ideology they were reacting to wasn't real, it was just your Nazis' propaganda.


Trumpism is bigger than Trump. Trumpism is the modern version of Fascism that the Republican Party has embraced. DeSantis, who I'd argue is even more dangerous, is also doing Trumpism.


I don't read your boomer-ass cringe poems, I just assume it's more mommy issues. I do think that picture is pretty cool, though. Interesting how you see it as a negative that they were fighting Fascism. What are you trying to tell us?

@BohemianBabe


Yeah, right, Boo-Boo... there was never a lefty who was ambitious, hungry for power or cruel. Every one of them has been the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. 🤣 🤣 🤣


Of course it was, Boo-Boo; the Russian revolution sent shock waves through Europe.


Utter nonsense. The depredations going on in the Soviet Union were real, as you yourself implied a couple of comments back when you admitted that they were totalitarians.


Wrong again, Boo-Boo. I'll worry about Trumpism being fascism when I see Trump or Desantis reviewing tens of thousands of jackbooted storm troopers marching by.


If you don't read them, it's because they strike too close to the
truth of you in your mommy's basement. 🤣 🤣 🤣


You just got through saying up above that Soviet communism was itself fascism, so how could the German communists have been fighting fascism? They were beholden for support from the USSR, and would surely have formed the same kind of government, had they prevailed.

Oh, and below, for your delectation, is another cool picture from the 1927 Berlin rally of the KPD. This one shows a special section that seems to have been set aside for the Rotfront street fighters. Those goons at the lower right scowling at the camera look like a pretty rough bunch.
I hope for your sake that in your previous life there you didn't try joining them... they would have made short work of a soyboy like you. 🤣 🤣 🤣


P.S. Note the slogan above and behind the goons on the right: "Es lebe Sowietrussland"

@Thinkerbell
I'm sure there has been because people don't always act consistently with their own values. However, the point is that you can't be both ideologically leftist and ideologically authoritarian. It would be like saying there are some Atheists who believe in a god.


Yes, but the way Fashies gained power was with conspiracy theories about "Cultural Bolshevism" and/or "Jewish Bolshevism." Again, it was a fake version of Communism that drove people to the Right.


Again with the mommy issues... 🤨

I do have a sugar daddy, so I don't know how much I can disagree here. Like if the implication is that I'm being taken care of by a parental figure, guilty. 😆


A lot of the German Communist opposed the Soviet Union. You may have seen Antifa use the three arrows symbol. That comes from this.


The Social Democrats were a Marxist party that opposed the Monarchs, the Nazis, and the Tankies. They recognized that the Soviet Union was just another form of Authoritarianism, like Monarchy and Nazism.

Now again, I'm not a Marxist, I don't support any form of Anarchy. However, Marxists are generally good people, so I'd gladly stand with them against Fashies.


Oh, the KPD was definitely on your side. The Social Democrats opposed them, because they recognized the KPD were tankie-ass Red Fascists. Though I'm sure in your infinite gullibility, you'd be tricked into thinking they were real Commies.

@BohemianBabe


You have it exactly backwards, Boo-Boo. It is the political atheists that don't believe any form of communism can work. The true believers like you are the ones who endlessly argue (or fight) over which form is the purest and most true. 🙄


No, Boo-Boo, it was the only REAL form of Communism that had ever existed on a national level, and it was marching right before their eyes in Germany.


Oh, my mistake... you live in your sugar-daddy's basement, not your mommy's.



Nonsense. The sign you posted was from the Social Democrats, NOT the Communists. The Communists split from the Social Democrats (SPD) and practically none of the Communists (KPD) opposed the Soviets, but were enthusiastically behind the abortive revolution of 1918-1919. And it was the SPD director of military affairs Noske that crushed the Spartacists and approved the executions of Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg.

And no, Boo-Boo, the SPD weren't "real" communists either, simply because they didn't favor violent revolution and totalitarianism.
The KPD were much more real, as far as violent revolution was concerned; you only have to read Marx:

" The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.

WORKING MEN OF ALL COUNTRIES, UNITE! "

And ANTIFA ?
The street hoodlums who "fight fascism" by using fascist tactics? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Thinkerbell
This is a weird form of strawmanning, even by your standards. I said that no form of Communism can work, because no form of Anarchy can work. Government will always exist in some form. If we somehow eliminated all government, then the laws would be made and enforced by local warlords. We'd just end up back at Feudalism. I don't want to eliminate government, rather I want to make government as democratic as possible.
So yeah, Communism isn't possible. However, I'm not going to pretend that the Nazis were right about Communism being part of a conspiracy by the Jews to make everyone gay and trans. Your nazi theories are just wrong.


Even if you consider Tankies to be Communists, then it was still a fake version in that it was the Cultural Bolshevism conspiracy theory.


He actually pays my rent. 😝


Once again... DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING?!!!!

The Social Democrats were open Marxists. They did become Liberals eventually, but that was decades later. When they used the three arrows symbol, they were Marxists.


Of course you would think that protesting is a form of Fascism. 😆
Fascism is when the government bans speech. Fascism is NOT when Antifa stops Nazis from marching by standing in their way.