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Education: It's not all the teacher's fault

Yes, SOME of the blame has go to to teachers. I've subbed for a teacher who was suspended for punching a student. I subbed for another who grabbed a student by the front of the shirt and lifted him up in anger. Teachers aren't perfect.

Thing is, all the degrees in the world do not prepare a person to TEACH. If you ask ANY teacher, he/she will tell you that the real teaching training begins the first time the candidate faces the classroom. If you see a teacher who has been on the job for more than ten years, that is a VALUABLE part of the system, because that person has had training that NO university can provide.

The other problem is, it is the teacher's job to TEACH, not manage a bunch of idiots who were never properly raised by their parents, who don't want to be there and who think nothing of disrupting the class.

And for a lot of you goose stepping NaziLibs, it's not a race thing.

I've subbed at many inner city black-ish schools were most of the student body was black, (one school in particular where the front office gave us a sheet outlining the fact that a lot of the boys were actually the man of the house. That actually happened.) This little black hoodlums were raised by THESE entitled thug parents.


By the same token I've subbed at some predominately white schools with almost a MIRROR IMAGE of the same misbehavior and lack of parental guidance. And the schools didn't always wind up in low income neighborhoods.

So it's NOT about race or color. Unlike racist liberals (yeah, I know, that's a redundancy) I am colorblind when it comes to education. I've subbed at one inner city elementary school where the kids (mostly black) were as well behaved as college students. I've subbed at rich schools (with kids driving up in Porsches) where I wanted to break a chair over the head of an entitled piece of shit who won't shut up.

Oh, and in some areas that are predominately Latino, I was surprised at how well behaved the kids were. Turns out, as a culture their parents would whip the shit out of them if they acted up in class. So it's not about national origin, either.

Most of the problems in education are about negligent parents.
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IronHamster · 56-60, M
I substitute taught for one semester, and taught on a provisional license for one semester. I am largely in agreement, as my experience from thirty years ago mirrors yours.

My biggest problem wasn't the inner city kids. It was the princes of wealthy parents to whom the administration bowed down to.

Dubya's "No Child Left Behind" initiative was horrible for kids. It allowed the troublemakers to stay, reducing efforts to help the most promising students succeed. Some kids, mostly troublemakers, are better off out of school. Let them reassess their lives, because maybe they can learn more outside school than they do in it. Formal education is great for some, but others need the School of Hard Knox to become successful.
Reason10 · 61-69, M
@IronHamster Agreed, as far as "no child left behind." Whatever well intentioned that nonsense was, it had the wrong effect on education.