@SevIsPamprinYouAlways Obsessed and demented much?

@NativePortlander1970

@YoungPoet345 Once teachers show actual performance rather than following and indoctrinating leftist agendas, then maybe they'd be deserving of their pay.

@NativePortlander1970 @NativePortlander1970 One thing I've seen for sure in Florida schools: Teachers here teach the subject and pretty much leave the political indoctrinating to the inferior blue state schools. Yes, I've subbed for a few left winger teachers. (One had an OBAMA poster on the wall. One had a BLM sticker on his desk). None of that bullshit wound up in the lesson plans.

@NativePortlander1970 See, that's where the state of FLorida is way ahead of the rest of the country. It was around the turn of the century when Governor Jeb Bush (first Republican governor in a generation) signed into law an education reform package that would pull Florida up from the lower 48 percent into the top ten in America. A lot of that had to do with testing and holding teachers accountable.

I read the bill when it first came out. Obviously the teachers didn't like it, because teachers (especially in formerly Democrat Party controlled situations) believe they are not to be held accountable for their actions. It allowed for a lot of parental choice, as far as sending a kid from one school to another. It even allowed for inner city kids to be eligible for government paid PRIVATE SCHOOLS if their inner city schools were failing. Naturally, the Democrats challenged that one in court because there's NO WAY their little pickaninnies will be allowed the excellence of a PRIVATE SCHOOL, and take them out of the ghetto plantation their SLAVE owner Democrats put them.

Since then, legislation has been passed over and over again to improve the conditions of Florida schools. For the most part, they are the best in the country, although results vary from county to county.

The red counties seem to be showing the better results. Blue counties like Broward are a colossal joke to the professionals in this state. Broward's dumbass sheriff's department won't even walk on campus to stop a roving shooter.

@Reason10 I wasnt trying to paint all Republicans with one brush. Not even all Maganites. Some of those follow through stupidity and ignoance. Some through a patriotic/religious furvor to find a Messaih to lead them to the Promised Land (and they will believe any promise) and some through greed. Not all the same at all. But I do agree with your closing remark. All uneducated idiots will follow their Fuhrer..It really doesnt matter which side. They follow because they refuse to think for themselves..😷

@whowasthatmaskedman If there is a major difference between Democrats and Republicans it's the THINKING thing. Democrats do not think. They are stupid. They all march to whatever Fuhrer gives them the ideological path.
Republicans cannot agree on lunch. They are the ONLY independent thinkers in America, probably because they are all over the place, ideologically.

Frankly, I believe independent thinking is much healthier than Nazism/Liberalism, which is mostly the Democrat party.

@IronHamster Agreed, as far as "no child left behind." Whatever well intentioned that nonsense was, it had the wrong effect on education.

@GerOttman You have a point. At a lot of Florida middle schools, the threat of suspension no longer has any power because the little bastard would just sit at home playing video games all day long. For that reason, they have what's called IN SCHOOL SUSPENSION, classrooms where they experience the first hints of incarceration. No phones, no video games, just hard time in class. Usually their teachers have to come up with assignments for the kids to do during ISS.

@Reason10 What do blue states say about tolerating personalities? It seems to me that if you are with a group of children for this amount of time, you will have to tolerate who they are. When people are conceived and then born, they will develop personality features. Some of these features are predetermined, and with us forever. At least half of our personality characteristics are inherited, with environment being responsible for the rest of it.

America is a place for individuals, right? You should have subbed for schools in Asia if you are looking for something else.

@sascha @sascha
[b][c=003BB2] It seems to me that if you are with a group of children for this amount of time, you will have to tolerate who they are[/c][/b]
Nope. That's not a teacher's job. Oh, and children are GROWING and probably will not be the same personality the NEXT YEAR, much less in adulthood. Blue states care more about safe spaces and participation trophies than producing educated children. Florida doesn't. That's why we have the best schools in the country.

[b][c=003BB2]When people are conceived and then born, they will develop personality features. Some of these features are predetermined, and with us forever[/c][/b]

The more you add to this post, the more it looks like you've been locked in a room for most of your life because most people CAN'T be that stupid. Everything a child is, every PERSONALITY is achieved by environment. ALL behavior is learned. A baby basically cries, eats and shits. Everything a child achieves is what HE OR SHE learned.
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America is a place for individuals, right? You should have subbed for schools in Asia if you are looking for something else.[/c][/b]

A couple of things: 1. ALL schools (including public schools) are about as anti-INDIVIDUAL as it gets. That's the nature of putting a teacher in front of a classroom with 30 some students, rather than the state paying for one teacher per student. The idea of raising a child is communicating the fact that the world doesn't revolve around the one child, the one spoiled brat. At least Florida schools make an effort in that direction

2. Your extremist goose stepping left wing ideology is the most anti individual philosophy in the world. You are a collectivist Socialist. Individualism is kryptonite to your ideology.

3. (Feel free to correct me on this if I'm wrong about abortion. ) You are pro ABORTION. (You call it pro-choice, but it's pro abortion.) It's strange that you would acknowledge that PEOPLE are conceived, not useless masses of tissue. I actually agree with your statement that PEOPLE ARE CONCEIVED.

@Reason10 "not their job"? It is their job to "teach", which includes all forms of teaching and training, children who are not theirs.

Our most important behaviors are never learned. Everything that we need is already there, and our paths may already be determined. Our genetics determine our response to our environments, and we were given the knowledge that we have. I take credit for nothing. Everything I have has been given by another person, like my parents, the Creator, or my children. The frustration my youngest child, a six-month-old baby, expresses when she is trying to hold a sensory ball firmly in both hands but doesn't quite have the grip or strength to hold it for long before it drops, has not been learned. And, no one taught her to get excited when she sees these toys. I have never seen such pure joy or excitement, except that on the faces of little children.

You have admitted that schools are about beating the individual out of us, so you know that this is part of your job. Not only about education, is it?

I hate abortion.

@Goodluckwiththat That's pretty depressing and unpleasant, but it's 100 percent correct.

@Handfull1 It's very human for one to believe he/she knows all the solutions.
I make the case that the problem with education is mostly caused by Democrats because that party created the welfare state, which broke up families and put the disrupting animals in the classroom.
I'm trying to find ONE single problem that can be traced back to Republicans. Maybe education suffered in the late 19 Century because Republicans outlawed slavery and suddenly colored people would have to be included in the mix. Certainly, racist Democrats who ALL believe blacks are inferior as a race would come to that conclusion.
Thing is, I'm seeing the problem from almost the teacher's point of view. (Almost, because I'm not under the same pressure as a real teacher. A little shit acts out and I have the bastard removed and I don't have to face the parents. Stuff like that.) Their problems in the classroom come from animals who are from fatherless homes and the Democrat party is singularly responsible for that.
I don't want to blame the teachers for the hand that has been dealt them. Unlike a lot of conservatives, I don't see all teachers as being too left wing and too lazy to do their jobs.

@Reason10 it might be human but it’s not me! Maybe I’m not human?

@Handfull1 Some people believe they have all the solutions. Some don't. One of the things the big companies maintain, when it comes to a college degree as the ante to get into the game, is the fact that a bachelor's degree means you don't know anything but can learn, and a Masters Degree means you had better know what you're doing. Hence the "all the solutions" origins, I suppose.

@Adrift Oh, HELL YEAH. Latino and Asian kids live in fear of their dads if they screw up and bring home a bad report card.

@Spoiledbrat You are a lot nicer than I am.
A lot of parents frankly don't give a shit about their kids' education. They look at the public school system as a taxpayer financed FREE DAYCARE center, where they can drop the kids off, go back to sleep, and watch afternoon soap operas. And those kids usually have the most issues in class when it comes to behavior, as well as turning in the work.

@Handfull1 My older step sister started teaching jr high in the middle of nowhere iowa in 1985 and retired in 2020 after 35 years, she will tell you the same thing, that things started showing leftist ideology under Clinton, and that wokeness got even worse under Obama, that being told that CRT was to be taught was the last straw, prompting her to leave the system.

@NativePortlander1970 Not all teachers are that way. Florida has much higher standards than blue states. Our teachers actually are required to do the job.

@Reason10 Except that iowa is a red state, except when it comes to education, it seems to fall in line with leftist agendas by what I have heard from some parents.