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My prediction is scotus sends colorado decision back to states.

Overturning the decision clearly violates section 2, article 1 of the constitution that explicitly states that states are responsible selecting their electors.
walabby · 61-69, M
Courts seem very reluctant to kick Trump off the ballot, but now that it has started....?
If Trump stays on the ballot and actually gets enough electoral college votes to gain the presidency, there will be huge court cases to attempt to deny him that. After all, the 14th amendment says that one can't hold office. It says nothing about being on the ballot.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@walabby Can't hold office for doing what?
walabby · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 Insurrection... Giving aid and comfort to insurrectionists.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@walabby What insurrection? The one in 1861? That's the only one
Vin53 · M
"Can't wait for him to be stripped of his businesses, taken off the ballot in multiple states, and convicted of multiple felonies related to Jan 6th

At that point, I suspect his final act will be to try to rile his base into armed revolt at the mother of all MAGA rallies. Leading to his and a good many of his MAGA cap wearing followers deaths"

And the entire world shall rejoice
Ynotisay · M
I would typically immediately agree but this SC isn't like those in the past. We'll see.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Ynotisay but such a ruling would ignite future challenges to the Ec system
Ynotisay · M
@trollslayer We'll see. They've actually been pretty solid on rulings around Trump so far. But it's a 6-3 conservative majority. Three were appointed by Trump. From my understanding this boils down to if a President should have immunity while in office. Big picture, down the road thinking, makes a decision pretty clear. But I'm not sure that's where we're at with this court.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Ynotisay i expect roberts to be pretty objective here. And sometimes the 3 that trump appointed rule against him
Theyitis · 36-40, M
I don’t know what to predict, but it seems to me fwiw (I have never studied Constitutional Law) that you’re wrong. The Fourteenth Amendment applies to the whole country, states can’t choose to opt out of it or use a different interpretation of it. Seems to me that’s how it ought to work.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Theyitis good argument
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Theyitis i think that may draw into question the difference in eligibility to be in the ballot and eligibility to hold office
Yeah, it's pathetic, but true. The Republicans on the SCOTUS will probably overturn this. The Constitution really is worthless when Fascists are in power.
@sunsporter1649 Immigration goes against the Constitution?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@BohemianBoo Legal immigration is not prohibited by the United States Code of Regulations, but illegal immigration clearly is prohibited
@sunsporter1649 So what does that have to do with Biden? Is it that he hasn't deported all 12 million illegals?
Has Trump filed yet?

My guess is, they'll take the case and slow walk it, putting Trump back on the ballot, which is all the relief he really [i]needs[/i] at this point.

Down the road, I'm not sure. It's a huge call to make constitutionally, with enormous implications. My guess is, they'll overturn it, but I'm not sure how.
This has nothing to do with selecting electors and will almost certainly be overturned by SCOTUS
@trollslayer
This ruling is not about electors in any way shape or form.
It’s about whether or not Trump should be allowed to run for president on the state ballot.
When you step in the voting booth trumps name WILL be on the ballot if he’s the republican nominee for president.
Just like Bidens name will be listed as the democrat candidate.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Onestarlitnight wrong. The electors names are in the ballot, as that is who you are voting for. The candidate who the electors are pledged to is for voter convenience only.
@trollslayer
They are trying to keep Trump off of the republican primary ballot and they will fail, this will be overturned by SCOTUS and if trump wins the republican primary in Colorado and is selected as the nominee by the Republican Party his name will appear on the ballot in the general election in November.
Vin53 · M
"Everything I don't like is election interference! States' rights!"
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@sunsporter1649 and your proof this happens? And i am no talking about a few instances affecting a handful of votes…
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@trollslayer Then why are you so opposed to cleaning up voter registration rolls?
trollslayer · 46-50, M
How would they overturn this in such a way that still allows states the right to determine their own electors?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Since when do demonocrats follow The Constitution?

 
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