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Israel killed 3 Americans in bomb attack - Should the U.S. retaliate?

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Israel with their indiscriminate bombing anything that moves, has murdered 3 Americans delivering food. Should Biden retaliate and send a few bombs into Tel Aviv?
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I'm not sure that most of the people commenting realise that the point of this post is to demonstrate the double standards that that western politicians have on the Gaza situation.

That the intended irony is invisible to these people speaks volumes.
Did they tho?
Let’s recap .
Israel wont ease up on Hamas from international pressure..
now they killed 3 Americans.. apparently..
now what.. that cease fire? Spare hamas?

First they tell us you can’t get aid into Gaza..
now aid workers are being killed in gaza?

Can’t have it both ways…
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When have you heard Israel openly criticize the various drone strikes in Afghanistan launched by the U.S. which killed non combatants? I raise this because our state department is expressing anger at this event.

And the State department if not mistaken
lets U.S. citizens know that if they go to certain areas, they are at risk of harm or death.

The deaths of these three Americans is tragic but they had to have known they were at risk, and in harms way.

We won’t bomb Tel Aviv, nor will we cut off aid to Israel.
And again if not mistaken, Americans are still held by Hamas. So the administration albeit publicly decrying this strike needs to and will tread lightly.
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@Northwest Thanks gor your input.
PleasurePunch · 100+
@soar2newhighs for what???
jackieash · 26-30
Don't forget there were British and Australian aid workers killed, too. As well as a Polish national. No one wins in a situation like this.
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Puppycat23 · F
No because no U.S. citizen was attacked on American soil
@Spoiledbrat Israel has always controlled the borders and controlled the food and water for Gaza. Not much of a life for those living there.
LordShadowfire · 46-50
@independentone [quote]So the weaker side lost.[/quote]
So you admit to taking the side of the bullies.
[quote]Get over it and move on and build your life elsewhere.[/quote]
Somebody hasn't been paying attention to my profile over the last couple of years, or you'd know I live nowhere near Israel. And that wasn't my point in bringing it up.
badlands · 22-25, F
@independentone "Wouldn't you do everything in your power to get your home and land back?"

Maybe, or maybe not. I believe that a home is where someone lives. Other criteria are strict and, to some extent, not in favor of Palestinians. Settlements since 1967 are illegal as Israel has put civilians in occupied territories and built homes for them in those territories, but the other lands stolen from the Palestinians are in Israel and have been since it was established. They are considered "legal." It has to be said that Palestine was not a country. After WWI, there was a struggle between Arab nationalists and Jewish nationalists. The British told both groups that they could have a state in Palestine. Arabs lived in this land, with some Jews. It had belonged to the Ottoman Empire and the British gained control over it. It was theirs to toy with. This is history. It's all wrong, and someone is always made to lose. The Jews lost when they were expelled by the Romans after their struggle for independence, and centuries later they came back to get what they want. Arabs living there were seen as invisible. "Never again" means never again for Jews, not anyone else. Middle Eastern and North African Jews, who did not experience the Holocaust, also became nationalists and see Israel as their homeland. It may not have been their country for a very long time, but it doesn't matter to them.

"Wouldn't you despise the person or group that took it over?"

Group? Does this mean a Jew is right to despise Germans? Germans were Nazis, and they stole homes and murdered people. Should they be hated? No. Hate gets us nowhere. I understand why they feel it, but we can't pretend it is a good thing to feel or that it will help the person feeling it. That said, the Palestinians have endured decades of oppression and are now subject to a mass slaughter and genocide. I feel for the civilians suffering in Gaza. Violence and martyrdom isn't the way. Bombing and shooting civilians is abhorrent, and so is starving them. It seems there is no end in sight to either. This is a mess, and continued war is never going to resolve it. Innocent people are dying, and I feel very sorry for them. Oppression, terror, and being stateless is part of the daily life of a Palestinian.

Going back to my initial question, it was meant to address the purpose that Israel serves to the US. There is no way that a minority group would be given their own state without it being of some benefit to the powers ensuring its creation. Violence and terrorism played some part with the British, who couldn't be bothered to deal with it after making their promise, but what was the reason for the US to accept Israel and make it its closest ally? They have something to gain. Incidentally, Jewish wealth in the US has increased a lot since the mid-century. There is tremendous wealth and influence.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
What is Biden doing for the Americans trapped in Haiti?
@jackjjackson I agree, Biden shouldn't even be running this time in my opinion, but electing someone as bad or even worse certainly isn't the answer.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Until another candidate emerges which he or she will I’m going with RFk Jr. his running mate is hot. @independentone
@jackjjackson I'm with you on that, if I do bother to vote, it will be for Kennedy
badlands · 22-25, F
The three you mention were British, not American. An Australian national, Polish national, an American-Canadian dual citizen and a Palestinian were also killed.

To Israel, their killing had the desired effect of forcing World Central Kitchen to suspend their operations in Gaza and turn back two other ships. A further 240 tonnes of food aid was supposed to be delivered. This charity operates 68 community kitchens in Gaza, and has been feeding civilians throughout the war.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@badlands and decades before the war
@badlands [quote]To Israel, their killing had the desired effect of forcing World Central Kitchen to suspend their operations in Gaza and turn back two other ships.[/quote]
Exactly! That missile attack on the aid convoy was no accident.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@NortiusMaximus i suspect the IDF has many trigger happy rogue actors in its ranks, with ideas that go far beyond the stated mission objectives. The commanders know this. And they are covering. I see no way you can mistake identity like this. The news now is that they are letting AI choose their targets…
Funding for Israel should be stopped until Israel stops attacking Gaza- no more pocket money 🤭

But I don't think they should be sanctioned,etc.
Johnson212 · 61-69, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic Fynding will continue as Hamas continues to prove why their destruction is needed. Then Trump will bring peace.
@Johnson212 Israel isn't destroying Hamas, they are creating more terrorists with their indiscriminate bombing.

And I think you mean, Trump will be looking for a piece.
Johnson212 · 61-69, M
@independentone I think they are indeed destroying them this time, they will eventually get to them all and to those left they will have a really really good understanding of what will happen to them should they want to try this again. They will think twice now before voting in a terrorists organization to be their government again. Is comical listening to you people saying they are wrong yet they have no solution that would work.
Johnson212 · 61-69, M
Nothing to do they should not have been over there feeding those supporters of terrorists.
jackieash · 26-30
@Johnson212 Palestinian children....are terrorists? 🤔
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Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
the fact you dont give another option maybe about something that supports Israels actions says you dont care what ppl really think
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
hamas is a terrorist group israel is defending the land that rightfully should be theres. they shouldnt have to share the land with palestinans
jackieash · 26-30
@Mountainlady16 The Palestinians were there before the modern state of Israel came into being. It is their land as much as the Israelis. What has happened after "October 7" has gone far beyond Israel defending itself and is now behaving like a terrorist state.
@Mountainlady16 The Israelis are targeting non-combatants such as medical personel, aid workers, people under a white flag and even children. Who are really the terrorists here?
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Option 2.

And your use of irony is bang on the money.

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Diotrephes · 70-79, M
Quick, send them $14 Billion.
Probably not.
It would be sad if the killing of 3 Americans makes a difference, but I applaud any government getting to the good side of history for any reason.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Move to Palestine Mr Arnold
Bumbles · 51-55, M
I don’t think so, no.
LordShadowfire · 46-50
We should retaliate by threatening to end support for them.

Then if they don't fall in line, we do it.
@Burnley123 Yep, I just wonder if Biden has the balls to actually end all support?
LordShadowfire · 46-50
@independentone He seems like a team player. If the voters demand it of the Democratic party, he'll go along.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@independentone That is the million dollar question
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LordShadowfire · 46-50
@Puppycat23 I just don't know why you're okay with letting the prime suspect do their own investigation of their drone.
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@Puppycat23 when I do something intentionally, I know it's intentional. Surely that goes for anyone else too.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Ynotisay I don't think it would open it to attack. Not in the short term, anyway.
@Ynotisay Israel is no ally, they are a country who needs someone else to support them.
Ynotisay · M
@independentone Israel is a democracy. If you don't think that matters in the region I'm not sure you're seeing the bigger picture.The issue is that they have extremist leadership that's not in line with the U.S.. At least under Biden. But there's a long game at play here. I personally despise the current Israeli government. I think they're slaughtering innocent people. But this is HARDLY a black and white issue. There's a lot of nations, peripherally or directly, involved in this. That matters.
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@Picklebobble2 At least one of those hostages is some clown from New York who, after Oct 7, went to Israel and joined the IDF and was in a tank happily shooting at civilians and buildings when he was captured. He shouldn't be considered a hostage, but a POW.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@independentone what difference does that make ?
If he wasn't representing the U.S. military he's a mercenary.
@Picklebobble2 exactly, and since it was his choice to go to Israel, the US should do absolutely nothing to help him.
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@NativePortlander1970 How about you go to Israel and join the IDF?
@independentone I would if I wasn't stuck on assisted oxygen 24/7, healthier, and at least 20 years younger, I'd join in a heartbeat.

 
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