Yes, SOME of the blame has go to to teachers. I've subbed for a teacher who was suspended for punching a student. I subbed for another who grabbed a student by the front of the shirt and lifted him up in anger. Teachers aren't perfect.
Thing is, all the degrees in the world do not prepare a person to TEACH. If you ask ANY teacher, he/she will tell you that the real teaching training begins the first time the candidate faces the classroom. If you see a teacher who has been on the job for more than ten years, that is a VALUABLE part of the system, because that person has had training that NO university can provide.
The other problem is, it is the teacher's job to TEACH, not manage a bunch of idiots who were never properly raised by their parents, who don't want to be there and who think nothing of disrupting the class.
And for a lot of you goose stepping NaziLibs, it's not a race thing.
I've subbed at many inner city black-ish schools were most of the student body was black, (one school in particular where the front office gave us a sheet outlining the fact that a lot of the boys were actually the man of the house. That actually happened.) This little black hoodlums were raised by THESE entitled thug parents.
By the same token I've subbed at some predominately white schools with almost a MIRROR IMAGE of the same misbehavior and lack of parental guidance. And the schools didn't always wind up in low income neighborhoods.
So it's NOT about race or color. Unlike racist liberals (yeah, I know, that's a redundancy) I am colorblind when it comes to education. I've subbed at one inner city elementary school where the kids (mostly black) were as well behaved as college students. I've subbed at rich schools (with kids driving up in Porsches) where I wanted to break a chair over the head of an entitled piece of shit who won't shut up.
Oh, and in some areas that are predominately Latino, I was surprised at how well behaved the kids were. Turns out, as a culture their parents would whip the shit out of them if they acted up in class. So it's not about national origin, either.
Most of the problems in education are about negligent parents.
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@Handfull1 I often get in trouble with fellow conservatives because they are all about parental choice up the yin yang, as well as blaming the liberal teachers for everything. My problem with parental choice it it assumes ALL parents out there actually give a rat's ass about their kids' education. I've discovered through experience that a LARGE percentage of parents out here don't give a rat's ass.
@Handfull1 This is where the discussion gets political. Yes, great minds like Candace Owens blame the absentee fathers for the problems of the black race, and of course it was the Democrat Party's policy of WELFARE that paid stupid teenager girls to download babies and lose the father. And teachers are usually on the receiving end of that nightmare.
@Handfull1 It still comes down to party politics. The left's WELFARE STATE created the broken up fatherless homes, which vomited the class disrupting little punks into the system. Even before the Democrat JIM CROW laws were overturned, black families were more intact. Blacks continue to suffer under Democrat policies, whether it was slavery, Jim Crow or the welfare state. But in education (notice, I'm swerving back to the topic of the discussion) we're well past the point where race matters that much. The WELFARE STATE is probably the biggest factor in the downfall of American public education. And because (predicted by anthropologists like Charles Murray) we now have an equally disastrous WHITE welfare class. So brats in school that disrupt class come in black and white. And it is a problem because teachers are supposed to TEACH, not play surrogate parents.
@Reason10 it’s never one reason nor one political side. I wish people could think for themselves and take each problem individually. Every answer brings up another problem. I hate when anyone thinks they know all the solutions!
@Handfull1 It's very human for one to believe he/she knows all the solutions. I make the case that the problem with education is mostly caused by Democrats because that party created the welfare state, which broke up families and put the disrupting animals in the classroom. I'm trying to find ONE single problem that can be traced back to Republicans. Maybe education suffered in the late 19 Century because Republicans outlawed slavery and suddenly colored people would have to be included in the mix. Certainly, racist Democrats who ALL believe blacks are inferior as a race would come to that conclusion. Thing is, I'm seeing the problem from almost the teacher's point of view. (Almost, because I'm not under the same pressure as a real teacher. A little shit acts out and I have the bastard removed and I don't have to face the parents. Stuff like that.) Their problems in the classroom come from animals who are from fatherless homes and the Democrat party is singularly responsible for that. I don't want to blame the teachers for the hand that has been dealt them. Unlike a lot of conservatives, I don't see all teachers as being too left wing and too lazy to do their jobs.
@Handfull1 Some people believe they have all the solutions. Some don't. One of the things the big companies maintain, when it comes to a college degree as the ante to get into the game, is the fact that a bachelor's degree means you don't know anything but can learn, and a Masters Degree means you had better know what you're doing. Hence the "all the solutions" origins, I suppose.
